tdshooter Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 i think we can all agree that making the derelict the only way to obtain mutagen samples was a horrible idea i know it was just to give the derelict a purpose other than nekros i totally get that but i still think that its a bad idea and i hope itl be changed back soon as for other things DE could do to make the derelict more relevant i dont really have any ideas but whoever reads this could of course post their ideas as responses to this or make their own topics or something whatever you wanna do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niryco Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 i think we can all agree that making the derelict the only way to obtain mutagen samples was a horrible idea i know it was just to give the derelict a purpose other than nekros i totally get that but i still think that its a bad idea and i hope itl be changed back soon as for other things DE could do to make the derelict more relevant i dont really have any ideas but whoever reads this could of course post their ideas as responses to this or make their own topics or something whatever you wanna do Or maybe the fact that orokin Derelict is a Infested Tileset? Although i don't know why grineers pop onto it at times, but the derelict isn't like those normal crossover tileset that we see that is littered with spores to justify the presence of infested. They should do something similar to the current planets and don't treat them as progressive content but instead treat planets and their missions as side work, art, since the real deal is in the lore which is still in works and well fighting infested bosses on orokin derelict like maps will provide and atmosphere unfelt before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Ed Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 They reduce the time it takes to get keys. If they added mobile defense to the OD mission types i think we would be ok. Its really no different than picking between 3-4 planets that offer mutagens, endless your having problems with crafting mats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinestomper Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 i just wish there was more to offer with the dere keys.... i say that just b/c i got nekros 3 for 3, so i didnt need to farm for more keys... but if there were weapon plans or just something else to make it seem more justifiable basically i think im getting to the point to make them like void missions... but with more infested loot, which is what the clan weapons should have been... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienOvermind Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I think all we need is yet another purpose for derelict voids. My wishlist for derelict is like: 1) Orokin cells droprate buff (like control modules in normal void) 2) Derelict-exclusive mods 3) Derelict-exclusive weapons - for example new clantech infested weapons would fit well for derelict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatolius Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 The grineer pop up because there is still salvageable material most likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacedkadet Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Derelicts would be ALOT better if it didnt break your party up afterwards!!! But then again so would the void! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althix Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 3) Derelict-exclusive weapons - for example new clantech infested weapons would fit well for derelict i know those: Dual Ichor, Synapse, Embolist and Djinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xGryphus Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I think that making mutagen samples Orokin derelict exclusive it was good idea and I sincerely hope that they will do the same with rest of resources although I don't quite much like the way it was implemented - I was hoping that replayable derelict Orokin vessels missions will pop up in like Fomorians although with random objective. Now when I think about this it would be awesome if nav coordinates would allow to access them just like corruptors did. The only key that could be left is assassination. I think all we need is yet another purpose for derelict voids. My wishlist for derelict is like: 1) Orokin cells droprate buff (like control modules in normal void) 2) Derelict-exclusive mods 3) Derelict-exclusive weapons - for example new clantech infested weapons would fit well for derelict 1 and 2 - couldn't agree more.3 - since clan bioweapons require mutagen samples and mutagen samples are exclusive to OD you can say that clan bioweapons are OD exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienOvermind Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 3 - since clan bioweapons require mutagen samples and mutagen samples are exclusive to OD you can say that clan bioweapons are OD exclusive. Ah, yeah, fair enough. Infested clantech weapons are already sort of derelict-exclusive. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro3Display Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Derelicts would be ALOT better if it didnt break your party up afterwards!!! But then again so would the void! i cant understand why they cant make a "planet"(void vortex etc etc), which missions would consume a key after it completed that would simplify keys to 1 key, which will simplify drop tables by removing excessive items from the list and we all know that less items - higher the chance. (rewards would be defined not by the key but by the mission on that "planet" then) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neruell Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 ^ First time to see someone asking for more RNG... wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro3Display Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) ^ First time to see someone asking for more RNG... wow read carefully pls i said: the less items you can get rewarded in 1 instance the higher the chance u will get the one you want (this statement does not involve grace of rng god and defined only by numbers) Edited September 25, 2013 by Pro3Display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatose Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 i cant understand why they cant make a "planet"(void vortex etc etc), which missions would consume a key after it completed that would simplify keys to 1 key, which will simplify drop tables by removing excessive items from the list and we all know that less items - higher the chance. (rewards would be defined not by the key but by the mission on that "planet" then) This would be a big help, I think. The problem with the Derelict isn't merely keys, but that you have to put together a group, and invite them all for each and every run. With something like the regular void, that's fine - those are a big deal. Farming resources really shouldn't be, and this setup make it inconvenient to run the derelict. Not hard, just annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubbi Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 If you ask me the way it should be: -Grinier drop detonite ampule -corpus drop fieldron sample -infested drop mutagen That simple. It makes sense. Those 3 drops should not be determined by the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlasNine Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 If you ask me the way it should be: -Grinier drop detonite ampule -corpus drop fieldron sample -infested drop mutagen That simple. It makes sense. Those 3 drops should not be determined by the planet. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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