Should I Get A 2Nd Arcane Trickery For Ash?

[Dragazer]

Atm I have an arcane trickery maxed on my helm, I'm wondering if it's worth to get another arcane trickery on my syandana for the 20% chance to proc. I was thinking of arcane strike, but I feel my berserker dragon nikana is fast enough.

[DietEbolaCola]

Any reason for getting invisibility that overrides existing invisibility on a frame with invisibility as a power already?

[(PSN)CheaterMcCheat]

Any reason for getting invisibility that overrides existing invisibility on a frame with invisibility as a power already?

Long invisibility without building duration.

[(XBOX)LexaHex]

I'm planning to have to have two trickery arcanes on my ash p,

 

Also its not 20% chance its about 18%, your invisibility time stays at 20 secs but you have 2 10% chances roll at finishers, basically you got an 18% chance one of them will proc

[rechot]

Any reason for getting invisibility that overrides existing invisibility on a frame with invisibility as a power already?

SO YOU ARE FOREVER INVISIBLE , but serously i have a max arcane trickery and almost every bladestorm it procs so i would say no.

 

ash procs it a lot and if you dont proc it during a bladestorm you can just press 2

[Tsoe]

Cause he heard Ash love invisibility

 

so he wanted to add a bit of invisibility into ash invisibility

Edited July 13, 2015 by Tsoe

[(XBOX)LexaHex]

Any reason for getting invisibility that overrides existing invisibility on a frame with invisibility as a power already?

Long invisibility without building duration.

 

Pretty much, If I were to go for a power/efficiency build, arcane trickery would be an awesome substitute for smoke bomb

Edited July 13, 2015 by (XB1)LexaHex488

[AsahiOka]

If you have bad luck like me, maxed trickery, it procs everytime except when a nullifier spawns... yeah, make a second trickery. If it procs really well keep only 1.

[Dragazer]

Any reason for getting invisibility that overrides existing invisibility on a frame with invisibility as a power already?

Arcane trickery invisibility ignores nullifier bubble and has a static 20 second duration and I think It might ignore dispels from stalker and jumping into pits

[Dillon_J]

That is a really silly thing to put on a frame that can go invisible naturally.  To me Arcane trickery is more suiting to Valkyr or Excal.

Edited July 13, 2015 by Dillon_J

[(PSN)bLaiiSe_go_brrr]

Yeah, make a second one. I have 2 on him and it procs like 8/10 times when there are enough enemies. You can also proc it with teleport which is good. :)

That is a really silly thing to put on a frame that can go invisible naturally. To me Arcane trickery is more suiting to Valkyr or Excal.

Nooooope

[Dillon_J]

Nooooope

uh yes. smoke screen is vastly superior than arcane trickery invisibility. Smoke screen can make your whole team invisible with the aug, you stun enemies on initial use and melee bonus damage.

[Dragazer]

uh yes. smoke screen is vastly superior than arcane trickery invisibility. Smoke screen can make your whole team invisible with the aug, you stun enemies on initial use and melee bonus damage.

And then the nullifiers show up. Trickery ignores nullifiers and has 20 sec static duration.

Edited July 13, 2015 by Dragazer

[Dillon_J]

And then the nullifiers show up.

are smart player isnt reckless enough to fall victim to nullifiers.

[Dragazer]

are smart player isnt reckless enough to fall victim to nullifiers.

Trickery allows for quick disposal of nullifiers, just jump in and kill them while still invisibile instead of shooting the bubble

[Dillon_J]

Trickery allows for quick disposal of nullifiers, just jump in and kill them while still invisibile instead of shooting the bubble

one to his own i guess. I'd rather use a different arcane on ash.

[Scytze]

uh yes. smoke screen is vastly superior than arcane trickery invisibility. Smoke screen can make your whole team invisible with the aug, you stun enemies on initial use and melee bonus damage.

Also with Trickery you dont need to build for duration and just go with power strenght.

[ChloeSakuna]

Yo dawg, I heard you need invisibility for your invisibility.

[Dillon_J]

Yes whoopy-do, you wanna use another one, however don't come here trying to prove your better then everyone else, you'll just get reported.

uh rude, i never said anything of that nature im just expressing my opinion.

[Dillon_J]

And you call me rude?, sorry but you should look at your own attitude first, I do apologize if I sounded aggressive, but really, the way you worded what you said, looked very wrong, but hay, everyone else did it so.

 

Meh, don't worry about it. 

Just how i talk. i can see how people could take it wrong all good man.

[(PSN)TwelvGaugeApostl]

You girls are too sensitive, get over your silly feelings

[(PSN)Sinatala-30]

Hi Guys, I have two questions:  1-Will the Arcane Trickery be activate on smoke screen, or it's only activated on blade storm?

 

2- Does it have the same melee damage bonus effect like smoke screen? 

 

I'll appreciate if you please let me know, cheers

[Darzk]

Hi Guys, I have two questions:  1-Will the Arcane Trickery be activate on smoke screen, or it's only activated on blade storm?

 

2- Does it have the same melee damage bonus effect like smoke screen? 

 

I'll appreciate if you please let me know, cheers

1) Uh, no. Unless you stealth-execute someone under the effect of SS? :D Same thing with Teleport, the ability itself doesn't trigger it, the counter-attack afterwards does.

2) Yes

 

 

uh yes. smoke screen is vastly superior than arcane trickery invisibility.

A typical Str/Eff build has 12.5% duration, making SS last only 1 second. Literally ONE second. If you want SS to be useful you need to mod in duration, which means 2-3 frame slots and possibly a range reduction. Modding -duration allows you to use SS primarily for the stagger, too, opening up other options (CC Ash? lol).

 

 

OP: I'd say it's not needed, but in a way it's personal preference. With a single maxxed Trickery the enhancement procs enough for me, but you can increase the chances by installing another. I can't think of anything off the top of my head that would be better - maybe strike.

[aegondark]

Any reason for getting invisibility that overrides existing invisibility on a frame with invisibility as a power already?

 

1- Nullifiers cannot dispel trickery invisibility

 

2- The same occurs with stalker...

 

 

About the main topic...If you have 2 maxed trickerys then you have two chances for activating this. 1 finisher = rng rolls twice with 18% of activation chance for each roll...

[(PSN)CoolD2108]

Not on a stealth build. Definitly on a strength build.

[S0V3REiGN]

You can proc it by teleporting to an enemy and finishing them too. Arcane trickery is easily the best arcane for Ash. I have one full set and 2 away from a 2nd set for his helmet. For those saying "Yo dawg, I heard you like invisibility with your invisibility" don't understand that you can just completely ignore duration (Max Fleeting Expertise and Transient Fortitude) and still have a 20 second invisibility duration. Go ahead and try to mod Ash to have 20 seconds of invisibility and tell me how many mods you need give up just to get that much. I will just sit here with my 175% efficiency, 200+% power strength and 20 second invisibility duration that is not even affected by nullifiers.

Edited July 15, 2015 by S0V3REiGN