Continued enemy notes; spawns, ospreys, enemy ignis

[WolvenEdge]

I've been helping a newer player through the planetary system, and watching a lower-equipped player struggling has yielded some interesting notes... mostly in the realm of suddenly being on fire out of nowhere, insta-deaths when trying to do as certain enemy mobs demand, and sudden swarming due to being spawned on top of.

I'll explain.

In crossfire missions of any kind vs. Grineer;
One can suddenly find themselves taking damage from no source at all, often being set on fire. No fire trap, no enemies nearby, no sniping Napalm units, nothing except a Scorch unit in the next room that just happened to be spraying in your general direction. The cone is massive, and the damage ticks and status seem to have nothing blocking them at all; cover is worthless, being a room or two over is worthless... you're still hit, you're still on fire, and at that distance the cone is near inescapable, so parkour where available is nigh useless.

In any mission vs. Corpus that's of significant level and enemy spawn;
Corpus bubbly nutters, everywhere. Not so much the Nullifiers in this case, the sapping ospreys. They're everywhere, dropping massive amounts of their aoe-damage bubbles, that a newer player can't even approach to disable. Normally, this wouldn't be a problem, but I've been noting a disturbing trend with them when I've encountered them alone, one of me to one of them. When they toss down a grenade, I kill the Osprey, then wait for the grenade to hit the ground, and shoot it. I use a bow, there should only be ONE damage number, but I'm often seeing anywhere from three to five, from one grenade drop of one osprey. Not too much to deal with for anyone who has decent mods for survivability on their frame, but for a newer player, even one of these ospreys becomes a powerful obstacle, as stepping into that bubble is a literal death trap.
For both Nullifiers and any kind of Osprey, their spawn locations seem dependent entirely on the host. If I get much of any distance from the player I'm mentoring, she finds herself absolutely swarmed out of nowhere as these enemies literally spawn on top of her. Some infested units can catch one by surprise, but I watched her step into an empty room and run out as a couple dozen damage bubbles showed up from the room, closely followed by several Sapping Ospreys and a nullifier shortly afterward.

I understand that the current focus of the game is making it difficult enough that higher-leveled players aren't getting bored, but we do still need to keep in mind that there are new playerss coming into the game, and they are encountering these same increases of difficulty even in lower leveled missions. If these are bugs, I request they be looked into (I know that the enemy Ignis was supposedly fixed recently, I assure you that it still ignores obstacles), if they are working as intended, I request that they be looked into further, and/or limited to higher level play, so that newer players aren't swarmed and the deaded the instant they're more than a dozen steps behind the host.
I thank you for your attention, and hope that this is delt with soon.

Sapping Osprey grenade number, single arrow from bow. Number of damage notes is thus equal to the number of grenades blown up.

Edited February 27, 2017 by WolvenEdge
Adding pictures.

[(XBOX)Grimsley Clause]

Reading this while listening to the 2 Player theme from Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine made this more urgent to me for some reason.

 

Whilst i've never had these problems happen to myself (Exception being the Osprey "Bombers") I can understand how difficult it would be for a newer player to deal with this. Hyekka Masters and Scorches need something done about their range and ability to hit through walls, behind cover, and through the rift just due to the length of their cone (Rift being the exception to that). 

 

So yeah, I agree.

[RobWasHere]

Didnt they patched it recently so Scorch dont have punch-through anymore? Seems it broken again.

[Koldraxon-732]

If I recall, there are patches of fire on some Crossfire/Invasion/Sabotage missions which might be responsible for burning you.
Otherwise, you might want to record the instance of the Scorcher/Hyekka Master managing to cook you from a room away (solution: use range limitation on Scorchers and give them and virtually any other armed Grineer (Heavy Gunners, Drakk/Hyekka Masters, Troopers, Scorchers, Bombards, and melee-oriented Grineer one Viper) Twin Vipers so that they can adapt to the situation and do less damage).

And I agree entirely about those Sapper Ospreys; their mines do far more damage than they should, and when you've got a few of them, a Comba/Scrambus, and some Bursas, the Tenno is usually forced to retreat or all-in on the Bursas, then power disruptors, then the Ospreys. The Osprey's ability to drop explosives should be given a slower recharge rate, and all Ospreys should be armed with a Cestra.

In some situations, the 'gunship' (Attach Drone) Osprey proves to be incredibly deadly, and so do the rare Scavenger Ospreys, despite them having low health which contradicts their size.

Spoiler'd item is not exactly on topic.

Spoiler

On a side-note, Javloks have a tendency NOT to return to sender (especially visible when throwing before death on a Conclave Server; also provides another worrying bug: no primaries in Conclave due to Javlok failing to return to sender).

[WolvenEdge]

Unfortunately this was an area with no patches of fire... if I see the bugs again I'll be making attempts at screenshots, but no promises, my screenshot systems have been lagging lately. >w<

[WolvenEdge]

Got a shot of the Osprey's grenade problem.

[WolvenEdge]

Moving to bugs section, whoever's in charge, delete this copy if you wish.

Edited March 25, 2017 by WolvenEdge