ShortbusGangster Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Aside from Null Star, nover is perfect. Add some kind of triggering to the "Seeking Out" effect of Null Star so you can use its damage reduction. It's kind of annoying when your way of survival literally flies off into the distance to barely damage enemies. Even a minimal range of 5 meters, it drops off rather quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadishia Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Null Star is a form of defense as well. 5% damage reduction with upwards of 90% damage reduction on health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Rasmazar Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Kadishia said: Null Star is a form of defense as well. 5% damage reduction with upwards of 90% damage reduction on health. This post right here reminds me of those automatic e-mail replies, where it saw a keyword, and then doesnt answer your question, but plainly states what you were already talking about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolfen Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 That's why I use this in my build And to be honest I feel that that is the better way. Nova got this resistance but by base she is meant to be squishy. Using a augment to turn it into a tanking ability kind of fits the purpose of an augment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekkou Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Airwolfen said: That's why I use this in my build And to be honest I feel that that is the better way. Nova got this resistance but by base she is meant to be squishy. Using a augment to turn it into a tanking ability kind of fits the purpose of an augment. It works the opposite though. If Nova meant to be squishy and the augment meant to make her Tanky. Then Null Star should have innate knockdown while Neutron Star give the ability damage reduction. At this moment Null Star already give tanking ability, while Neutron Star is basically just a band aid to refresh the damage reduction. It's a very roundabout way to achieve something that can be easily simplified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Rasmazar Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 It is also funny to me that Nova is "supposed to be squishy" by Gara and Mesa arent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqecmi Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 90% damage reduction on demand from neutron star is not enough? 8 минут назад, Rekkou сказал: It works the opposite though. If Nova meant to be squishy and the augment meant to make her Tanky. Then Null Star should have innate knockdown while Neutron Star give the ability damage reduction. At this moment Null Star already give tanking ability, while Neutron Star is basically just a band aid to refresh the damage reduction. It's a very roundabout way to achieve something that can be easily simplified. yes, please give ability to refresh rino skin. would help too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolfen Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Rekkou said: It works the opposite though. If Nova meant to be squishy and the augment meant to make her Tanky. Then Null Star should have innate knockdown while Neutron Star give the ability damage reduction. At this moment Null Star already give tanking ability, while Neutron Star is basically just a band aid to refresh the damage reduction. It's a very roundabout way to achieve something that can be easily simplified. Well the augment is not "supposed" to make her tanky. I do believe she did not even have the 5% at the point of the augments release. Its function is the ability to blow up null star on your own. augmenting its function. A side effect is that the damage reduction becomes a manageable thing unlike its base function. Making the reduction manageable by baseline however changes the base Nova to an off-tank by default. Edited March 30, 2018 by Airwolfen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie_mastyr Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 The only thing that really bothers me about this ability is that there's a noticeable delay before you can cast anything else after using it. So it makes it annoying to use a few abilities in succession. Also the range reduction of narrowminded usually is enough to keep my orbs from firing off. especially when the whole room is slowed down to a crawl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandergear Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Sqecmi said: 90% damage reduction on demand from neutron star is not enough? yes, please give ability to refresh rino skin. would help too. ... Iron Shrapnel ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspberry Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 As much as I acknowledge that Null Star's issue is fixed with an augment, I do not appreciate that the fix IS an augment. Augments are supposed to enhance an ability, not be a fix where playing without it makes it damn near useless. At least Ash's Teleport still opens enemies to finishers and Fatal Tele just makes the finisher an automatic after-action. For Null Star, we can't refresh it, throw all our orbs away at once for a recast, anything. NOPE. Even with one orb, you have to wait for it to seek an enemy or fall off the map (you're dead either way in a sortie). TL;DR: Augment mods should be enhancements, not necessary fixes. Make Null Star a better defensive tool, please @DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqecmi Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 часа назад, Gandergear сказал: ... Iron Shrapnel ... null star does the same job, wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDancer Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 8 hours ago, Sqecmi said: 90% damage reduction on demand from neutron star is not enough? considering it keeps going away while enemies are nearby without doing good dmg, yes, its not enough either remove the part where the orbs fly at enemies and make it a timer-only ability, or make each orb disappear after X number of hits(regardless of how much dmg each hit does) OR make the orbs actually do good damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqecmi Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) 14 минут назад, TKDancer сказал: considering it keeps going away while enemies are nearby without doing good dmg, yes, its not enough either remove the part where the orbs fly at enemies and make it a timer-only ability, or make each orb disappear after X number of hits(regardless of how much dmg each hit does) OR make the orbs actually do good damage considering rhino iron skin going away when enemies are shooting at you, it's not enough. Edited March 30, 2018 by Sqecmi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDancer Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, Sqecmi said: considering rhino iron skin going away when enemies are shooting at you, it's not enough. yay, ridiculous false equivalances rhino can give us dozens of thousands of buffer HP null star give us orbs, number depending on duration, that give us 5% DR each, but while enemies are in range orbs fly at them for basically no reason since their dmg is pitiful ur equivalence would have worked if iron skin gave DR instead of buffer HP and if it lost its power over time while near enemies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqecmi Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) 1 минуту назад, TKDancer сказал: yay, ridiculous false equivalances rhino can give us dozens of thousands of buffer HP null star give us orbs, number depending on duration, that give us 5% DR each, but while enemies are in range orbs fly at them for basically no reason since their dmg is pitiful ur equivalence would have worked if iron skin gave DR instead of buffer HP and if it lost its power over time while near enemies as you say. maybe you are just not into nova? she is not good at sliding, just so you know. Edited March 30, 2018 by Sqecmi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDancer Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Sqecmi said: as you say. maybe you are just not into nova? she is not good at sliding, just so you know. ??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaius Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) They could always make another Augment that changes null star to be defensive in nature. The current augment linked is more of a offensive or panic CC option for null star. Another interesting option would be that the stars stay orbiting until absorbing a set amount of damage to "charge up" before shooting off to a target and dealing a modified amount of damage for the damage it absorbed. So in essance turns null star into some type of Ablative, or reactive armor. Edited March 30, 2018 by Andaius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)BlackGuyver82 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Null star should have 100%chance to knock enemies down on contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcceptYourDeath Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Am 30.3.2018 um 12:13 schrieb ShortbusGangster: Add some kind of triggering to the "Seeking Out" effect of Null Star At that point you might as well just rework the ability to a basic damage-reduction buff, which isn`t particular interesting. If you want to help the ability it should just do something more helpful if it hits. If this would be changed everybody would just activate it and most likely ask for the mode where null stars stay to be default setting - never using the ability actively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPandemonium Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) Nova already makes the game a snoozefest with her free 200k nukes and "make all enemies suck" abilities. Maybe Null Star should be totally changed to something more interesting but DE isn't going to do this either way, especially now that people discovered quasi godmode that only works when you use the most popular build anyway. Edited March 31, 2018 by RealPandemonium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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