VampirePirate
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Wish I can upvote this more than once.
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5 minutes ago, Xardis said:
Now I can ask, what is Lotus? I know, Sentient, but now Ballas has stolen her supposedly having woken Margulis. But she was dead to my knowledge. So was Margulis been a "frame" for Natah?
I'm not a master of Warframe lore, but I suspect that Margulis's conscious was transferred to the body of a Sentient. That's my impression.
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It feels a bit strange but I like the weapon. Fun.
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Put "spoiler" in title
This was a mistake. can't delete it for some reason
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12 minutes ago, LameLaYou said:
Take a look at which aspects of the game power usage limiting mechanics actually come into play and approach this question: does DE not want power spam at all?
Regardless, are the bounties really so difficult that you actually have to spam your CC abilities? Like to the point of raids, or sorties, or whatever high levelled content that DE wants to put in that limitation for power spamming for? Are these units really that hard to deal with?
The reason raids worked in favor of CC was that killing stuff wasn't even a requirement. I mean, if you had a loadout that could clear raid enemies with as little effort as dropping a few CCs, then I'd imagine there'd be no issues with that as well? Why not right? It does the job!
I don't think ghoul bounty missions are all that difficult.
As for Raids, i was just saying that the argument reminded me of them.
You make some interesting points.
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On 11/30/2017 at 11:29 AM, IceColdHawk said:
Excuse me here but i don't think i have to attempt that. It's pretty clear from your posts that you seem to be trolling. But since i want to provide actual feedback and help the cause instead of fighting someone, i'm still giving you one last chance to prove your "logic", should you be not trolling.
What have you said in your "original comment"?
So you honestly thought it's obvious to understand what you want or what your point is when you said "Magnum Force is a corrupted mod"? And? So is Heavy Caliber. So is Narrow Minded, Fleeting Expertise etc. Why shouldn't we NOT expect anything more from it to be more on par with the other corrupted mods as it SHOULD be?
Anyway, i'll kindly answer 2 questions of yours because i actually care about situations like these and like to provide people with insight:
Because Augur Pact and Magnum Force are 2 different kinds of mods. One is a set mod and the other being corrupted. Set mods usually give less of a bonus than their standard counterpart but instead add their "Set Bonus" into it. While corrupted mods allow minmaxing and USUALLY (well, at least should. take it with a grain of salt because it's very inconsistent there) give at least as much stats as their normal counterpart but mostly even more, at the cost of drawbacks. People bother with corrupted mods to boost strengths further at the cost of other qualities. While people bother with Set mods to gain/increase the corresponding Set bonus (which shouldn't be the case here because augur is useless, no beating around the bush here).
Totally not. But that's the minimum where it should be set at. At least it can then be compared with Serration and the likes and actually give a noticable positive amount of damage to what the drawback takes away.
No one is gonna use this mod when a simple standard bane mod or even 60% elemental gives more damage than Magnum Force after taking Hornet Strike into account WITHOUT nerfing your accuracy. That IS a problem. Standard game design fail. And Augur Pact really has nothing to do with it because Magnum Force isn't the only thing being inconsistent and full of nonsense of the corrupted mod category:
^is just another example of failed stats. +48% critical chance is barely noticable whilst the -36% DPS is VERY negatively impactful. Not saying these are gamebreaking problems but these are problems nonetheless and the devs also kinda leave a bad taste in the mouth of players new and old alike with these. Unless there's a good reason why to not fix these problems and increase the quality of the game, there should be no reason for anyone to be against this and hindering others to bring these things to attention, really. Devs having swept problems under a carpet for years for example is not a good reason.
I just now discovered this reply, which is why I am late. Before that, I decided to not revisit this thread. I'll just say this. You made a lot of valid points here. I'm not against the desired changes you or others want with the mods. You claim I'm trolling, yet all the troll comments were already removed.
I'll respond to this quote, since everything else is out order due to removed comments and my responses to some of those comments are missing.
you: "So you honestly thought it's obvious to understand what you want or what your point is when you said "Magnum Force is a corrupted mod"? And? So is Heavy Caliber. So is Narrow Minded, Fleeting Expertise etc. Why shouldn't we NOT expect anything more from it to be more on par with the other corrupted mods as it SHOULD be?"
me: You quote me here, but it's not entirely correct and being misinterpreted. (as far as what things "should be", that's entirely up to what the Devs intended, not you.) After my first comment, i spend the rest of the time explaining why I said that. That's not trolling. Since it was not obvious what i meant, I'll make it simple. I was simply recognizing why people are complaining about these said mods and realizing that the Devs are not going to do anything about it. I believe I said this before. I never said that i expected them to change the said mods or not, or even if i wanted them to or not. it was a simple comment that people could have just left alone if they felt salty about it, but it was not trolling. Basically, if the Devs improve the mods, then wonderful. If not, then it's basically what i thought. They don't care. Saying that the said mods are useless is basically an opinion. I have found use for them. i was not saying that the stats are wonderful. i was saying that there are reasons the Devs made the mods like that. A lot of what i said was misinterpreted or attacked on assumption.
All i can say about it at this point is this. Let's see how long it takes for you to get what you desire. If years go by and this feedback was never noticed or taken into consideration, then that's pretty much the answer you get from the devs. It happened before, on this same subject, and it's probably going to happen again. That was what i meant in the beginning.
Now I am gone.
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2 minutes ago, BlackCoMerc said:
In theory you're right.
In practice, however, the problem is this: the CC everything all the time player will ALWAYS be right in Warframe.
Meanwhile, players who actually want to ENGAGE AND FIGHT enemies will suffer Tedium because the game is designed around making enemies dangerous in the 0.1 second time frame between CC casts...
That's got to change. DE claim they don't want power spam, but punish us for not spamming CC.
This reminds me of Raids
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Interesting.
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8 minutes ago, SubExodus said:
If someone calls you insecure, it's clearly DE's whiteknight. I would just call you naive.
LOL
I guess that's a fair assessment. Not that i completely agree.
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Just now, SubExodus said:
You're too confident considering how many chances community's given DE to get it right on first try (Univac, Mag Rework, Volt Rework, Ash
nerfRework) and they screwed it upHmmm...
On my own thread, i was told i'm insecure. I think the term "positive" would fit better. I honestly don't think it's going to work out, which is why i said "all i can really do is hope..."
Why have "hope" if things are not already bad?
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I'm patiently waiting to see what it is they will actually do, when the update arrives.
I'm not convinced we should panic or not.
All i can really do is hope they do something that works. (Fingers crossed)
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27 minutes ago, -Temp0- said:
You're the on who has no idea what he's talking about.
You literally just observed someone playing a dps frame and come here complaining and saying "help me understand this" when there's nothing to understand, it's just someone playing a demn Mesa. And you just took several issue starting from the fact they "don't aim" - like someone should care about it, "wasting energy" - even though this is what you do with mesa, this is not warframe that pressed 4 and stays in it for long, you pop 4 kill several mobs and then leave the 4, then start again when needed and "get in your way when you already was killing x" - while they simply didn't care about you being there and with high probability didn't even see. While they literally just played the game and didn't think about any of it doing what is natural.
Hmmmm...
Interesting.
None of what you said has anything to do with what i mentioned. You are really reaching for something here.
Strangely it seems you are taking this too seriously and too personal. Lighten up. Have a sense of humor.
If i were actually a stupid person, i would think you were the one behind the Mesa, but you weren't.
I know how to use Mesa. How she is used was not the point. My point was that this particular player puzzled me, and that's really all there is to it.
Thanks for your point of view.
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4 minutes ago, -Temp0- said:
You don't.
All you say "how can someone not care that I'm here doing my thing and instead doing what they want" that's the main thing you're talking about.
Also WF isn't a game where you even 'aim' or where aim has any kind of impact on your gameplay. You can have the worst aim in the world and still use all the weapons even sniper rifles and still kill. I haven't seen a game where aiming was both as bad and as easy at the same time as WF in years that's why many people prefer using (any) kind of powers instead. So if you want to show off your sick aiming skillstm in front of your team you chose the wrong game to begin with.
And since it's mesa, it doesn't matter what weapons you're have on you as long as you mod them so they can be absolutely NOT suited to kill in terms of firerate or anything like that. People often run any secondary that has several formas in it and weapon like opticor to only take down ships in PoE if they also run a dps frame. It doesn't matter and it's absolutely useless topic to discuss "why this guy chose to use powers over guns". Idk wtf you even want to talk about here. It's as stupid as aking why you chose to use guns over powers or why someone chose to use melee over both like asking why someone chose oranges over pineapples.
Yeah. Okay. You totally missed what i was saying, but...
Thanks for your input.
None of this you stated was my thought process at all. And you are right when you said "Idk wtf you even want to talk about here. It's as stupid as aking why you chose to use guns over powers or why someone chose to use melee over both like asking why someone chose oranges over pineapples."
You really don't know what i want to talk about here. The rest of the quote doesn't apply to me or anything i ever said here.
Thanks anyway.
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6 hours ago, FreeWilliam said:
It's called 'HAVING FUN'. There are things to be killed, they're trying to kill them.
This is not happening. Nobody does this. Strangers don't care about you. You're in THEIR way.
You know what doesn't happen? People don't go 'Oh man, I'm about to hit my murder button, but I'd better not kill that thing in case this other rando reads something weird into it'
For both 1 and 2, i think you are right. I tend to assume the same thing.
For 2, if i see someone going for a target, i let them have it and seek targets that need my attention. That's when i am in a cooperative mood. When not, i just shoot whatever and pay no mind to other teammates.
What compelled me to make this thread was how puzzling the Mesa was. It was not like "What the heck man! You took my kill!"
It was more like "what? huh? What are you thinking? Okay you got the kill first. *shrug* whatever."
Also... saying "Strangers don't care about you. You're in THEIR way" can be seen from both sides. Maybe they were in MY way, which is why i was ahead of them in the first place, causing them to run ahead of me. It can be seen both ways, but people getting a kill before i do was not the point of the thread. I don't care about kills. I was just puzzled by what he/she did with Mesa.
Thanks for your point of view.
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4 hours ago, Rakawan said:
It’s not a tactic it’s just bad luck.
Seriously which is more likely?
1.) In a game that emphasizes constant movement and fast kills people just happen to step/land in front of you when trying to close for a kill you also happened to be going for. Said people also happen to do way more damage than is needed just for the fun of it.
Or
2.) Several players have kept careful track of where you stand through a mission, then executed a perfect set of maneuvers to end up in just the right spot to block your path to a specific enemy solely so they could get the kill, which at most would give a paltry amount of affinity and at worst would get them shot instead of you?
I encounter both quite often actually.
1) I tend to assume this is the case, though often times they aren't really doing a lot of damage. I guess they are just showing off. i don't really know.
2) I also find this to be the case sometimes. In some missions there is actually some player, (at least one) literally following me around to get any kill quicker than me. I don't normally think much of it because there is no reward or penalty for this, but sometimes i'm thinking "What is this person thinking or what is he or she trying to accomplish?" i don't really care. Just wanted to discuss it and get other points of view.
Thank you for your point of view.
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4 hours ago, -Temp0- said:
You think too much of yourself.
People just kill ai. That's all there's to it. They don't think about you in that moment believe it or not. They're doing what they always did and what they would be doing playing solo for example. Just kill stuff. And if you're in the way 90% of people if not 100 don't even notice. They see ai they kill ai, simple.
You're both so insecure it should physically hurt.
That's what you got out of all of this, that I'm insecure?
I don't care about kills. I'm talking about aiming. How is it that I'm thinking too much of myself?
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1 hour ago, (Xbox One)ThermalStone said:
Yet again we have someone rushing to the forums to complain about someone else's behavior and the only result is that he makes himself look bad.
1. A properly built Mesa should have enough efficiency/Duration/energy to activate Peacemaker for every single enemy she encounters. It's not a waste or lack of skill. It's the whole point of playing Mesa.
2. Warframe is a cooperative, non stat based game. There is no such thing as kill stealing and if there was it wouldn't change the final outcome/rewards of missions.
3, Can't you shoot around or through your teammates? Did you even try?
4. Someone else is killing or moving faster than you? Get good, kid.
"Yet again we have someone rushing to the forums to complain about someone else's behavior and the only result is that he makes himself look bad."
My reaction to this?
How does this thread make me look bad in any way? I never made a complaint. i made an observation, expressed my thoughts about it, some opinion, and asked the community what they thought about it. I asked to get multiple perspectives and points of view on what could be happening that I may not have considered. This, from my point of view, is intelligence, because I seek knowledge. I never whined about anything. If anything, a person could see humor in it at least, which was also my intention. Guess you missed it. Also i didn't rush to the forum about this. I waited hours, and even thought to not bother, but I thought it would be interesting to post it anyway for said reasons already. Again, how do I look bad?
1) I know about the ability and what it is capable of. I never gave any indication that i did not know. I use Mesa myself. I'm not ignorant about it. I never said that she wasted her powers or showed a lack of skill. I merely mentioned the process of aiming and i used some details so it would be clearly understood what i meant.
2) I know what kind of game Warframe is. This again is assuming ignorance where i showed none. I never said she stole a kill, and frankly i don't care about kill stealing because there is no reward for it. My actual attitude towards the Mesa was "hey, whatever. So long as the mission is completed, and we get this finished, and i get the rewards, i don't really care who gets the kill. I never once complained about kills or kills being stolen.
3) "Can't you shoot around or through your teammates? Did you even try?" That's exactly my point, but you missed it. No, you can't shoot through teammates. That should not even be a question here.
4) "Someone else is killing or moving faster than you? Get good, kid" My reaction to this is...
lol. Are you serious? I never complained about anyone moving faster than me. As you can see in my post, i said i was at the target first. I was the faster one. Mesa was just seconds late, which was why she had to land in front of me to keep me from shooting the target. The target was only 10 meters away and obscured by tall grass, which was why within those seconds i did not get the kill fast enough. It had nothing to do with movement and everything to do with "aiming" as i have made clear in the post. You tell me "Get good, kid?" Do i really seem like a kid to you? Really? Okay, whatever. As for "git gud," well... that same Mesa kept lunging into the fray and getting put down, constantly waiting for me to revive her because she could not take damage from enemies very well. i didn't have that problem. The Mesa mentioned in this mission was quite problematic and the only one on the team that struggled. i guess you would not know that, because you were never there to wines what happened.
...so how does all of this make me look bad?
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POE 4th tier bounty. The team is supposed to kill the last wave of enemies in the area I go rushing towards the last guy to put bullets in him. Suddenly Mesa speeds like a madwoman to beat me to the target, but somersaults through the air only to land right in front of me so I can't shoot the target. Then she activates her 4 and unloads upon the target that's not even a high leveled enemy to begin with.
I often encounter warframes leaping in front of me and parking there just to prevent me from shooting a target i was already shooting or going to shoot, which is ridiculous already, being that a target can be shot from almost any angle if anyone knew how to aim, but for a Mesa to have to use the 4 (at point blank range) when she doesn't even have to aim to kill with that power is quite puzzling to me.
What is the meaning of this? All of it.
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Thanks for the many points of view.
__Conclusion__
So far what i'm getting is that the person playing the Mesa decided to do this tactic, and that is that. Maybe there was a reason or maybe not. Just play the game and shut up. Also what I'm getting, the person with the Mesa just sucked or just sucked at aiming. Hey everyone does this so don't worry about it. There's nothing to contemplate.
And then there is, "hey stop complaining about stealing kills. it's immature."
And i got some really humorous comments that were great.
There were many good points of view. None of them were bad. Some were attempts to be insulting but i don't mind that.
I guess there isn't a true and definite answer. I don't even know what to mark as solved. (Ah what the heck. I'll just grab the first one.)
Regardless. Thanks for the input folks.
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28 minutes ago, NekroArts said:
I thought they were just changing how status procs will work and since Eidolons are immune to procs doesn't that also mean it wouldn't matter?
Exactly
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If you consider the damage changes coming soon, the answer will be... never.
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"...they're either a total newbie or a deliberate troll..."
Overall, it's hard to tell if the problem lies within the warframe(s) or the attitude of the player(s).
The only constant I see is DE remaining content with inventing powers that interfere with other players. It's not as if they are unaware of the outcomes. It feels more like they don't care and therefore will continue this madness. It may even be safe to say that they enjoy the result of torture and confusion it brings, because they obviously have not done anything to rectify it all.
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Looking forward to it.
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On 12/10/2017 at 2:21 AM, Hexvision said:
Just my 2 cents. Eidolon and quills rep farm is a chore due to day/night cycle. Not everybody have excessive time to wait for next cycle. Ranking quills taking ages with boosters and stuff. Sure it's some stuff to keep us occupied but even to gild an amp would take a month I guess. May be more. As itself Eidolon fight seems fun but that wait time is very frustrating.
So you are saying you don't want to have to wait for the night cycle to arrive?
How does this thread make me look bad in any way? I never made a complaint. i made an observation, expressed my thoughts about it, some opinion, and asked the community what they thought about it. I asked to get multiple perspectives and points of view on what could be happening that I may not have considered. This, from my point of view, is intelligence, because I seek knowledge. I never whined about anything. If anything, a person could see humor in it at least, which was also my intention. Guess you missed it. Also i didn't rush to the forum about this. I waited hours, and even thought to not bother, but I thought it would be interesting to post it anyway for said reasons already. Again, how do I look bad?
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Did 3 runs the day before yesterday and got Maiming Strike.
Did 1 run yesterday and got Maiming Strike.