[Dumb question about forma]

It's shiny, and appears to be made of metal, so I imagine it smells like metal lol

Not a lot of smell, but just enough to where you can tell it's metal

[Help to destroy Halls in Dojo]

I think they need to upgrade how Dojo building/arranging/rearranging is done.

 

[Dojo and Unmovable Rooms]

A grid based system would be very helpful, good idea! 

Would the same rules apply to stuck rooms, such as: Barracks, Grand Halls, Oracle, etc?

[Dojo and Unmovable Rooms]

Why do certain rooms have to be stuck forever when you place them(I know the reason, but still)? You should be able to move unmovable rooms, to a different area in your Dojo. 

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I am trying to rearrange my Dojo, made it when I was a noob, and there are some spaces I'd like to use but I can't because the Barracks, certain Halls, the Oracle, or some other similar room is in the way.

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Maybe instead of force deconstructing, you would be able to move the room on a different part of the map? (or store 3 max at a time? idk)

 

TL;DR I just think it'd be helpful to have the ability to move unmovable rooms around, and yes I know you can safely destroy some rooms (not talking about those)

[A little advice before using your Umbra Forma]

Putting mine on Saryn Prime 😎

[Issue Resolved]

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[Next prime frame?]

Can't wait for Nezha Prime!

[Negative Platinum Balance]

DE really needs to look into this.

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5 minutes ago, Zelmen said:

I'm sure there is a stat somewhere but that would only be of people with accounts. You don't need an account to better your trades from it. (see below) You clearly don't understand sales/marketing if you are naive enough to think you're not hurting yourself by avoiding it. Yes you can do well without it if you follow trends in chat but you could do better with it.

 

If you're looking at prices on there, you are still using it. At minimum you know what the lowest price should be. You're just not using the aspect of posting on it. Like looking up a value of a car online before you put your own ad in the newpaper. Still used it to get a better deal.

I don't need a 3rd party site to better my sales. I do just fine without it. Actually I find that Trade Chat prices tend to be neutral or better than warframe.market, that's why I only looked a couple of times (as a guest, I have not connected my account to their site), because it was recommended to me for references. 

I understand sales and marketing. I am not hurting myself. I am doing better with ingame stuff. 

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8 minutes ago, GnarlsDarkley said:

/Woooooosh

I have no problem with an AH, it's the problems connected to it being more negaitve then useful.

Well I should have stayed out of this thread as my initial tendency was. Try to reason your Auction House, idc. It will not come.

Have fun being thick

These issues are happening regardless of a marketplace, and should be immediately looked into as I said earlier. ^{You did also state concern (for profits) with "trash" being 1plat, even though it's trash, and it is around it's average price.}

It needs to happen. Most MMORPGS do not start with a marketplace, because of funding, and how small it is. But Warframe, I'm sure has plenty of funding by now, and they need to implement the marketplace into the game. This would also bring certain problems into the light for them, so they can work on it.

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9 minutes ago, Zelmen said:

Just because it not official doesn't mean a large population of traders aren't on there. unofficial just mean DE has no control or responsibilities to it. Avoiding it for the fact its not official you are only hurting yourself. That like saying I'm not going to use the Wiki because it not run by DE. In trade chat I can mark up like 10-20% easy on most items because people don't want to talk to people on warframe.market.

It is my choice to not use an unofficial trade site, I also see no point in it. I have looked, but have not conducted trades based on it, so I know what's there.

Do you know for a fact how many players use warframe.market? I don't think I am hurting myself, I actually do quite well when I decide to sell an item (seller's price).

And marking up a price is just a quick market advantage, and once the item sold, then it's done. Everyone has taken part in market advantage.

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Just now, GnarlsDarkley said:

You can check my warframe.market profile if you want to know. But let me put it this way: I get so many offers to buy them I have to refuse anyone who wants to sell me less than 3 of those per trade. That's also the reason I won't buy trash 6:12 because I will end up with less ducats for the same price

I don't use warframe.market because it is an unofficial, 3rd party site. Most of my sales are based on prices( average of ) I see in trade chat.

And if these are just a couple of easy items that noone wants (hence why it's called trash) that's why they are so cheap. 

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35 minutes ago, GnarlsDarkley said:

Then you have no idea, sorry for being so bold.

Currently you can get 45 ducats items for 2p each...so it will definitely drop to 1p

Which they won't have to do, if they ignore an Auction House. The current system is not perfect but it worked for years now. The only real thing I get from all these threads is "make a different Chat for either WTS and WTB or different chats for Rivens and all other stuff". Filters are not ideal because you can only use one

What are these parts then? Is this their average price? If it is the average price then I don't see a problem here.

They need to fix these problems regardless of a marketplace. 

So you have old broken shoes with holes in them, they're not perfect and you've had them for years, but you don't want new shoes because you think they will have holes and be broken too. 

I have used the Filters in chat, they're okay, but not what I want.

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9 minutes ago, GnarlsDarkley said:

And there you gave the answer to your own thread why Auction Houses are bad.

DE has to change so much just to circumvent this issue. And it is only this one issue. There are still so many different problems I haven't spoken of. Dunno if someone already mentioned, but do you know what whales in trading are? 

Another example: I could by all copies of items I want to regulate, let's say Corrosive Projection. I set up a bot (yes it is possible and won't be recognized as hacking/botting tool) to buy all of the copies below 40p every 20 seconds. Also the bot will sell these copies for 40p.

Bam! Controlled market. 

On the other side: Prime Junk. No one will buy 15 ducats anymore if you can get 45 ducat items for 1p. Trash is even more useless now.

 

They could but as I stated they didn't do it the last years, so why should they start it now?

They need to fix these problems. They are major issues. They can't just keep ignoring the issue, it harms players. 

A marketplace can work, there are problems currently with hand trading. There's going to be problems for anything, everywhere.

Yes I know what whales are. Then the bot would provide suspicious activity and the account would become banned.

Honestly, every Marketplace/Auction House I have been to has worked perfectly.

 

I don't see prime parts becoming 1p each.

Time, Value, Quantity, and Rarity all contribute to the price of an item.

 

They should start now because those are terrible problems. @[DE]Rebecca@[DE]Megan @[DE]Melissa @[DE]Pablo

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10 minutes ago, 0_The_F00l said:

DE Can set up a mechanism to not make trades with fresh bought plat, just enough time for payments to be non refundable before you can trade with others

I could go for that, too.

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9 minutes ago, GnarlsDarkley said:

You still don't get the issue, do you?

Let's make this plain simple.

You sell 5 items worth 10k plat.

I buy 10k plat from DE on a newish account (MR5 is fast, easy and cheap and has 5 trades).

I buy all your stuff and trade this to a friend and charge back my money.

YOU lose 10k plat, while my second account will be banned. Nothing more happens. If you end up in the negative YOU have to buy as much plat as needed to be positive again directly from DE without any Voucher.

 

You see the problem? I can get all your items "for free" while you lose 10k plat and your items with almost no way to get it back. (support is sometimes slow, so if they take more than 14 days they don't have any logs to back you up)

I would imagine a new account buying/obtaining 10k plat immediately would be suspicious. They should flag and watch accounts that do this. 

The marketplace could have a MR level minimum, if most of these people are MR2-MR5, then they could make it MR8+ only.

If you make a trade with the 10k plat, you shouldn't be able to chargeback. It is not in your account anymore, and you no longer have the plat.

You should only be able to chargeback (if you still have the plat amount in your account) because you accidentally bought too much, and even then other websites will flag you for the chargeback. If you chargeback twice, some websites will temp ban you, I think.

IMO better support needs to be provided. 

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It's a really important issue they need to fix. It is very unfortunate to have to deal with that. 🙁 

Well, maybe the trades wouldn't be anonymous, and there could be a recent list of who you traded with (like the recent players list, or their names will just show up on recent players list). This way you could easily report the player. 

I don't think you should have to worry about being banned from the Marketplace, unless you do something wrong. 

Also I'm sorry about that, I hope they get back to you soon

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Here's another previous point I've made:

 

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2 minutes ago, GnarlsDarkley said:

I wish everyone who proposes Auction house ideas that they sell items worth thousands of plat to chargeback people.

Am I mean? - Yes

Do they deserve this? -> Oh of course they do!

Well then..lol

I do know that these things happen, but DE can implement more measures to stop that from happening (if it happens more often than players think).

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14 minutes ago, 0_The_F00l said:

And sorry mate not gonna agree with a fixed pre determined price for a tradeable item as you are suggesting, seller decides sell price if trade is between players. 

I don't see where I stated that an item must have an automatic predetermined price. 

I agree that the seller should be able to choose.

Edit: @0_The_F00l Oh I see the misunderstanding. Yeah I meant "regular price" by seller price, my bad I'm going to fix that.

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1 hour ago, 0_The_F00l said:

The problem with having it in game is that there will need to be a dedicated server to host the persistent data

This should not be a problem since Warframe has grown so large, and DE seems to be doing well. They can get what they need.

1 hour ago, 0_The_F00l said:

1. Make trades anonymous

Yes. I thought it would be good to have anonymous trades, but hand trades aren't anonymous, and trade chat isn't anonymous. It would also be hard to report an anonymous person ( if they did something wrong ). Marketplace trades should not be anonymous, at the moment.

1 hour ago, 0_The_F00l said:

2. Let the auction house take a cut

I'm fine with that. 

1 hour ago, 0_The_F00l said:

3. Ensure all trades are in plat only.

Most players do plat trades all day, so this could work.

1 hour ago, 0_The_F00l said:

4. Limit the number of items that can be auctioned concurrently - pick a number maybe Half your MR + 1?.

I think it should be the current hand trade limits. If you are MR 17, then you can trade 17 items per day.

1 hour ago, 0_The_F00l said:

5. Items cannot be removed unless x time has passed. 

What if you have changed your mind? I think if an item is on there too long it can be removed back to your inventory. 

 

Also please read my post here, it explains some ideas of how this could be implemented/benefits (this is for everyone):

 

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Most players look for the best deal they can get, anyways. They will ask a couple of players for the price, and possibly bargain with that. 

Prices can vary on the same item, it just happens. It happens in any form of trade.

(Also I don't sell my Warframe stuff on 3rd party sites, because that's bannable, and market stuff should be ingame)

The 2nd option can happen, at anytime, regardless of the marketplace. I've seen this happen when I watch trade chat, and even Maroo's Bazaar. 

And if that sale is there, then it will get bought and it isn't permanently in the marketplace. 

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A Marketplace is hardly inefficient. 

BTW my name is spelt GrayFrequency (Since I'm American, it's Gray with an A)

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I have seen what others have said. I happen to disagree with it. 

Marketplaces work very well in most games that implement them.

* It can be an additional type of trade, meaning the other ways won't disappear. This will also preserve the choice of how you want to trade.

* It can be in the form of a trade station relay, similar to Maroo's Bazaar but with trading stations(similar station as the ducat converting machine), to keep interaction.

 Prices will not drop into the dirt, as others think. Instead prices will act as they do now (go up or down based on basics). 

 Prices could all drop into the dirt right now if they wanted to.

I talk about some ideas in my reply here:

 

[Warframe need periodic surveys]

Warframe needs surveys/polls ingame, it would be informative.

This would help DE figure out any issues/content they need work on first.

They could:

     *Have a poll with yes/no questions (for stuff they are considering adding to the game, and other)

     *Specific open ended questions that players could answer/write to

     *Multiple selection check box questions

     *All of these

You would also only be able to see the results after the voting has completed.

(They could show 87% done, but no results until finished.)

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I do not see how a marketplace would be negative to this game. There are many benefits. 

There are also many ways it can be done. Many other games implement a marketplace into the game, and it works perfectly.