LAWD Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 So should Revenant be the only one be able to kill His Thralls? It has more benefits than disadvantages imo. Right now enthralling a eximus stops the energy drain nd buffs yu, until your ally kills it or the duration runs out. I believe he would perform much better if he were the only one able to kill the thralls since they are technically allies, friendly-fire should be on for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TheRallykiller Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 The other idea I had was that as Thralls were hit, they wouldn't lose health, but instead would be put into a rage/berserk. IMHO this could set up a nice syndicate mod for the ability, AND would encourage melee contact with thralls for them to be really effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synpai Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 The thralls would have to take damage over time to be invulnerable to allies (to avoid trolling or overall pace interruption), but I think there are better compromises than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen_Echo Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Ever heard about the main problem of Nyx mind control? Theres a reason why many hate it and that is the fact that it can slow down an otherwise fast mission to snail tempo. Currently the best change would be improving on the after effect of the Thralls. For example lets empower the vampire and the ediolon theme: IF a thrall is killed by an ally it leaves back a red fountain what if touched by the revenant grants 50 overheal to anybody within 10 meters, IF its killed by revenant it leaves a vomalyst bloom continously draining health from enemies for 10 seconds, when the duration end its spawns an allied sentient based on the amount of health drained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquinkyJunior Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, Fallen_Echo said: Ever heard about the main problem of Nyx mind control? Theres a reason why many hate it and that is the fact that it can slow down an otherwise fast mission to snail tempo. Well, that doesn't really matter, because when in a defense, for example, the waves finish even when he still has thralls up. I may be wrong on that, but I'm pretty sure that's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen_Echo Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 hours ago, SquinkyJunior said: Well, that doesn't really matter, because when in a defense, for example, the waves finish even when he still has thralls up. I may be wrong on that, but I'm pretty sure that's true. Not from what i seen soo far, having a thrall still counts as an enemy but im gonna test that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure98 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 hours ago, SquinkyJunior said: Well, that doesn't really matter, because when in a defense, for example, the waves finish even when he still has thralls up. I may be wrong on that, but I'm pretty sure that's true. This is true. The Enemy internally is handled like any other ally/specter and will not halt the pace of a mission or stall mission completion. They WILL however take up spawn slots like Nekros' Shadows of the Dead, but considering just how many spawn slots are in a mission with other players this could be a non-issue. Enthrall is more beneficial in Solo than with Teams but at the same time the bonus of gaining Overshields falls off as enemy scaling gets higher and it just becomes Selective Removal and aggro draw as enemies seem to prioritize targeting Thralls over the Revenant even if Revenant is the closest target. It's still effective at what it does and my personal issue with Revenant is the Reave skill. Outside of enhanced healing on Thralls which the base heal value is already plenty high enough considering the hordes of enemies that rush you later doesnt have very much synergy to its overall kit and currently clashes with Mesmer Armor which negates damage and CCs enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAWD Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 17 hours ago, Fallen_Echo said: Ever heard about the main problem of Nyx mind control? Theres a reason why many hate it and that is the fact that it can slow down an otherwise fast mission to snail tempo 17 hours ago, SquinkyJunior said: Well, that doesn't really matter, because when in a defense, for example, the waves finish even when he still has thralls up. I may be wrong on that, but I'm pretty sure that's true. this is true actually, Thralls are just like Nekros' shadows and dont interrupt the pace at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance.Stubbs Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 I feel like they shouldn't take damage from abilities. Saryn/Mesa/Octavia/Equinox nuking the map ignoring enemy levels up to an absurd count really discourage me to use Enthrall for anything that isn't a panic button with occasional eximus popping out of the corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaZeku Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 How 'bout this? When killed, a Thrall turns into / produces a spectral form (you know, like Vomvalysts) for the remaining duration, impervious to anything except Void damage. The kill would also immediately make the enemy drop loot / count as dead for Exterminate / etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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