Archenius Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 nah man loki was jelluse when he found out that Mesa and Ash had the wohoo! time and decided to tell the player to say loki master race since loki found out that the baby that had grown up years later was actually more beneficial to other people while loki is mostly himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PnOyLeeT Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 some people like to slow it down a bit u know that rip line bolt is promising tho ... line it up .. shot it with rip line and make a grineer shish kabob .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thural Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 LOKI PRIME MUSTARD RICE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonspartan1 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 incase u guys didnt look carefully when she was invisible her steath ability is channeling so she can stay invisible for a very long time with a good duration and efficency build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qynchou Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Shouldnt call it archer frame when it has barely anything to do with bows. Its just a gimped version of a stealth frame. I mean, pickpocketing, really? Nekros 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IANOBW Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Shouldnt call it archer frame when it has barely anything to do with bows. Its just a gimped version of a stealth frame. I mean, pickpocketing, really? Nekros 2.0. Bait, is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodDarius Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Loki is not a stealth frame, he's a trickster. He uses illusion and misguidance to fool his enemies and have the upper hand, invisibility is just one of aces in the hole he can use. Ivara on the other hand uses a more indirect approach, striking from afar unseen or avoiding fight at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)OMGITSNUKERXD Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The kavats will still be able too see you in stealth mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qynchou Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Bait, is that you? Tell me what defines that frame as an archer other than the 4th ability which IIRC wasnt even shown in the last devstream. Tell me what does her 1,2,3 abilities have to do with archery or bows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaruis Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IANOBW Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Tell me what defines that frame as an archer other than the 4th ability which IIRC wasnt even shown in the last devstream. Tell me what does her 1,2,3 abilities have to do with archery or bows. Her 1st ability is a selection of 4 different arrow types - Sleep, Alarming, Invisibility and Zipline. Arrows. You know, things that are shot from bows. It's not like all of Mesa's abilities involve her guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) +1 post 733 to go. Edited November 29, 2015 by Kao-Snake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enno69 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) I don't mean to sound offensive but she doesn't seem like she will be very useful unless stealth get a complete rework... And even then, interception, defense, stuff like that ? I mean this is Warframe, not Splinter Cell. Noise shot, track shot, controlling a projectile, cloaking arrow, zipline, pfui gimmicks ! Invisibility yes but we already have three frames who can cloak more easily, and fight as well, unlike her. I bet nobody will use her ziplines. Can't find a reason why they would be useful, especially if they disable the use of abilities like the current ones do. All of her abilities look somewhat cool on paper but don't fit the flow of the game, imo, so they will be ignored by most. But, we shall wait and see. Edited November 29, 2015 by Enno69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0ulre4per Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 and then there is me, enjoying ash smokebomb stun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IANOBW Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I bet nobody will use her ziplines. Can't find a reason why they would be useful For spy missions, they will be very usefull. Especially the corpus ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enno69 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 For spy missions, they will be very usefull. Especially the corpus ones. True indeed; but then those will need to be reworked asap. Make them more challenging (for ex, killing everything prior to entering the vault gives you a penalty) and more rewarding, with more complex mechanics that involve both the player's skills and stealth abilities like the zipline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShikiRen Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I don't mean to sound offensive but she doesn't seem like she will be very useful unless stealth get a complete rework... And even then, interception, defense, stuff like that ? I mean this is Warframe, not Splinter Cell. Noise shot, track shot, controlling a projectile, cloaking arrow, zipline, pfui gimmicks ! Invisibility yes but we already have three frames who can cloak more easily, and fight as well, unlike her. I bet nobody will use her ziplines. Can't find a reason why they would be useful, especially if they disable the use of abilities like the current ones do. All of her abilities look somewhat cool on paper but don't fit the flow of the game, imo, so they will be ignored by most. But, we shall wait and see. Being able to allow for an invisible capture in interception for the whole team from anywhere on the map is kinda nice (stealth arrow ; if no line of sight + controlling projectiles). I'm guessing the range of the arrow-effects is affected by power range, and Rebecca used a max duration min range build, so the AE of the sleep-arrow should be quite decent if modded for range (even +/- range) so there is CC; A weapon-power is always nice to kill stuff with, and i remember Rebecca saying it fires a fan of arrows so you should be able to kill groups with it. And an invis glasscannon frame can also be quite funny and effective (her special arrows apparently stick to allies so you can stick one on eg. your Ember and she carries the invis-field around with her). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aklyon Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Loki complains about newframe being cooler than him at stealth, none surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archenius Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Tell me what defines that frame as an archer other than the 4th ability which IIRC wasnt even shown in the last devstream. Tell me what does her 1,2,3 abilities have to do with archery or bows. tell me what kind of prenium void drugs did you eat? because you have to be not paying attention if you think that her first ability doesn't have to do with arrows then you must be in an allternate dimension were arrows have to do with solar flares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enno69 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 tell me what kind of prenium void drugs did you eat? because you have to be not paying attention if you think that her first ability doesn't have to do with arrows then you must be in an allternate dimension were arrows have to do with solar flares What he/she possibly meant is that the bow could be removed in this ability and nothing would change, she could throw a zipline by hand, cloak automatically, throw a noise decoy etc... Bow are meant to kill things and her special arrows feel weird. But maybe that's not what he/she wanted to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iquaniqua Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 but can loki make teammates inviz and control tonkor shots? i think not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kappa64 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Read the thread title and immediately knew what it was going to contain. On a serious note, if Ivara can run spy missions faster than Loki can cheese them, then I'm sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toppien Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) -Can make other invisible, likely including herself (hit yourself with your arrow). AoE Invis -Can group enemies together then stun said group -Pickpocketting -Ziplines Loki is not the best stealth frame anymore. ivara sounds so much like...elder scrolls build and thats a good thing Edited November 30, 2015 by Toppien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LavenderLaser Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 incase u guys didnt look carefully when she was invisible her steath ability is channeling so she can stay invisible for a very long time with a good duration and efficency build. It also doesn't drain when she's standing still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonspartan1 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It also doesn't drain when she's standing still. yep. you could solo certain missions just steathing with her. ivara best steath frame (bring it on loki fanboys) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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