(PSN)The_Don0692 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Hi Still pretty new to the whole Riven Mod thing. I play on PS4 +246.6% Damage +144.8% Multishot -83.1% Crit Damage Pretty unfamiliar with the synapse so not really sure whether the drop in crit damage will really affect the use of this mod. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIREEK Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Are you unable to check the weapon stats on the wiki or ingame? You have cleared multiple quests, you are far away from any tutorial, you have cleared multiple late planet missions, modding should have been learned by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The__Q Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Most of it's damage is in crit, because of it's 50% crit chance base. However, it might be fine, because of the other stats, so i'd suggest testing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolgys Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 no, its not fine...-crit dmg ruins it, reroll or min price as such. dont even try to use a riven that reduces one of the stats most important for a weapon. just looking at it tells that crit dmg is literally THE stat on it. no crit chance, not base dmg, no multishot...crit damage is THE stat. if u wanna do testing, do it, i did and concluded that. but just looking at this riven screams "reroll fodder !!". it will prolly increase ur average dps slightly because the +base dmg increase counters the -1.7 crit multiplier, but this mod is countersynergy in itself and a wasted slot. shred will add more dps and also give it aoe-capabilities aka punch through. greetings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)The_Don0692 Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Xydeth said: no, its not fine...-crit dmg ruins it, reroll or min price as such. dont even try to use a riven that reduces one of the stats most important for a weapon. just looking at it tells that crit dmg is literally THE stat on it. no crit chance, not base dmg, no multishot...crit damage is THE stat. if u wanna do testing, do it, i did and concluded that. but just looking at this riven screams "reroll fodder !!". it will prolly increase ur average dps slightly because the +base dmg increase counters the -1.7 crit multiplier, but this mod is countersynergy in itself and a wasted slot. shred will add more dps and also give it aoe-capabilities aka punch through. greetings Ok thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyrmius_Prime Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 38 minutes ago, The__Q said: Most of it's damage is in crit, because of it's 50% crit chance base. Increasing your base damage is just as important and increasing the crit stats on crit weapons, because critical stats are multipliers to your base damage. Additive stacking of crit mods comes with diminishing returns, meaning that even if we had 8 different crit mods for primary weapons, dividing the slots between crit, multishot, elementals and base damage mods if way more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyLagging Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) -83.1% crit multiplier kek You won't be getting a lot from people that even bothers with Synapse like me, that's for sure. With that Riven you get around 4-5k burst and 3k sustained compared to a non-Riven build. You miiiight be able to catch some people off guard if they only see the +damage +multishot but eh, I don't really advocate scamming people that way. EDIT : The dps boost is actually quite lower, it's actually around 1-2k burst and like 1k sustained according to wfbuilder. So yeah. I'd say reroll it until you get a +critical multiplier Edited February 26, 2017 by TotallyLagging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xardis Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 18 minutes ago, TotallyLagging said: -83.1% crit multiplier kek You won't be getting a lot from people that even bothers with Synapse like me, that's for sure. With that Riven you get around 4-5k burst and 3k sustained compared to a non-Riven build. You miiiight be able to catch some people off guard if they only see the +damage +multishot but eh, I don't really advocate scamming people that way. Would you go with something like this: 192.7% crit chance and 3.7m punch through, no other stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyLagging Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Just now, Xardis said: Would you go with something like this: 192.7% crit chance and 3.7m punch through, no other stats. If I rolled something like that I'd take it, but I won't buy it. Guaranteed red crits may sound good but unless you always headshot enemies that Riven is replaceable with a max rank Heavy Caliber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaliazane Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 It's usable, but far from optimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceheart125 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 There's a place for things like this, that isn't general discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insizer Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Why is this in general discussion if you are asking for help from other players. Post stuff like this in the Players Helping Players subforum. That Riven is worth no more than what a Synapse Riven in need of re-rolling would be worth. It is a crit weapon so the -crit damage makes it near garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insizer Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 5 hours ago, Xardis said: Would you go with something like this: 192.7% crit chance and 3.7m punch through, no other stats. Yes, that would be much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolgys Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) On 26.2.2017 at 3:32 PM, Xardis said: Would you go with something like this: 192.7% crit chance and 3.7m punch through, no other stats. u will be surprised if u do the math /use WF builder how really really bad crit chane alone on synapse is....u want basedmg/multishot +crit dmg nothing else, alternatively elemental or punch through, thats also good, but crit chance...no thanks imo Edited February 28, 2017 by Xydeth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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