TehZander2 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Is The Dera Worth Formaing?I just recently made the Dera and I know that most of the End Game Dera builds use about 4 Forma. But I heard that the Dera is mainly a "Corpus Killer" and I'm looking for more of an all-round type of weapon. Since I get most of my Forma from voids, I don't want to go and waste it all. Opinions on if the Dera truly is just a Corpus Killer or if It can be used as an all-round End Game weapon would be appreciated. Also, I just wanted to get some opinions to see if I should Forma (or even potato) the Dera, or if I should just use it for the mastery then let it collect dust and use something like the Strun Wraith for example. Feel free to post screenshots of your builds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkabakin11 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 All around? No. Corpus? Meh. Flux is a way better choice if you are looking for all around, and it is just more fun to play with imo. I would not waste a forma on dera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutionZero Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) Look, the most important thing would be to forma the Dera if YOU personally like it. If you don't, do not Forma it simple. I, personally, love the Dera. Well-modded, potato'd, and it shreds through all factions like butter (Forma'd once). Just depends on how you build it. Braton Prime is also a good alt to Dera and good all-around. Flux is a given OP All Around Weapon. No argument there tbh. Edited September 11, 2013 by AbsolutionZero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Do you enjoy the Dera? If yes - Try 1 Forma If no - No Forma If HELL YEAH MAN - 4 Forma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProjectKaeon Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 In the wiki it says it's bad against Grineer It's probably decent against Infested And I guess it's the best against Corpus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenutReaper Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Honestly, I'd say it's up to you. I know that isn't very helpful, but ask yourself, do you have anything you want to forma/potato instead? You may want to wait till Friday, to see what they throw at us. Got to say, I am a big fan of the Dera though. Mines had a potato and a forma, and it'll probably add another forma, because why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volt_Cruelerz Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 The two best general-purpose AR's (ignoring the issues with armor) are the Braton Prime and the Dera. I love the accuracy and the projectile nature of the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStag Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Braton Prime is slightly better than the Dera, but the Dera is a great rifle. If you like it, go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumireaver Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 "Should I commit to a long term investment in XYZ right now?" U10 is rolling out soon and armor changes might change shake things up significantly. Logically, it's a bad time to commit to anything. The Dera shoots lasers though, so the answer should be clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeless Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 It's not bad vs corpus and infested but be sure to aim the weak spots for corpus tech and ancients. Dera is very fun and the underdog of all the dojo weapons. If you love aiming or hitting 100% accurately, USE IT!... and if u use Volt's electric shield, you will love the hitscan effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General_Krull Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 use volt, put puncture mod on dera, cast shield. Rip em all to shreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MageMeat Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Wait for the U10 changes to damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althix Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 puncture is working on dera now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) Dera is one of my favorite Primary weapons. i have spent a few Forma on it. i enjoy using it at all times. i could reload it forever and not get bored, and it's also very Tactile for me. does it kill the fastest? no. do i care? no. but it's your decision. just remember to ignore all the people that say no and point to Flux, Acrid, Ogris, or something else that's not relevant to an opinion discussion. on a side note, it's somewhat subpar effectiveness against Grineer can be countered for up to ~lv80 Grineer if you use a Grineer Smite card. that 30% combats armor pretty reasonably. and for Corpus, if you have even just 15% bonus elec damage, Dera will wreck Corpus. it's pretty effective even without, but with... Infested having just health and generally little in the way of resistances, get destroyed by Dera pretty quickly, because it's an Assault Rifle style weapon, meaning DPS is generally very high, and it's still effective against larger groups. against Ancients, if you shoot weakpoints it should do alright if you have fire damage. though ~lv80 ancients are going to take most of an entire magazine to kill it. do remember, U10 will certainly make Dera more effective. puncture is working on dera now? puncture works on everything now, i hear. i haven't gotten around to testing bolt weapons yet though. every other type, i have and, yes. Edited September 11, 2013 by taiiat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General_Krull Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 puncture is working on dera now? Yes but for supra, lanka and dera it's bugged when used with volt shield. You get the normal hitscan effect but your normal bullets penetrate the shield meaning you shoot 2 or 4 projectiles per 1 shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althix Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 puncture works on everything now, i hear. what? even on supra? damn it... if puncture were working on dera couple of months ago i would use it instead of braron, because dera looks badass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althix Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) Yes but for supra, lanka and dera it's bugged when used with volt shield. You get the normal hitscan effect but your normal bullets penetrate the shield meaning you shoot 2 or 4 projectiles per 1 shot. ssshhhhht Edited September 11, 2013 by Althix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General_Krull Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 ssshhhhht You can kill phorid in under 3 seconds with properly modded supra and volt shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_Case001 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 All around? No. Corpus? Meh. Flux is a way better choice if you are looking for all around, and it is just more fun to play with imo. I would not waste a forma on dera. this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grilleds Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Its not a particularly great weapon, even after getting buffed a few times. But it is fun to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutilar Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I formad a cronus for S#&$s & giggles. So is Dera worth forma-ing? Most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltik0ne Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 It's a fun gun, as others have stated, but it's down to personal choice. Flux is a better gun right now, after the armour rebalance, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servanin Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 It does reduced damage to both Grineer and light infested - Think against the starting chargers in Xini, it was hitting for 14 damage unmodded, when it's base damage is 22. The only advantage of laser damage is it can hit Corpus heads without puncture, but Corpus already go down really easily by just shooting them in the body. Techs aren't as common as heavy grineer and they have lower HP/defense. Honestly even the standard Braton is probably a better weapon - Hit scan triumphs non hit scan even with Dera's no recoil. I still want to like it because its a laser gun though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr1ples1xer Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 It's a fun gun, as others have stated, but it's down to personal choice. Flux is a better gun right now, after the armour rebalance, who knows. Oh noes im scared now, flux owns !! fav gun ever, have 5 forma on it still can't wait for U10 :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grilleds Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 It does reduced damage to both Grineer and light infested - Think against the starting chargers in Xini, it was hitting for 14 damage unmodded, when it's base damage is 22. The only advantage of laser damage is it can hit Corpus heads without puncture, but Corpus already go down really easily by just shooting them in the body. Techs aren't as common as heavy grineer and they have lower HP/defense. Honestly even the standard Braton is probably a better weapon - Hit scan triumphs non hit scan even with Dera's no recoil. I still want to like it because its a laser gun though. This pretty much sums it up. The Dera looks nice, but even after getting buffed a few times (used to do 7 damage a shot with 1/4 projectile speed), its just a crappier Braton that can shoot Corpus heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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