WhisperByte Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) I'm pretty sure that's what DC thought when they voted for Necromancer concept... And yet we got a damn desecrate bot. Fun fact: Bonedaddy's #2 was supposed to be Fear Totem. He was supposed to summon a totem that got enemies around it scared. They kinda scrapped the idea before the release. Also I'm 83% sure that his #3 wasn't supposed to be Desecrate but something else. Just can't remember what it was Edited September 6, 2015 by WhisperByte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathemagics Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Engineer one that summons robots or/and can use multiple sentinels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 oh shoot ill check it out then ! Its archived now, but I still want to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightsmith Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Its unlikely to happen in a pur summoner fashion. but the idea of differing things with different abilities is a possibility. A summoner is off imo, because we have specters. But if you summon an object (I think Cubit like things from Lineage) that alters your powers based on which you choose. The issue would be a possible of 4 different summons. which means 4 different skill sets. total of 12 powers (ignoring 1 slot each for the summon cancel) basically double Equinox. Probably double the parts to build too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
low1991 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 The issue would be a possible of 4 different summons. which means 4 different skill sets. total of 12 powers (ignoring 1 slot each for the summon cancel) basically double Equinox. Probably double the parts to build too. First: we can have a frame with 4 different type of summons. Second: we have each individual frame suited/ fitted per each summons a longs with their skill set. Third: *i will think of one* Not all has to be given to a single frame. (looking at Equinox), this is DE' chances to increase the frame counts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Akuma_Asura_ Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 Its unlikely to happen in a pur summoner fashion. but the idea of differing things with different abilities is a possibility. A summoner is off imo, because we have specters. But if you summon an object (I think Cubit like things from Lineage) that alters your powers based on which you choose. The issue would be a possible of 4 different summons. which means 4 different skill sets. total of 12 powers (ignoring 1 slot each for the summon cancel) basically double Equinox. Probably double the parts to build too. Why would each summon have more then one power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightsmith Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) Why would each summon have more then one power I was imagining it like a new set of skills for each, similar to Equinox. I'm not sure how you would control the summon otherwise, If you summon something it would need to replace a skill, at minimum 1 to cancel the summon and 1 for each power the summon had. If each summon only had 1 power it would be less powers I guess. First: we can have a frame with 4 different type of summons. Second: we have each individual frame suited/ fitted per each summons a longs with their skill set. Third: *i will think of one* Not all has to be given to a single frame. (looking at Equinox), this is DE' chances to increase the frame counts! Guess I should have clarified the issue. The issue would be DE doing all that work for one. They mentioned with the discussion about the next frame that it won't be as complex as the past few (Chroma and Equinox) and be straight forward like most other frames. I also speak from a business perspective, 1 frame with variety means more work for the same relative result. Possibilities I see are: 1. My original where you summon and each has it's own powers (Equinox) 2. You summon and each power is pretty much the same but different element or something (Chroma) 3. Your single summon skill is based on your build or appearance (Chroma) Option 1 is where there would be a lot of work involved, balance, etc. Option 2 would be much less work but would have little difference from Chroma other than being able to alter on the mission rather than via energy color before the mission, option 3 would make it even more like Chroma and less impressive. Edited September 7, 2015 by Lightsmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Really I think it will be one or the other when DE makes one, in fact one of the 4 we know they are working on MIGHT be is a Summoner. Here are the three most likely in my book. Beastlord summon animals and they fight for him. Can command enemy drahk and catbrows, and ferals as well as sharks abd skates, and birds when they are released. Elementalist summons void-elementals that have powers based on their mixup. The most versitile probably. Techmage summons constucts that fight for him, a Tenno Tech of sorts but with some unique tricks. Can hijack corpus and orokin machines, turrets and doors. All in all I am for this idea, anyone who have had spectres and friendly Moas will be into it, I am a confessed spectre.addict in Solo now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 A summoner Frame was one of my earliest ideas and wants: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/231210-warframe-concept-magus-summoner-warframe-supportdamage-hybrid-update-3142015/ I really want it. I'm big on the idea of having minions. Yeah you got the elementalsummoner down pretty good in that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
low1991 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) Guess I should have clarified the issue. The issue would be DE doing all that work for one. They mentioned with the discussion about the next frame that it won't be as complex as the past few (Chroma and Equinox) and be straight forward like most other frames. I also speak from a business perspective, 1 frame with variety means more work for the same relative result. Possibilities I see are: 1. My original where you summon and each has it's own powers (Equinox) 2. You summon and each power is pretty much the same but different element or something (Chroma) 3. Your single summon skill is based on your build or appearance (Chroma) Just to place both of us in the same paper, To me: a summon is similar to Nekros' #4. or the likes. and NOT similar or equal to equinox. Meaning, A single frame can summon 4 different summons (4 different re-skinned specter if u like) or 4 different frame each more fitted/suitted per summons for max control etc (no example) Edited September 7, 2015 by low1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavelord Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 that is why my Nekros carries charger specters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenzoZero Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Why wait till mission fails? Just go right ahead and use it. Aaaaaaand I just realized Stalker is the Decade frame. but stalker isn't pink and badass as decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissFairy Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I want a summoner frame. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegpoidBeetle Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 but stalker isn't pink and badass as decade Well I'll know what to do when DE decides to rework him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruelCrow Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 It'd have to be something unique to really work well though. We already have Specters, both Tenno and for various enemies (Eximus as well, so they do provide some buffs), Kubrows, Sentinels, Shadows from Nekros, and "minion" style units that Nyx can mind control. So whatever it summons, it has to be able to compete with all of these, while also have enough diversity in power to do more than just summon 4 different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Akuma_Asura_ Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 It'd have to be something unique to really work well though. We already have Specters, both Tenno and for various enemies (Eximus as well, so they do provide some buffs), Kubrows, Sentinels, Shadows from Nekros, and "minion" style units that Nyx can mind control. So whatever it summons, it has to be able to compete with all of these, while also have enough diversity in power to do more than just summon 4 different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)PillarOfWar Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I thought it was Nekros.Me too. And it sounds too close to Nekros. But the bacon frame may be a summoner. Most likely. Pretty sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
low1991 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Me want summoner frame where i can summon puppets! Also while at that, give me a turret frame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComCray Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Summoner frame.. interestring.... howsabout we have it summon Warframes..?Female version:1. summon mini-trinity for N period. trinity will cast miniature version of "Blessing" every time she picks up energy ball2. summon mini-saryn for N period. saryn will cast miniature version of "Miasma" every time she picks up energy ball3. summon mini-nyx for N period, nyx will cast mini-chaos every time she picks up energy ball4. summon mini nova for N period, nova will cast mini-Molecular Prime every time she picks up energy ballMale version (like above, because I'm a lazy cow):1. oberon, casts Renewal 2. volt, casts speed 3. rhino, casts roar 4. nekros, casts desecrateAll powers are influenced by:duration: length of mini-frame existance (duh)range: range of mini caster-effectstrength: durabillity of mini frameTeam synergy - if there is a frame in the team that is the same as the one that is cast, the mini-frame will be a copy of the larger frame in : shield, armor, health, strength and duration mods (looks?)If there are more of the same, miniframe will copy the one that is closest to the summoner.Only one miniframe-per-summoner can be deployed at any given time. Having a team of four summoners should be interesting...edit: miniframe will have braton, skana and lato.. unless team synergy kicks in, then it will use whatever the copied frame is using at the moment of casting... Edited September 8, 2015 by ComCray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComCray Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Me too. And it sounds too close to Nekros. But the bacon frame may be a summoner. Most likely. Pretty sure. I thought Bacon frame was a brawler..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallordD Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 This is my old idea for a summoner based frame. https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/433844-impersia-the-summoner/ Pretty outlandish and I didn't really take it too far past my first ideas since it didn't get much attention, but hey, it's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
low1991 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Female version: 1. summon mini-trinity for N period. trinity will cast miniature version of "Blessing" every time she picks up energy ball 2. summon mini-saryn for N period. saryn will cast miniature version of "Miasma" every time she picks up energy ball 3. summon mini-nyx for N period, nyx will cast mini-chaos every time she picks up energy ball 4. summon mini nova for N period, nova will cast mini-Molecular Prime every time she picks up energy ball Male version (like above, because I'm a lazy cow): 1. oberon, casts Renewal 2. volt, casts speed 3. rhino, casts roar 4. nekros, casts desecrate We already have specters for the stated above ideas. What we want is something non-warframe-like summons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)LCGx_Leader Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Nekros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComCray Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 We already have specters for the stated above ideas. Naah, not the specters.. I was thinking more tiny guys like the noggles you can put in your liset... :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
low1991 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Naah, not the specters.. I was thinking more tiny guys like the noggles you can put in your liset... :p Doubt will happen. If this whole summoner thing happens (YAY! for me), DE will mostly dis the use of small frames as the appearance of summons. So called there's a human in each suit/frame theory. So something fantasy, robotic, or mystical being should be alright. If this whole thing happen, i can see the light of a turret frame (YAY again for me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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