(PSN)Doctor-Blitz- Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I living far from Canada so I couldn't join Tennocon. Please make sure that DE is aware about the discussions on the forums caused by the new game mechanics, changes, Nullifiers etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDar1o Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 1 hour ago, (PS4)Doctor-Blitz- said: -Snip- Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyBone Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 This is a really good idea. At least ask them about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5HV3N Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 And think for a second about how vault was supposed to stop existing in starchart 3.0 before you swipe that credit card to buy merch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightElve Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, MrDar1o said: Seriously? Yap! a Crisis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajochi Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) What if I told you, there is no crisis. it's just a very small and vocal group of people that hate anything that has to do with change. Also, I'm sure the devs are aware of what's going on in the forums. The last couple of hotfixes helped ease some of the issues. Plus, it has only been a single day since the update went live. Give it time, people generally calm down after a while anyways and the real feedback (ones that have actual thought put into them) comes up. And it's a good idea to ask directly at Tennocon, but I urge people to be respectful when they ask their questions. IN fact, be respectful when giving any kind of feedback, it always nets more positive results because you're more likely to be listened to. Edited July 9, 2016 by CrazyCortex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDar1o Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Just now, NightElve said: Yap! a Crisis No, it's Warframe forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajochi Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Just now, MrDar1o said: No, it's Warframe forum. ^this. It's any game forum really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-N7-Leonhart Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, MrDar1o said: Seriously? Yes, he actually thinks that if 1% of the loud player base that happens to like complaining does so, then it's a 'crisis', lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cghawk Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I just want someone to &#! them about nullifiers, as it stands DE NEVER talks about them all the while buffing them like wth, makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Doctor-Blitz- Posted July 9, 2016 Author Share Posted July 9, 2016 How would you call a situation with a major decrease of player numbers on steam charts 3 month in a row. Even now after the update there is only a small increase compared to the updates before. Name it in every way you want but I never felt so disappointed as in the last weeks. There a many people, including myself thinking about leaving the game. To be respectful is a must. To be honest, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoscythe Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 My hopes are on the last part of the update now. Maybe DE have something in store for us to make things have more sense? I am honestly disappointed. This much development time for the update and now this. This is not the "the second dream" quality I was expecting. However the Update also brought its positive parts. I like the new starchart and the fact they made AW guns acquireable by syndicates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDar1o Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, (PS4)Doctor-Blitz- said: There a many people, including myself thinking about leaving the game. k bye Edited July 9, 2016 by MrDar1o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mochikomi_Shin_Jidai Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Doctor-Blitz- Posted July 9, 2016 Author Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) The problem with players like me leaving is that you won't find players to pay for further development. Edited July 9, 2016 by (PS4)Doctor-Blitz- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajochi Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, (PS4)Doctor-Blitz- said: How would you call a situation with a major decrease of player numbers on steam charts 3 month in a row. Even now after the update there is only a small increase compared to the updates before. Name it in every way you want but I never felt so disappointed as in the last weeks. There a many people, including myself thinking about leaving the game. To be respectful is a must. To be honest, too. I'm looking at it, and it's not due to the updates. That is in correlation with the dry spell of new content as the devs were working on this massive update. Players were bored. There has been a net increase over the past 30 days only because of how close were were to this update. Players either came back because of the changes or simply played longer. The changes are not the reason for the the statistic, Warframe was in a very stale state for a while due to issues such as: Draco EXP farms, and similar high reward for no effort leaving the rest of the starmap a barren wasteland Players spending hours in endless void missions hoping for a drop with a very low chance In fact, since you want to bring up the Steam Chart, which only analyzes Steam and not the standalone launcher or the consoles, there has been an overall net gain of players over the past year. I'm not even sure what the player statistics are for the others. So again, there is no crisis, it's a small group of players who hate any kind of change, even if it improves the game health in the long run. Edited July 9, 2016 by CrazyCortex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coverop Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Just now, (PS4)Doctor-Blitz- said: 11 minutes ago, -BM-Leonhart said: Yes, he actually thinks that if 1% of the loud player base that happens to like complaining does so, then it's a 'crisis', lol. The Warframe that we used to know is gone... This update has brought more problems than solutions for the Warframe. Was Market Rework NECESSARY? Couldn't Devs slightly improve what already exists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madway7 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I'm pretty sure it's best to talk about issues if you have experienced them first hand, which most people attending Tennocon have not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)joe03827 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 You know that most people who will be at Tennocon didn't play the update yet. Telling them to complain about something they didn't try isn't logical 12 minutes ago, Coverop said: The Warframe that we used to know is gone... This update has brought more problems than solutions for the Warframe. Was Market Rework NECESSARY? Couldn't Devs slightly improve what already exists? Are you seriously mad ? it looks way more clean and organized Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDar1o Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Just now, Coverop said: The Warframe that we used to know is gone... This update has brought more problems than solutions for the Warframe. Was Market Rework NECESSARY? Couldn't Devs slightly improve what already exists? It's their game, if they want they can change every frame into pink pony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coverop Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Just now, (PS4)joe03827 said: You know that most people who will be at Tennocon didn't play the update yet. Telling them to complain about something they didn't try isn't logical Are you seriously mad ? it looks way more clean and organized Clean? You mean waste of empty space that could be filled with more items? Organized? Yes It's... slightly better organized than before but I don't see why DE couldn't add [search bar] in older Market version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icpmcp Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 If only the new star chart wouldn't look like something I won't bother describing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coverop Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 1 minute ago, MrDar1o said: It's their game, if they want they can change every frame into pink pony. And we are customers... we are the man not the slaves... we have choice to do what we want. We can flood the forum with opinions or leave the game and let Devs think on their own what they did wrong... clearly they don't mind those changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazerEraser Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 17 minutes ago, (PS4)Doctor-Blitz- said: How would you call a situation with a major decrease of player numbers on steam charts 3 month in a row. Even now after the update there is only a small increase compared to the updates before. Name it in every way you want but I never felt so disappointed as in the last weeks. There a many people, including myself thinking about leaving the game. To be respectful is a must. To be honest, too. i'd call it a summer drought, a LOT of good triple A games came out lately, you expect people to only play Warframe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajochi Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, (PS4)Doctor-Blitz- said: The problem with players like me leaving is that you won't find players to pay for further development. Conjecture. Players will always fund the game, you do not single handedly fund the entirety of Warframe. If 1% of the players say they will stop paying, that's still 99% of the playerbase as potential customers. I for one put money into the game because I like the devs and I like the game. If your statement is correct, then warframe should have died a long time ago. Since it's still here, then obviously players still pay for a little goody here and there. In fact, since someone is going to bring it up eventually, this whole conspiracy theory that the devs are trying to push plat prices is also conjecture with no proof to back it up. Warframe has one of the best F2P models I have seen in a game: you can work for the item, or you buy it. Cosmetics are the only exception and that's fine because they don't add to anything except fashion anyways. Payment has, and always will be optional as it is a sign of faith to the devs. Seems to me like the issue is not having to pay for items, but you and other players wanting everything handed to you without any effort on your end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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