-HoB-KurtOn Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 So we all know today arrives Ash bladestorm rework..So i have some things to point out and see what you have to say.. Before: -If 20 enemies came in a group, you would press 4 to kill them, so you dont have to think about you dying etc. -Neverminding the enemy level, you will keep hitting them until they dead, if they dont die, you simply recast. Soon/today: (what is/would/going to happen after rework) -If 20 enemies came in a group, you would die, we wont have the time to mark all of them and execute them. -Multiple tags on an enemy: Soon you will have to mark enemies multiple times to get them killed if they are tough which is really bad imo, so if 5 lvl 150 heavy gunners came up to you, you couldnt save yourself by pressing 4 and going into safemode while ulting, but instead you will die, becouse like i said, no time to mark such high dmging enemies. I feel sorry for the people who will buy Ash Deluxe skin to not even play considering how broken (in a bad way) will it be.. Sorry for my bad english and possibly bad explanation but i hope you understand what i ment, basicly, what i mean, you aint gonna save to bum this time when the rework arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScytale Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I can't think of any other ability that renders you immune during its use, except the ones that are made for that. I can't see the problem here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalancedFury Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 i guess you forgot about smokescreen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteMarker Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, KurtOn99 said: Soon/today: (what is/would/going to happen after rework) -If 20 enemies came in a group, you would die, we wont have the time to mark all of them and execute them. Why not think outside the box and use something like Smokescreen? No... that would be ridiculous, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HoB-KurtOn Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 minute ago, TheScytale said: I can't think of any other ability that renders you immune during its use, except the ones that are made for that. I can't see the problem here. Cant wait for you to jump in T4 defense with you ash, and mark enemies one by one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarmakX99 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I think it's a good thing. Instead of Ash's bladestorm being a lazy, "press 4 to win" button you actually have to paint the targets and take the risk of being shot at while doing it. I still wish they would have removed the "enemies are invulnerable" thing while it's happening but alas, we don't always get everything we want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HoB-KurtOn Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, BalancedFury said: i guess you forgot about smokescreen I guess you fargot, if you are using bladestorm bulid, there is no duration left for your smokescreen :) Edited November 25, 2016 by KurtOn99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 How about using a smoke bomb then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMasque Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Ash only has one ability?! What is this nerf shizz?! /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HoB-KurtOn Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, WhiteMarker said: Why not think outside the box and use something like Smokescreen? No... that would be ridiculous, right? Smoke screen that lasts for 1.x seconds? Becouse thats how it is when having BS bulid on your ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An8rchy Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 minute ago, KurtOn99 said: Cant wait for you to jump in T4 defense with you ash, and mark enemies one by one. I tell you why u will wait until u die. Cuz theres other frames for defence than ash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HoB-KurtOn Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Ksaero said: How about using a smoke bomb then? Read other replies that answer your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhitepanda1205 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Smokescreen makes you invisible. Also aren't you invulnerable during Teleport's Finisher Animation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaokasalis Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, KurtOn99 said: Cant wait for you to jump in T4 defense with you ash, and mark enemies one by one. Void towers arent really a thing anymore... And its not like ash is squishy, his actually pretty tanky. If you cant mark the enemies or deal wiith them without bladestorm id say that theres something wrong with your playstyle because Ash have plenty of survivalbility in both Smokescreen and in his health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteMarker Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 minute ago, KurtOn99 said: I guess you fargot, if you are using bladestorm bulid, there is no duration left for your smokescreen :) So you are in the wrong here because you are only building for one ability. Case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, KurtOn99 said: Smoke screen that lasts for 1.x seconds? Becouse thats how it is when having BS bulid on your ash. BS build is no more about minimum duration. You'll have to rebuild now. Is it such a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScytale Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, KurtOn99 said: Cant wait for you to jump in T4 defense with you ash, and mark enemies one by one. Quick question, have you played any other frame in T4 defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ThermalStone Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, TheScytale said: I can't think of any other ability that renders you immune during its use, except the ones that are made for that. I can't see the problem here. Atlas punch. Anyway, sounds like they made Ash more clunky. Never a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemmo67 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, KurtOn99 said: I guess you fargot, if you are using bladestorm bulid, there is no duration left for your smokescreen :) 3000 armor and shield ignoring slash dmg and u still need more? wtf are you doing c_c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_Cop_2 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 New bladestorm seems pointless for mass murdering, hopefully it's gonna be useful in stealth missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HoB-KurtOn Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, TheScytale said: Quick question, have you played any other frame in T4 defense? I gave an example for this specific frame, no need to be a #$&(% :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Krose Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I really dont mind about the Ash rework... My question is, the Arcane Trickery will work? The "Ash" himself will be doing the finish move to activate the arcane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyDevil Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 11 minutes ago, KurtOn99 said: Smoke screen that lasts for 1.x seconds? Becouse thats how it is when having BS bulid on your ash. Then don't use a build with 17% Power Duration. 1 minute ago, -Krose said: I really dont mind about the Ash rework... My question is, the Arcane Trickery will work? The "Ash" himself will be doing the finish move to activate the arcane? Why would it not work? Blade Storm's damage type is going to remain finisher damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScytale Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, (XB1)ThermalStone said: Atlas punch. True, but it isn't a mass murdering ability so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScytale Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, KurtOn99 said: I gave an example for this specific frame, no need to be a #$&(% :) I'm not being a #$&(%, whatever it means. Just saying that other frames don't have that super quick damaging ability that wipes up all the room while making you invincible. Skills that do give a certain damage resistance or immunity are specifically made for that, and generally don't do anything spectacular except that. Bladestorm is not just intruding on both DPS and damage mitigation realms, it's basically sitting there near the top of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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