Cray Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Zamio said: I love how you type that and somehow forget Equinox, Ivara, Ash, etc's existence. Nidus farm is really easy compared to quite a few. I didn't forget anything. Those farms may be a bit rough, sure, but not 1% rot. C bad. And I would know, I've done them all. (Protip: Need to help someone get Ash? LoR is here to help.) Edit Anyway, that's not the point. It's about pointing out how "free" doesn't justify "unreasonable". Edited December 29, 2016 by DeltaPhantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicfingers Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, ChuckMaverick said: It's not free, at least not anything bought with plat (beyond your starting amount). That plat was paid for by someone, even if it wasn't you. but nobody forced them to buy plat. that was their own choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volinus7 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) Everyone buys slots so it's not 100% free except when you use only initial plats. Edited December 29, 2016 by Volinus7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 there's two sides to every coin. yes, it's a free game, but people have the right to voice an opinion, no matter how positive or negative it might be. the only thing that truly matters is whether the post is constructive: I.e. you explain what you think needs fixing and why, and if possible, come up with your own suggestion (doesn't have to be good, just enough to potentially spark a discussion.). anything non-constructive isn't useful, and while we all have times where we need to vent, this isn't the place to do it. better to vent the old fashioned way: at your TV, like a complete maniac. you'll look crazy, but at least you won't get warning points or a ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Tactless_Ninja Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 13 minutes ago, Hypernaut1 said: Not only is it a free game, you can trade for its premium currency. The premium currency that someone had to buy first. You're technically leeching off them. I also remember deleting a disgusting amount of weapons in my noob days because there was simply no space for it. It's free to a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ReadingFire229 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, ChuckMaverick said: Not necessarily true. I always reserve my harshest criticism for things or people I love or respect because they deserve my honesty more than others, and hiding from the truth helps no one. Very well said my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckMaverick Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Magicfingers said: but nobody forced them to buy plat. that was their own choice And? That has nothing to do with whether it is free or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naftal Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) Free to play progression is never free, you either pay a lot of money or use a lot more time to do something compared to a pay to play or buy to play games. Free to play shouldn't exist in games with progression imo. Edited December 29, 2016 by Naftal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamio Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, DeltaPhantom said: I didn't forget anything. Those farms may be a bit rough, sure, but not 1% rot. C bad. And I would know, I've done them all. (Protip: Need to help someone get Ash? LoR is here to help.) Edit Anyway, that's not the point. It's about pointing out how "free" doesn't justify "unreasonable". Yeah, fair enough. Unreasonable costs like Hema are bad. But otherwise, WF is pretty good balancing the reasonable. 2 minutes ago, (PS4)Tactless_Ninja said: The premium currency that someone had to buy first. You're technically leeching off them. I also remember deleting a disgusting amount of weapons in my noob days because there was simply no space for it. It's free to a point. Then level and delete the weapon immediately. It is possible to play without buying a thing, just inconvenient, and your experience would be made better if you bought slots. Which is exactly how it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Tactless_Ninja Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Just now, Zamio said: Then level and delete the weapon immediately. It is possible to play without buying a thing, just inconvenient, and your experience would be made better if you bought slots. Which is exactly how it should be. You don't see this as a problem? People ask an opinion about a frame or weapon and I can go back, equip it, and give proper feedback about modding or how to use it. Other people who have to make a decision to keep it or not ultimately explain away why they didn't keep it. Because it's "mastery fodder", or simply "it's garbage". And they only keep what's the most op or efficient. The meta is killing the game. It leaves no room for variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, (PS4)Tactless_Ninja said: The premium currency that someone had to buy first. You're technically leeching off them. I also remember deleting a disgusting amount of weapons in my noob days because there was simply no space for it. It's free to a point. No one HAD to buy currency, they wanted to. Either way, if you as a player want to earn plat through gameplay, it's more than easy enough to. DE doesn't force you to buy a frame with money if it's hard to get. You can play other parts of the game and earn it that way. Don't get me wrong, the game definitely has flaws (as with all things) but when arguments amount to accusing DE of doing things only to gouge the players, it's just not true. Edited December 29, 2016 by Hypernaut1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)halcyonpwns Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 THE WHOLE PEOPLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volinus7 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 If all regular plats suppliers stop at the same time, I wonder how long full freebies can survive without buying plats themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Tactless_Ninja Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Hypernaut1 said: No one HAD to buy currency, they wanted to. Either way, if you as a player want to earn plat through gameplay, it's more than easy enough to. But someone DID buy the currency. To trade plat you need to buy it. The devstream plat giveaways are not tradeable. It's free in the sense you didn't buy it, but it isn't earnable resource in-game. Someone has to supply it. And the buy-in is the space to put it. That's the conflict, not the farming or acquisition. They just added more Riven mods with only 15 default spaces to put them in. You're either going to get used to deleting a lot of mods, or buy more space. They're giving away soup and having you pay for the bowls. Edited December 29, 2016 by (PS4)Tactless_Ninja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ReadingFire229 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 While I agree with the title of the post no forces you to buy plat when I first started I flat out refused to buy plat or prime access and I basically have everything available to me on the current console version of warframe just trade for things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ReadingFire229 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 While I agree with the title of the post no forces you to buy plat when I first started I flat out refused to buy plat or prime access and I basically have everything available to me on the current console version of warframe just trade for things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ReadingFire229 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 While I agree with the title of the post no forces you to buy plat when I first started I flat out refused to buy plat or prime access and I basically have everything available to me on the current console version of warframe just trade for things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ReadingFire229 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 While I agree with the title of the post no forces you to buy plat when I first started I flat out refused to buy plat or prime access and I basically have everything available to me on the current console version of warframe just trade for things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ReadingFire229 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 While I agree with the title of the post no forces you to buy plat when I first started I flat out refused to buy plat or prime access and I basically have everything available to me on the current console version of warframe just trade for things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)halcyonpwns Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, (Xbox One)ReadingFire229 said: While I agree with the title of the post no forces you to buy plat when I first started I flat out refused to buy plat or prime access and I basically have everything available to me on the current console version of warframe just trade for things Name checks out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ReadingFire229 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 minute ago, (PS4)halcyonpwns said: Name checks out. Clever but seriously how the hell do I delete all my extra posts my phone Is acting really weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irorone Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 39 minutes ago, ChuckMaverick said: Well at least this topic has brought all the trolls together under the same bridge. (Why does this forum not have a :rolleyes: emoticon?) Because, ironically, it already has this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)SweatyPick3L Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) I buy the accessory pack every 3 months because Im a fan. TBO I would rather spend 60 bones on warframe accessories every 3 months, then go shopping for mods and pixels, IMO its better than exploring the trash that are called "AAA" titles now a days. lol Edited December 29, 2016 by (XB1)FCastle74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NativeKiller Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) Disregarding legitimate feedback by simply saying "It's free so stop complaining"... That is what turns games from "Free to Play" to "Pay to Win". Edited December 29, 2016 by NativeKiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckMaverick Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, NativeKiller said: That is what turns games from "Free to Play" to "Pay to Win". "Pay to win" is a subjective term, and people will argue semantics with you all day on that one. I prefer to think of it as going from a game you want to spend money on, to one you feel you have to spend money on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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