(PSN)j232000 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 it's simple, a lot of people got bought by the event's messed up mechanics, each time they said "I'm sorry Neffy, I will be back after this one" they lost 1 point on Nef's side... turns out they supported Alad 5 times and are currently with 1 point of support on Anyo, I'm assuming a lot of them will incline towards Alad now. That's the explanation I came up with for the fact that many times before that we had (50k cr Anyo vs 75k cr Alad) and Anyo still won, this time is different though. Disclaimer: I am not actually incriminating "hurr durr disgusting mercenaries", honestly it is very understandable why most people would side with better rewards, everybody needs potatoes and R5 cores in this grindy game... You may be right. As far as I'm concerned, the rational strategy has always been "Rare Cores or Nef unless you're already at 6+ Nef points; possibly take a potato or uncommon cores over credits if you're already at 6 or more; but always go Nef in credits versus credits.". If more people had been following those rules this round would have gone quickly too and we'd not have cheated ourselves out of two or three extra rounds and rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Dan_Aria Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) ´---´ I currently have 8 points on Anyo.. soon to be 9... I may have missed a couple of invasions tho.9.6 vs 6 now, let's see if it's true rewards are equal when points are equal or if the messed up mechanics for the event act up again.Anyo 20U5 coresAlad 50k cr...I support Anyo anyway.. but that's still messed up ´----´ Edited June 21, 2015 by (PS4)Dan_Aria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armazatel Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 either nefnation got off it's couch or the mercs are more swayed by cores than cash. nef's blowing alad away in round 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Konijnen-dans Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 50k credits (Neffy) vs. 25 R5 cores (Salad). Alad, pls. I bet you took all those R5 cores by doing defence IV and interception IV in the Void. Nef will be really mad if he finds out that you stepped in his sacred place. "Blasphemy!" I'm gonna support Nef btw, even though Alad has the cores, just for the credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Lord_Gremlin Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 As I said, event is rigged in such a way that the winner will be the one who gets support when rewards are identical. But what happens if it'll end in a tie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)gethinle12 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Hopefully we get both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Viggorrah Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Hopefully we get both Wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)gino1313 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I want the least amount of suffering, so mathematically I want Salad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)LIGHTNINGCOMBAT Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Neffy is who I want to win, and I hope enough of you feel that way to bring victory regardless of the Infested Fiend's bribery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Dan_Aria Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Neffy is who I want to win, and I hope enough of you feel that way to bring victory regardless of the Infested Fiend's bribery! o/ hellz yea Tenno! some of us may get drawn by rewards but when it comes down to equal rewards we shall GIVE UNTO THE VOID!! Let's hope Alad doesn't bring about any BS 25 R5 core moves while the points are equal or right before the event ends! We need more support on Anyo guys!! -A Neffy supporter in all invasions he participated. The void be the word.. and the word, be profit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)General_Favel Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I'm running nef to try n get Vermilion storm off that bombard. Total eclipse pilfering swarm with a Nekros 35/3 per conflict. Nothing. I'm running out of time n ppl r buyin for 600-1000 P. I want in on that. U guys r right. The event IS rigged. But not in favor of nef or alad5. Its rigged in the favor of Vermilion storm droprate. The grind is real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)R-Zab__v2 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I'm very curious what happens when the PS4 crowd gets the Dera Vandal and realizes it is equal to the Karak Wraith. *evil laugh* And if you later on put out an event where Alad somewhat cures himself and tries to repay the tenno for their help (in a positive way as there is nobody else in the Origin system at this point who he could call a friend) for those who didn't let Alad rot I would be definitely rolling on the floor laughing. *even more evil laughter* Sounds like your butthurt about the karak and want nobody to enjoy a weapon you didn't get. Your evil laughter makes you sound 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Perpetual_Legend Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) What I don't understand, is that, nef lost like 5-6 events in a row.. Wouldn't you think that after losing a few rounds he would have picked his game up and offered a little something more to get back the loyalty he was obviously losing?.. Its supply and demand.. If you were losing workers to another company because they paid better, wouldn't you think you'd offer a little more to keep people from leaving... It's hard not to feel biased when salad 5 makes a comeback, and nef's offering just stays the same... Edited June 22, 2015 by (PS4)Perpetual_Legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)General_Favel Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 NICE LEADERBOARDS FINALLY RESET!!!!!!!! its like a holiday for me. TY Drew i was worried it wouldnt ever happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Filthy113 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Currently it's Nef 9 - Alad 8. Nef will take the lead after this current conflict ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Silverback73 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) When Alad was losing badly, the rewards became ridiculously weighted in his favor. Players started swinging the pendulum for maximum rewards. I just hope the "choice" is real this time vs predetermined EoB. They could easily weight rewards for Alad at the end, and use it as justification for a last minute upset of Neffy, even if, in reality, the PS4 community votes otherwise. We will see. Oh, and New Tyl Regor is hilarious. Between using scalpels on danglers and stick-poking jellyfish, he is my new favorite villain. Edited June 23, 2015 by (PS4)Silverback73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Quo_Tee Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 When Alad was losing badly, the rewards became ridiculously weighted in his favor. Players started swinging the pendulum for maximum rewards. I just hope the "choice" is real this time vs predetermined EoB. They could easily weight rewards for Alad at the end, and use it as justification for a last minute upset of Neffy, even if, in reality, the PS4 community votes otherwise. We will see. Oh, and New Tyl Regor is hilarious. Between using scalpels on danglers and stick-poking jellyfish, he is my new favorite villain. Or the PS4 community are mercenaries fighting for scraps and Alad would get a cheap win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)MakoPriest Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 When Alad was losing badly, the rewards became ridiculously weighted in his favor. Players started swinging the pendulum for maximum rewards. I just hope the "choice" is real this time vs predetermined EoB. They could easily weight rewards for Alad at the end, and use it as justification for a last minute upset of Neffy, even if, in reality, the PS4 community votes otherwise. We will see. Oh, and New Tyl Regor is hilarious. Between using scalpels on danglers and stick-poking jellyfish, he is my new favorite villain. I would stop playing warframe if they rigged the event last second. EoB was pretty bad i remember everyone being pretty upset over the scripted loss of relays and all the wasted resources for no real reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Silverback73 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Or the PS4 community are mercenaries fighting for scraps and Alad would get a cheap winThe problem is that EoB planted the seeds of doubt. There is an obvious choice here between 2 weapons.Logic tells us that rewards heavily weight towards the loser until the sides are equal. Taken a step further, it means that the best Alad can do is tie the Nef/Dera supporters as shown by the initial win streak. All things being equal, Nef wins on Ps4. Unless Nef and Alad are tied during the last 12 hour alert, and suddenly rewards heavily weight in favor of Alad or Alad wins with equal rewards. If that happens, many will feel that: 1. DE influenced the outcome in favor of Alad 2. DE predetermined the outcome, and it was another artificial mechanic giving the illusion of choice. 3. Until a platform presents a different outcome, many will remain unconvinced but play the game they love anyway. 4. Meh, I got $$$, cores, cats, and a new gun. SWEET ;). Edited June 23, 2015 by (PS4)Silverback73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malacronious Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Unless Nef and Alad are tied during the last 12 hour alert, and suddenly rewards heavily weight in favor of Alad or Alad wins with equal rewards. If that happens, many will feel that: 1. DE influenced the outcome in favor of Alad I am sorry but anyone who thinks that DE will influence the outcome is crazy and probably too mistrusting. Its also completely delusional to think that just because something has not gone in your favour that DE must have somehow rigged it that way because obviously they are out to wreck your life. There are two choices. Whatever the outcome is has absolutely nothing to do with the event being rigged by DE, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)jFresh215 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Does anyone have the current score? I'm at work and can't check. Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Gasawock Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I am sorry but anyone who thinks that DE will influence the outcome is crazy and probably too mistrusting. Its also completely delusional to think that just because something has not gone in your favour that DE must have somehow rigged it that way because obviously they are out to wreck your life. There are two choices. Whatever the outcome is has absolutely nothing to do with the event being rigged by DE, period. at one point in the event the rewards were 50-50k for both and nef went from winning at 54% to losing at 46% and then rapidly losing more faster then it should be possible, so there's that. Does anyone have the current score? I'm at work and can't check. Thank you in advance. 11-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Gasawock Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 NEFFY has to win next 4-5 as well guys, otherwise we can't call them out if they rig it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Quo_Tee Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Well the score looks like it'll be 12-9 now Be prepeared for Alad to give another potato, but at least when they both offer 50k creds, the conflict lasts the whole 12 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Silverback73 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) I am sorry but anyone who thinks that DE will influence the outcome is crazy and probably too mistrusting. Its also completely delusional to think that just because something has not gone in your favour that DE must have somehow rigged it that way because obviously they are out to wreck your life. There are two choices. Whatever the outcome is has absolutely nothing to do with the event being rigged by DE, period.Did you play Eyes of Blight? 3 platforms, and all had the same number of relays survive. I remember hammering Famorians on certain planets with clan mates, determined that the PS4 players would save more...and the numbers barely moved. DE was called out on it being scripted, and never really responded. Don't get me wrong, it had great rewards.It is not delusional to be cynical. The strategy for TUBEMEN was to weight the rewards for the current loser until the rewards were so disproportionate that players flipped. That's a good thing because it creates a game within the game to keep interest high until the end with awesome rewards and a tight race. However, at any point where rewards are equal and the score tied, the PS4 community has repeatedly chosen Neffy and the Dera by a wide margin. Even the Devs have called the Nef support interesting. Go look at the score history and how rewards shifted in favor of Alad when Nef was winning 6-0. I love the game and DE, but if you go study how EoB unfolded, calling out people that are cynical/have a certain amount of doubt as delusional suggests straight-up homerism. Edited June 23, 2015 by (PS4)Silverback73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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