EmptyDevil Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 So i haven't seen much discussion about this person or thing. IMO this is one of the things that raises the most questions, along side the mysterious voice at the end of the quest. Who/What is it? What were they doing in this cave? Were they attempting to recover their memories as well? If not, what was their task/goal? Why did they give up? How long have they been there? Did they draw the pictures on the wall of the cave? ETC. The pictures. Some are depictions of things in the cave: Spoiler I have my own headcanon and theory formulating about it, but I'm curious to see what others think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesiga Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 inb4 Stalker's dead Tenno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyDevil Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 Just now, Vesiga said: inb4 Stalker's dead Tenno You read my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesiga Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Just now, EmptyDevil said: You read my mind. Honestly, I want it to be. Just so we can know more about him. Ever since The Second Dream, Stalker has proven to be quite interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNoJump Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I was under the impression that the cave represented the Operator's mind, as you go there right as the Queen starts doing her Continuity thing, and when you leave you go back to that exact moment. If that is the case, maybe the dead beings are depictions of the adults who died aboard the Zariman, while the to-be-Operators survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyDevil Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Vesiga said: Honestly, I want it to be. Just so we can know more about him. Ever since The Second Dream, Stalker has proven to be quite interesting I agree that Stalker is very interesting. I hope we learn more about the character in the next quest. 1 minute ago, YUNoJump said: I was under the impression that the cave represented the Operator's mind, as you go there right as the Queen starts doing her Continuity thing, and when you leave you go back to that exact moment. If that is the case, maybe the dead beings are depictions of the adults who died aboard the Zariman, while the to-be-Operators survived. I thought it was a representation of something within their mind as well, but then i noticed that body is still there outside of the dream, when you're making your way to Teshin on the peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Separius Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Aren't they just someone who were eaten by the Orokin so that the latter can restore their youth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venon23 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Separius said: Aren't they just someone who were eaten by the Orokin so that the latter can restore their youth? for what i get it for continuaty is some kind of switch bodys tecnic not eating ppl alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Separius Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Just now, venon23 said: for what i get it for continuaty is some kind of switch bodys tecnic not eating ppl alive Yeah I get that, it was figure of speech, I mean the body is there, clearly no bitemarks. I meant more like their spirit, will and mind were eaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhekemi Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but I'm pretty sure Rebecca asked if that was a dead Tenno, and Steve said "nah". This was in the last Devstream. Doesn't mean they won't come back to it if they need to use it in the story. My own thinking is it isn't anyone: whole thing was a dream sequence. (Unless someone spotted the same body, as well as the other skeletons, when we come back to the Mountain Pass in the flesh.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 In regards to the images I can only make out the first 2 because colourblindness. First one could be the Sun I guess, not sure. Second one intrigues me though. Someone terrified of great looming shapes, first thing that comes to mind is what it would be like for a child in the Yuvan theatre. Paraded about whilst the great looming Orokin judge you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyDevil Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 13 minutes ago, Rhekemi said: Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but I'm pretty sure Rebecca asked if that was a dead Tenno, and Steve said "nah". This was in the last Devstream. Doesn't mean they won't come back to it if they need to use it in the story. My own thinking is it isn't anyone: whole thing was a dream sequence. (Unless someone spotted the same body, as well as the other skeletons, when we come back to the Mountain Pass in the flesh.) Steve seemed to be a bit secretive about the body when she asked from what i recall. The body is definitely still there after the dream sequence though. I replayed the quest earlier to be sure. 12 minutes ago, DeMonkey said: In regards to the images I can only make out the first 2 because colourblindness. First one could be the Sun I guess, not sure. Second one intrigues me though. Someone terrified of great looming shapes, first thing that comes to mind is what it would be like for a child in the Yuvan theatre. Paraded about whilst the great looming Orokin judge you. The first one kinda looks like Lua, or the Ayatan sculpture in one of the rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 minute ago, EmptyDevil said: The first one kinda looks like Lua, or the Ayatan sculpture in one of the rooms. Good point, should have noticed the candlestick sorta shapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhekemi Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 27 minutes ago, EmptyDevil said: Steve seemed to be a bit secretive about the body when she asked from what i recall. The body is definitely still there after the dream sequence though. I replayed the quest earlier to be sure. Okay. Didn't know it showed up in the physical world, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cortanis Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Vesiga said: Honestly, I want it to be. Just so we can know more about him. Ever since The Second Dream, Stalker has proven to be quite interesting Not to mention the entire missing scene that they've had going for the longest time with the Stalker dropping the sacrificial Loki head while surrounded by the Sentients. That never gets addressed in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I never even saw those cavepaintings. Must replay quest! But I am torn. Dream or no, those Golden Maws and the powers we remembered seemed real enough. Why not both? A Void Dream should have the power or traversing space and time. So in those seconds, we really was someplace else. Like the Zariman who drifted for years. But for the military only a.week had gone by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnccs215 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 In the dream, it's probably just a representation of what will happen to the operators should they, well... Give up. Alternatively, it's the original mind that inhabited the body, and the operator is actually themself an amnesiac orokin. In the real world... Probably just a body... Though the question is, why are there bodies there? 4 hours ago, Vesiga said: inb4 Stalker's dead Tenno Let's hope not. That'd be the cheapest and most forced "all is connected" contrivance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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