VampirePirate
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4 hours ago, DiBBz said:
ive been playing this game for nearing 5 years now. ive seen the whole ordeal with the games lifespan on grinding for parts etc and how its matured... ive endured the stress and dedication of getting 1 particular warframe. to be exact it was 3ish years ago and it took me a total of 447 runs over the span of a month and 2 weeks to farm ember... YES you heard me correctly ember. and this was when ruk was easy as hell to speed run.
i was fine with that at the time as it was still fun to play. but by the time i was 3 weeks in after reseting my account i had gotten majority of my warframes and had just the last few building. along with 2 others i still had to get.
this is what caused me to go into the greatest absence from the game ive ever had through out the games journey. a total of 5 months i left the game before coming back. im fine with every means of DE making money. but to this extend its simply not a good business practice. the update has been out for what more or less a week and a half at this point. ive done T1-2-3 bounties about 25 times each give or take and still have nothing.
the reward structure and how they reward you for your time is a joke for a system which plays homage to back in the day which the game was renowned for incredibly random RNG.
first it was nitain to extend out grind then it was relics to further extend out grind. now its bounties to even further and FURTHER extend out grind.. and they do this by adding a 3x3km world to explore which increases travel time and majority of the mission structure being hold this position and defend this etc etc. im sorry you can play the sucking game all you want but this business practice more or less destroys a playerbase. as they feel they might not being reward for a particular thing they are trying to aim for. warframes peak and average playerbase on steam is all ready dropping daily at a steady pace. especially considering it thrusts you into the plains pretty early in game.
so where does that leave me then. furax wraith. which ive still yet to see the right gauntlet and get the blueprint. the more times you run it the more you realize its not worth it in its current state to even run it. so what it means i go back to doing teralyst captures and sorties/raids. everyone is all ready capping their standing with quils and ostrons so give or take by the time next week we will see a drastic fall out in current players.
PoE and gara is just another masking of DE's plan to further make the game a living nightmare to farm stuff in. for a game thats been and is still being praised for "F2P done right" is now slowly turning into "Maybe not doing it right now"
roughly 4% of people i know in the alliance and clan im apart of has actually farmed gara and maybe 10% have bought her within the first week of farming her. and while granted while people may agree to disagree with me or have their own opinions. the fact of the matter is majority of veterans will go back to do what they where doing before. playing other games and only coming back at 5 to do sorties & do their reset raid. and when the new people catch up to the point where they want to farm gara majority will follow suit as they might feel pressured into buying the frame.
So you understand. You comprehend.
As I said, people may not like DE's business tactics in getting money from players, but what can players do about it? However, players putting money into the game is not why DE is making the grind harder (after promising in every other devstream to lessen grind). This is a pattern that happens with a lot of online games. Corporate mindset. Remember, DE was bought by a corporate entity. They have a boss now, more or less. As a business, they have to satisfy the interests of all partners/investors involved. A keen person would take a look at what happens to games when PWE touches them, and then it becomes clear.
The nitain thing for example: POE is that times ten from my point of view. I also find it ridiculous, which is why I decided to not put money into the game and just sell items for plat. I just can't be concerned with what other players do, because it is an issue i have no power to influence or control. All I can do is take care of self and make things easier for me.
If DE loses its playerbase, that is DE's problem, not the players. It is ultimately up to the players to decide how to continue on or not continue on with this game. Also, all things come to an end eventually, and that includes Online Games. I can't be too worried about that. There will always be another game available, and then the same crazy patterns will follow suit, and then that game will die also. A recent one comes to mind -- Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex -- First Assault Online.
It's just how it is.
Now about your comment on me "playing the sucking game". I'm not sucking or sucking up to anything. Just stating facts. As I said before, you can interpret my comments however you want. It's just guessing at this point unless you ask me questions.
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Thank you very much.
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Just now, LABAL said:
So you need not the information, but a basis for argument.
Something like that. Not that i want to argue about anything. He said Loki and Commander, but he only talked about the Commander.
I wanted him to make it relevant. I see the Loki power as a troll ability, which seems to be more for annoying teammates rather than helping. I would rather they fix this feature or replace the ability completely. Still, I did not see how it was relevant to the Commander's ability other than being a nuisance. If that was all he meant by it, then i guess i have my answer.
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1 hour ago, LABAL said:
Loki has the same skill, but his version is vastly inferior, only stunning the target for a fraction of a second, while the grineer Commander stuns the player for five whole seconds, with only one required to kill most warframes with the focused fire of all the surrounding enemies.
I'm completely aware of what that ability does. I asked the question to get him to talk about it, because the only thing he mentioned was the Commander.
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You mentioned Loki but did not say anything about him. How does he fit into all of this?
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2 hours ago, Madotsuki said:
^This
What some people don't seem to understand is that it doesn't matter if you're the one who paid the money or not, SOMEONE paid real money to create that plat, and when it stops circulating among players and goes into the game market, that plat is deleted and DE cashes in (figuratively speaking). It doesn't matter who paid with plat, if it's a plat sell, that means real money currency is taken out of the player community permanently and someone's going to have to pay for more. So it doesn't matter if YOU didn't pay money, a plat sale is a plat sale, and when DE sees that statistic they're gonna see they're successfully strong-arming players into forking out plat and KEEP DOING IT FOR ALL FUTURE CONTENT.
The only way to make DE dial their strong-arming tactics back down is through statistics. Less players bothering to access the gated new content, less sales, less active players at all even. It's like how people keep complaining about companies like EA shoving nickle-and-dime tactics into their games but buys the games anyway. If the company keeps getting money, if they don't see an actual change in player behavior, THEY WON'T CARE.
You don't know what it is i understand or not. To help you out, I'll just say this. I don't care if other players are spending their money or not. Everyone that plays Warframe is (i assume) capable of making a mature decision to spend money on the game or not. If players ever felt tempted and do so, that is their problem and not DE's. No one forced them to shell out cash. Also it is not hard to say, "Hey i don't want to put money into this game." It's not hard to say, "Hey, i don't want to get Gara. I don't have to have it."
I got her and i did it the way i chose to. I made a decision. i refuse to let anybody on this forum harass me about my decision on this. Yeah, sure, you have your opinions and that's fine. Do what you want with your money. Other's are going to do the same. No one is forcing you to play Warframe and no one is forcing you to fork out cash.
Someone implied that i am weak-willed. i don't know about that... because it seems to me that people that complain about being "strong-armed" are people suffering from weak-mindedness. I mean, why else are you on here complaining about it? DE has to make money somehow, whether you like it or not.
Yeah sure, I decided not to grind, but i'm not crying about it either. All I did was give a testimony relative to the thread topic.
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3 hours ago, shinydunsparce said:
Someone bought that plat, and all DE sees is that someone bought the frame with plat. The more people who do that, the more grindy they make acquiring the frames for free. If you're so loaded with dosh and strapped for time, why didn't you just buy it in the first place? That's why you seem impatient, you tried and gave up.
I already explained it. ...and whoever up-voted you shares the same lack of comprehension as you. As I said, you can interpret what i said however you want. You're just wrong.
You have to understand that DE is running a business and not a salvation army. They have to make money somehow. Warframe is a game that grants everything for free except cosmetics. That's saying a lot. Most games implement lockboxes, which are a complete ripoff. Would you rather they do this instead? People that buy plat are keeping this game alive, but people like yourself have the nerve to complain about that because you are too cheap to support Warframe financially. (If you can't, then that's a completely different issue.) That does not give you the right to judge players that can financially support this game. What's worst is you attempt to attack me for using my brain in a clever manner to get Gara. That seems to be the shining thing that irritates you. i shouldn't even have to explain all this to you.
Now you may not like how DE goes about getting money from players, but ultimately it is their choice what to do with their franchise. Nothing you can do about it. From what i can tell, this thread is turning into a crusade against DE's business tactics, and I can tell you right now that it's only going to work against you in the end. (Heck you might as well go on a crusade about every business tactic ever performed by any company of any industry, because they all use these tactics to pull money out of you.) Anyway... you can either waste your time crying about it on the forum or waste your time playing Warframe and cry about that. Either way, you are just wasting your time.
I pretty much don't care to hear anymore about your argument at this point. It's meaningless to me.
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1 minute ago, shinydunsparce said:
And DE wins again. Why do you think they make it so grindy? To make weak-willed players give in and buy it with plat.
First of all. I'm not weak-willed. Let's just get that one straight. I made a mature decision to sell something i had that i made no use of and got plat for it. People do that all the time. it's called buying and selling, or most commonly, trading.
Secondly, I consider my time valuable. What i choose to do with my time is my business and my life. i wish not to waste it on grinding in an online game when i can do something else with my time.
Thirdly, i lost nothing for doing this. I did not lose money and I did not lose time. That's a win-win. I find it strange that you can't see that.
In addition, i posted my testimony in relation to the topic of this thread. Take it how ever you want to, but... obviously the point was to discuss of as you say "so grindy" this game is.
I would advise you to watch your words and give careful thought before typing something like this. I'm not the one that looks foolish here. (And no DE did not win in my book, because i'm not spending a single penny on this game).
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I got two of her parts in one day, then tried for it again for two days and got the last part. I saw how much it would take to build those parts and was like "hell no". I sold stuff, got the plat, and bought the warframe. Problem solved. I'll build her for a secondary version maybe, when i finally have all the materials, but i'm not going to make myself grind the fun out of the game for Gara. No thanks.
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1 hour ago, Irogiash said:
Frost Prime, Ivara, Valkyr Prime, Saryn Prime.
I own all four of these but I can't quite decide which one to main. Which one is your favorite to have on your team and or is the most useful in late game content?
Thanks Guys.
Extra Context Edit: I know what you guys mean by you don't main in Warframe, I've just always been the type to focus on 1 as my favorite. I was just wondering which ones would scale the best since I don't want to invest a lot of time into something only to figure out it was a bad choice later! So far I like Saryn play style the most I'm just a little worried about her late game viability. If you have any other warframes to recommend let me know. I like the types that can do all types of content pretty well and have some versatility. I don't much care for Spy Missions though. I've heard good things about Titania.
You are asking us to tell you something that no one can.
Decide what warframe to use and learn to master it in your style of gameplay.
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This is why i only use Titania if I want Archwing in POE.
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I created ticket about this for anyone that may not be able to contact Support. Hopefully it helps.
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i think these indicators will help the trinity players.
...and I'm sick of begin switch-teleported with no logical reason.
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I just discovered this myself. Just now.
So it wasn't my imagination after all.
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1) Enemy/Player Distance Indicators
I think it would be a great benefit to have an indicator near the name of players and enemies showing how far or close they are. This is something that has bugged me for a long time. I think it would be helpful to have this.
2) Toggle: Allow Troll Power
In the options menu, we can switch on or off the result of troll powers being used on us. What I mean by "troll power" is in example, a abusive or incompetent player using teleport switch on another player. I personally experience the abuse of this power almost each time I'm teamed up with a Loki. This should go for Limbo and any other i have not mentioned.
3) Operators: More freedom of movement
They move in a static way, which comes off sort of catatonic. I imagine that they can move around better than they do now, being that they are human. Especially being that they are the ghost within a warframe. Why portray them as being seemingly handicapped. They aren't warframes but i imagine they can fight and do acrobatic things too, just not as well as a warframe.
4) (feel free to mention something. i will list it.)
Thank you.
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it's a bug. something devs should only see. it pops up sometimes regardless.
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That's blasphemy!
j/k
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1 minute ago, Marvelous_A said:
Brilliant idea terrible implementation. Like all updates lately.
That right there.
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A better idea is some way to contribute our excessive amount of resources to those in need.
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Someone probably reported you.
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1 minute ago, puppycorpse said:
Well considering that they are starting to make the operator more usable I'm guessing a future quest or somthi g will make them more powerful. It seems as the storyline progresses your operator becomes stronger.
Yeah, seems like it.
I think Operators will be wonderful if granted a full range of motion for animation. Right now they move in a stiff fashion.
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34 minutes ago, (PS4)ArtPrince17 said:
What? No, lol. @Thaylien literally just explained to you that they did listen. They explained that they do have plans to change the ability ion the future, but it's not a serious problem so they haven't taken any action yet. And why are you accusing him of taking it seriously when he's literally just stating facts. You put a comment. He stated facts. Simple as that.
Yeah i did the same, but somehow i got two guys on me now. You're not listening either, or reading rather. It's probably because you didn't take what I said as a whole. The point i made was that Mirage's said ability has been an issue for quite a long time, and after many discussions about it, they still have not done something with it. The point was, they could have fix the problem long ago, and they didn't. It's an old issue, is basically what I'm saying. Now that POE is out, its even more of an issue.
We are all putting comments on this thread, but i guess you two seem to favor targeting mine. *shrug* Back to life. Later.
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2 minutes ago, Thaylien said:
... I'm saying that you can't say you were ignored when they clearly did recognise the opinions and the discussions...
Let me help you out here. When you say things like this, it proves to me that you don't get it. You can reread everything i typed earlier. I never said i was "ignored". I never said they "do not recognize" the opinions and discussions, etc. I only said one word, and that word seems to bother you a whole lot. I said they refuse to listen. I even explained what i meant, which should not have been taken as serious as you are taking it now. Yeah it's white knighting, because you wish to argue over an opinion (for the sake of defending DE) rather than go about your business, when clearly you will believe what you want anyhow. I honestly don't care what they do with Mirage. I stopped caring long ago. All i did was make a comment on a forum to someone that may not have understood what happened with Mirage in the past. ...So with that said, I'm going to leave it at that and find something else to do besides explain myself to you.
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22 minutes ago, Thaylien said:
Guys, DE don't refuse to listen, they have a schedule and different teams dedicated to the projects underway. It hasn't been Mirage's turn for a revisit yet, that's all.
Plains of Eidolon was a huge update, and after this The Sacrifice is another. And then there's the fact that other frames are in a far, far worse state than Mirage. Four out of 'the worst five' have been looked at, where Banshee got her Prime, Limbo got a full rework, Oberon and Hydroid got revisits and their Primes, the only one out of that era now is Zephyr, she's older than Mirage and arguably far worse off. So the rework team will likely look at the air caster first, not the jester.
But all frames will get looked at, depending on their release dates, their condition among the fans, and so on. She's on the list. Just a little further down the list.
There's also a simple fact you're going to have to recognise; DE have stated that, since the backlash over Limbo and the amount of time it takes to add new abilities, or replace old ones with a new one, no frames are going to get new abilities and all reworks are going to be done within the existing frame's skill set.
That's why Oberon and Hydroid didn't get any of the (sometimes amazing and well thought out, sometimes bizarrely unbalanced) new abilities suggested by the community.
I would take your word for it, except... it's not completely true. Mirage's skill was an issue the day she was released. That was long before all this stuff you mentioned came up. The main issue was that Sleigh of Hand has no usefulness at all, and DE recognized it, but they refuse to do anything about it. She was supposed to be dealt with long ago, when this was originally discussed. No need to white knight it, especially when something like POE launches. This shows how serious the issue is at this point. That's the point i was coming from, but i didn't think i would have to explain it. Seems i was wrong.
How do I keep up? Speed wise?
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You just need practice.
Some of us have been doing this for years.
I used to go solo and practice parkour through the map and learn how I can best use the environment to my acrobatic advantage (even in battle). I even practice in my dojo, leaping and flying and never touching the ground. In the past, i would start a solo mission in survivor and not activate the computer until i was ready. With that i would practice on walls and other objects. Now and today, you can start a mission like that. The game will activate the mission and spawn enemies for you after a time.
There are still other means of practicing without worrying too much about enemies.
Do this, and you will eventually keep up with other players. Also a keen keybind setup will help, and i'm not talking about macros. For example, i make C button on my keyboard be the non-toggle crouch function. Then i make ctrl be the toggle crouch function.