dany2945 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Is not fun when you do 2x def and 1 ext to get 25R5 cores you can get the same loot from a level 30 excavation in less time is not worth it at all and also the mastery rank should be higher because no one likes some level 20 volt with mk1 braton mk1 bo and lato in a level 90-100 def the operator AI is bad enough. (sorry for my bad English) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kthal Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Sortie rewards were just changed to lessen the excess of duplicates. If you get a non-repeatable reward in a Sortie, the ones with the checkboxes next to them, if you get that reward again, it will be replaced with 25 or 50 R5 cores, a useful reward instead of a junk reward. Incidentally, 25 cores works out as 15pl minimum if you are inclined to sell them, which is a bit more than the sell price of the equivalent rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceColdHawk Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 More like better remove frame and weapon parts from sorties. They got nothing to search in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)DevourMundus Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I've gotten a 25 fusion core pack 3 times i don't mind it. Just because a reward isn't great for you doesn't mean it shouldn't be there. Also frames have to be maxed rank to be in sorties missions.Dont like pick up games make your own squad or do them solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faulcun Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 well, statements have been made that excavations are being looked at because of how fast rewards can be obtained compared to other game modes. So if they end up being changed to match survivals and defenses..... you might wish you hadnt made this suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceColdHawk Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 well, statements have been made that excavations are being looked at because of how fast rewards can be obtained compared to other game modes. So if they end up being changed to match survivals and defenses..... you might wish you hadnt made this suggestion. In the latest devstream they have said they ain't gonna touch excavations for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu-hayabusa1 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 maybe if they make it 250R5 cores it will become relevant, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 50 would be nicer but 25 isn't that bad. Rather that that yet another part I don't need or a lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dicht.ThanksFrost- Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 How about no? I like my cores, getting cores is good, I can max mods. Plus endgame players can get more cores now by beating harder stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH4D4R Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Disagree with this suggestion completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fi-le Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) REMOVE R5 FROM SORTIE REWARDS we can find R5 EVERYWHERE, in EVERY mission with less effort and first of all less TIME so really would love if that R5 were removed from sorties missions Edited February 6, 2016 by Fi-le Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom_Bunny Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) hahahahaha, and as we see here DE's fix for people complaining about lenses has just made people complain about something else. People probably will only stop complaining after they get the prize they want. So what is left? I don't know let's compare the two. Lenses: Sells for a higher price than R5 cores on trade, and you can put them on anything in your arsenal. They stop becoming useful after you've completed the focus system.....in 4 years. Making lenses appear only once in sorties drags out the time it takes to level the focus system. R5 Cores: Sells for minimal plat but sells in higher quantities, and they can be fused with any mod. They stop being useful when you decide you've got all the mods you need. Removing cores from sorties does nothing because we can get them anywhere. So I'd say revert the once-a-day change for lenses and replace the remaining R5 core packs with various parts from the other guns, dera vandel and karak wraith for example Edited February 6, 2016 by Postal_pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kthal Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Lenses: Sells for a higher price than R5 cores on trade, and you can put them on anything in your arsenal. They stop becoming useful after you've completed the focus system.....in 4 years. Making lenses appear only once in sorties drags out the time it takes to level the focus system. Lenses sell for 5-10pl. Cores sell for (low) 0.6pl each. 25 cores is 15pl, 50 cores is 30pl. As for the way the rewards work, there is only a small chance of cores initially, and it scales up as you receive more non-repeatable rewards. On the first Sortie in a season, you have a mere 7.72% chance of receiving R5 cores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dany2945 Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 we can find R5 EVERYWHERE, in EVERY mission with less effort and first of all less TIME so really would love if that R5 were removed from sorties missions That is my point we can find R5 EVERYWHERE, at least if you give us R5 give us 50 or 75 at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DeathDro Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I agree 25 is too low. I think at least 50 is okay. I could get 25 R5 out of 1 excavation, doesn't make sense to do 3 missions for what I could've gotten from 1 easier mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dany2945 Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share Posted February 7, 2016 just got 25 R5 again just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeGaRe Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I guess remove Nezha from the rewards list, nobody is even want him anymore.. or probably new players already got him idk, he's not selling and just sitting there on my inventory just to oblige people that haven't got him and I would be able to supply... so I guess, remove him :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dany2945 Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share Posted February 7, 2016 I guess remove Nezha from the rewards list, nobody is even want him anymore.. or probably new players already got him idk, he's not selling and just sitting there on my inventory just to oblige people that haven't got him and I would be able to supply... so I guess, remove him :3 good idea the reward table is flooded with useless things like nezha,r5,exilus,event weapons (for me at least) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoanoS Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 My little face when I get cores: I have nearly 1100 of R5s. Enough is enough. All for removing 25 core reward form the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kthal Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I have nearly 1100 of R5s. Enough is enough. All for removing 25 core reward form the table. And I have 1346, and still need more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoanoS Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 This theory might have something to do with the amount of cores we start getting towards end of season: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/605146-sortie-logic-reducing-reward-table/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runtowin Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I disagree. Core is the only reason I do sortie. I don't need Len, Strun Wraith, Karak Wraith, Dera Vandal, Nezha, Exilus Adapter, Orokin Catalyst BP,... because I already have them. To each of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoanoS Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Runtowin, if you want cores then you are much better off running excavations. You get them quicker than from a sortie too. Cores also drop from common enemies all the time. And I also already have nezha, exilus, dera, karak and strun as well (most from their original events). But at least the parts can be traded over to someone who needs them. Sure, they are a disappointment but at least I can give or sell them off to someone who needs to complete their set. I personally don't want cores. They make me feel like I wasted my time carrying a bunch clueless and useless noobs trough 3 high level missions. My time would have been better spent running void missions or farming materials in a survival or an excavation. I can not possibly imagine what someone would need that many cores for. Because they surely aren't necessary for leveling mods either. Most of my 10 rank mods have been maxed by fusing duplicates and excess mods of matching polarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kthal Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I can not possibly imagine what someone would need that many cores for. Because they surely aren't necessary for leveling mods either. Most of my 10 rank mods have been maxed by fusing duplicates and excess mods of matching polarity. There are 24 (soon to be 26) Primed mods in the game requiring 528 R5 Cores each. There are 16 rare 10-rank mods in the game requiring 396 R5 Cores each. That's 19008 R5 cores for just those mods. Admittedly, a chunk can be done through duplicates, but that is still a massive amount of fusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoanoS Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 That's 19008 R5 cores for just those mods. Admittedly, a chunk can be done through duplicates, but that is still a massive amount of fusion. And how exactly will 25 cores as a reward from potentially 2 hours or more of suffering trough public games and fail-squads with up to lvl 100 enemies be adequate? Or, more precisely, how do those 25 cores compare to that number of cores you'd need? Basically they have no effect whatsoever. Like gnat's piss in an ocean. Allow me to put the quality of this "reward" in perspective for you: You can easily farm 25 cores out of an excavation in 20 minutes if you are lucky. 30 if you aren't. And on top of that you get tons of Cryotic and lots of rare mods such as stances. All this for literally next to no effort, even solo if you have half-decent gear and at least some skill. Or just plain dumb luck. Or run 5 T4 captures which takes 10 minutes (if you have got the keys). Maybe now you understand why people would like to get something nice that can't be obtained in other ways as their sortie reward, rather than a very small amount of VERY common drop item. I don't mean to sound rude, but it should not take a genius to see how insignificant 25 or even 50 cores really are in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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