TeaBegging Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 People are just ignorant, Some people don't like good advice. That's why I never share my builds. Because they are researched by me up to a point until its perfect. Why would I waste my time to explain my build I work so hard for to others who blatantly copy and paste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 24 minutes ago, DatDarkOne said: Not disagreeing with you. In sortie Defense, Frost's Snow Globe isn't as effective because of the moving defense target. Well at least not how they are normally used. Depending on the sortie level and faction, that defense target can be incredibly annoying to keep alive. One combo that does work very well in that situation is Cloak Arrow and Avalanche. There are other methods that also work well. Blindly following the traditional meta can usually lead to extra frustration in cases like this. Not saying that you do. Just adding additional experience/observation for the topic. :D I was talking about regular defense, but yeah, if you are defending a mobile target then an Ivara or Limbo would work, but they still are not Oberon. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackviator Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) 15 hours ago, TheDefenestrater said: People say "body count doesn't work for Exalted Blade". That's false. I mean, you got a lot of good points in that wall of text. But........ BC kinda-sorta literally doesn't do anything for exalted melee weapons. None of the Shadow Debt mods do. They only work on normal melee weapons. Edited December 5, 2016 by Jackviator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Darth-Escar Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 15 minutes ago, (PS4)DesecratedFlame said: I was talking about regular defense, but yeah, if you are defending a mobile target then an Ivara or Limbo would work, but they still are not Oberon. . Oberon is great at defense. I'm sure I have an old video of that somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 1 minute ago, (PS4)Darth-Escar said: Oberon is great at defense. I'm sure I have an old video of that somewhere. You really don't pay attention, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Darth-Escar Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 Just now, (PS4)DesecratedFlame said: You really don't pay attention, do you? What's the issue this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, (PS4)Darth-Escar said: What's the issue this time? It never changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Mofojokers Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, (PS4)DesecratedFlame said: It never changed. 9 minutes ago, (PS4)Darth-Escar said: What's the issue this time? You two have been at it for like 5 pages now. ? Are you guys both at that point yet?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, (PS4)Mofojokers said: You two have been at it for like 5 pages now. ? Are you guys both at that point yet?. I can argue with people until the end of time and never lose my cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesyol Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 It's kinda good not many know that Oberon is good. Some people started to use him like new Ash - spamming 4 everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatDarkOne Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 18 minutes ago, (PS4)Darth-Escar said: Oberon is great at defense. I'm sure I have an old video of that somewhere. I don't really play Oberon. I would like to know how you would approach using him in a Sortie Defense mission. Remember that sortie defense has a moving defense target. I've seen other play Oberon and do well with him, but he's not a frame I see a lot in PuGs. This to satisfy my curiosity because I really do want to know. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Just now, DatDarkOne said: I don't really play Oberon. I would like to know how you would approach using him in a Sortie Defense mission. Remember that sortie defense has a moving defense target. I've seen other play Oberon and do well with him, but he's not a frame I see a lot in PuGs. This to satisfy my curiosity because I really do want to know. Thank you. Come on and slam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatDarkOne Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 LMAO!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Mofojokers Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 8 minutes ago, (PS4)DesecratedFlame said: I can argue with people until the end of time and never lose my cool. I can see that lol , it has been an interesting 5 page. I'll check in with you two again in another 5. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Darth-Escar Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 8 minutes ago, DatDarkOne said: I don't really play Oberon. I would like to know how you would approach using him in a Sortie Defense mission. Remember that sortie defense has a moving defense target. I've seen other play Oberon and do well with him, but he's not a frame I see a lot in PuGs. This to satisfy my curiosity because I really do want to know. Thank you. I use a Phoenix Renewal and CC build. Low duration and strength with high efficiency and range, so I can prevent the target from taking lots of damage, and easily revive them. I have yet to upgrade Sanctuary on my kubrow though, so that may change when I do. That's mainly for solo play. If I decide to join a squad, I'll bring whatever, depending on the faction and modifier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebel Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 18 minutes ago, (PS4)Mofojokers said: I can see that lol , it has been an interesting 5 page. I'll check in with you two again in another 5. ? Anti meta problems Understands that there is a meta system Disagrees with meta system Tries to justify being part of the meta Denied acceptance into the meta ??? Basically how it looks like when you take a step back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemeSageZ Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I got in an argument last night about the Lesion. idk why people say the lesion is just mastery fotter. it's now my Main weapon, and it's Stronger then the nikana prime. better Status and Higher DPS in most cases. and with the new Melee Mods. it's needless to say the Lesion is one of the Top DPS weapons in the game. yet. people call me names like "$&*&*#(%&, idiot, moron, no life youtuber *cough Meme Sage on Youtube Cough* and such, because the popular idea about the weapon is "it's bad". It's a Pole arm that can near one shot level 110 corrupted heavy gunners. Nuff Said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danjal777 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 1 hour ago, (PS4)DesecratedFlame said: I can argue with people until the end of time and never lose my cool. You were never cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, Danjal777 said: You were never cool... Are you calling me Hawt? *blushes* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlord1400 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 People say Trinity is "useless" when she does 80% of the things that make her great to this day, and it irks me. She is my most used frame, and it would sometimes feel like players are spitting on my legacy as a player, but it doesn't bother me anymore because she still tops off health and energy like from DAY ONE! All I know is one thing now, *play what you like*, and I like Trinity, and many other unwanted frame, and unless I'm dying every 30 seconds, don't judge who I play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaUrchins Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 3 hours ago, (PS4)Darth-Escar said: Oberon is great at defense. What was your highest void defence wave in solo mode with Oberon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 52 minutes ago, Warlord1400 said: People say Trinity is "useless" when she does 80% of the things that make her great to this day, and it irks me. She is my most used frame, and it would sometimes feel like players are spitting on my legacy as a player, but it doesn't bother me anymore because she still tops off health and energy like from DAY ONE! All I know is one thing now, *play what you like*, and I like Trinity, and many other unwanted frame, and unless I'm dying every 30 seconds, don't judge who I play! She is not useless; she is a battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorClipClop Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 On 12/3/2016 at 3:00 PM, (PS4)Darth-Escar said: Way too often, I see people judging weapons and warframes without a lot or any usage with them. A few months back I got in a lot arguments about the quality of Mag as a damage dealer with people who had never even played her after the rework. Sometimes people confuse their opinions or other peoples' opinions with facts and then snowball into ridiculousness from there. It's pretty sad and it never gets anything good done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Darth-Escar Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 4 hours ago, SeaUrchins said: What was your highest void defence wave in solo mode with Oberon? I don't remember. I'd mainly go to the void for survival, but the invincible enemy glitch was most common there. Now that it seems to be fixed, mostly at least, I'm not opposed to recording some void defense. I have a lot of different things to prove to people though, and 1 or 2 hours per mission will take a long time to do with my schedule, since I will also continue testing weapons, getting forma and stuff. I have this Lua defense video with one of my old loadouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 7 hours ago, Jackviator said: I mean, you got a lot of good points in that wall of text. But........ BD kinda-sorta literally doesn't do anything for exalted melee weapons. None of the Shadow Debt mods do. They only work on normal melee weapons. Sorry, drifting contact affects the combo counter, which affects the blade itself, and by proxy the waves. Blood rush doesn't for some dumb reason. The waves don't gain combo hits without slash procs triggering relentless combination. The blade itself always gains a combo hit. Like I said, it'd be a different build with a different play style that most people don't even consider. It's a possibility that everyone's simply written off because someone made the blanket statement that those types of mods don't effect exalted melees, which is false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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