FabuloustheGardevoir Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) I think there's a missed opportunity here for better progression of the 'Intrinsic' system here. Some of these attributes are QoL, or are so essential that they ought to be part of every Railjack Crew's arsenal from the get-go, others are bland bonuses. So I thought: Why not make another tier of 'Focus Schools', but for Railjack ops instead? Something like "House Academies", to which I've already developed a basic system that hopefully could be discussed. House Lavan: believes that victory is certain in hindering the enemy war machine through strategic destruction of enemy operations, subterfuge, and use of the least cost for maximum effect; bonuses for archwing- and warframe-centered gameplay Tactical Void Teleport: can warp to a crewmember; first few seconds of warp-in puts user in cloak, amplifying damage of the first weapon attack or ability strength of the first warframe ability; consumes flux energy, and has cooldown (higher levels use less flux energy and reduced cooldown) Stasis Field: for the first several seconds enemy boarders enter the ship, movespeed and attackspeed are significantly slower Piloting Archwing Optimization: increased archwing speed/health/shields/ability efficiency Lavan Warp: vector maneuver and drift launch instantly teleports ship Lavan Drift: boosting cloaks the ship for reduced speed (higher levels increase cloaked speed); first few seconds after exiting cloak, either by stopping boost or firing pilot weapons, increases weapon status chance & critical chance Gunnery Fighter Doctrine: increases damage, critical chance and status chance of arch-gun and arch-melee Void Slingshot: increases slingshot effective range, bonus damage for point-of-impact and a duration afterwards, and direct slingshot into the room of a crewship/base with the objective nukes enemies on arrival Engineering Lavan Ingenuity: reduce resource cost for forging items, and chance to successfully forge items even without the resources to do so Lavan Resourcefulness: repair hazards without consuming Revolite, but at slower speed House Vidar: believes that victory is found in combined arms warfare, the perfect balance of ground support and space superiority to give the enemy no room to breathe in the theatre of war; bonuses for both archwing and railjack gameplay Tactical Rapid Deployment: can warp to a crewmember; first few seconds of warp-in grants user bonus to movespeed, attackspeed, and ability casting speed; consumes flux energy, and has cooldown (higher levels use less flux energy and reduced cooldown) Nightmare Field: for first few seconds enemy boarders enter the ship, chance each second for enemy boarders to be hit with radiation proc Piloting Vidar Maneuver: vector maneuver and drift launch briefly increases ship armor and barrier Spacial Radiator: boosting increases turret heat capacity, ordnance projectile speed and refire rate, artillery charge speed and refire rate, and overall weapon status chance and duration Gunnery Suppressive Fire: splash effect with increasing radius is applied to nearby enemies on ship weapons and arch-gun hits Glaive Slingshot: destroying an enemy ship through slingshot immediately bounces user to another enemy within range for a certain number of bounces, prioritizing lower health ones until boarding a crewship as last Engineering Forge Optimization: reduces cooldown of Forge and chance to forge items without using up resources What Doesn't Kill: repairing certain hazards will grant bonuses for the ship for a duration Critical Hull Breech = longer invincibility duration, railjack weapons have bonus damage Hull Breech = railjack weapons have bonus total damage Fire Hazard = railjack weapons deal bonus incendiary damage Electrical Hazard = railjack weapons deal bonus ionic damage Cold Hazard = railjack weapons deal bonus frost damage Toxin Hazard = railjack weapons deal bonus chemical damage House Zetki: believes that victory is achieved through utter space superiority by powerful weaponry and superior skill, followed by generous orbital bombardment from long-range artillery; bonuses for railjack-centered gameplay Tactical Immortal Insertion: can warp to a crewmember; first few seconds of warp-in makes user invincible; consumes flux energy, and has cooldown (higher levels use less flux energy and reduced cooldown) Damage Field: for first several seconds enemy boarders enter the ship, they deal less damage while taking more damage Piloting: Zetki Maneuver: ramming into enemies during a vector maneuver or drift launch will deal ionic and ballistic damage proportional to ship's total shields and health respectively. Zetki Momentum: boosting buffs turn rate and turret/ordnance/artillery damage Gunnery Void Sniper: increased turret/ordnance/artillery range; increased critical chance and critical damage while aiming Overheat Redistribution: higher turret heat increases turret damage and can still fire briefly during overheat Surgical Bombardment: firing artillery at certain objectives within range will bypass obstacles, kill assassination targets, or provide room-wide artillery damage to all enemies near the objective Engineering Power House: increases output of Forge for same cost of resources Quantum Payload: can output more Forge items above the usual storage limit Edited February 7, 2020 by FabuloustheGardevoir 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Silverback73 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) “Houses” to me seem more like “countries” or even independent military contractors. They could have a family/clan structure that spans generations, sure, but seem to be builders and engineers of military hardware and not actual Soldiers. Your points have merit, but making Void-Space something that everyone casually interacts with is a tricky thing. Edited February 2, 2020 by (PS4)Silverback73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanaukas Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Whatever is better than the systen we have right now. I stopped caring a long time ago by that, RJ is still having a lot of issues. I like the mode, dont get me wrong, but farming instrinsics is a nightmare. The only "reliable" way to gwt them is doing stealth kills and then aborting and then going again. Im not gonna do that S#&$, Im gonna max them when the system is more polished. I even have everything I want on mk3, every avionic I want at max, every grid maxed too... But intrinsics are pure hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veridian Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Up to feedback you must go. Great, this idea is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EzioTheEagle Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 6 hours ago, FabuloustheGardevoir said: I think there's a missed opportunity here for better progression of the 'Intrinsic' system here. Some of these attributes are QoL, or are so essential that they ought to be part of every Railjack Crew's arsenal from the get-go, others are bland bonuses. So I thought: Why not make another tier of 'Focus Schools', but for Railjack ops instead? Something like "House Academies", to which I've already developed a basic system that hopefully could be discussed. House Lavan: believes that victory is certain in hindering the enemy war machine through strategic destruction of enemy operations, subterfuge, and use of the least cost for maximum effect; bonuses for archwing- and warframe-centered gameplay Tactical Void Teleport: can warp to a crewmember; first few seconds of warp-in puts user in cloak, amplifying damage of the first weapon attack or ability strength of the first warframe ability; consumes flux energy, and has cooldown (higher levels use less flux energy and reduced cooldown) Stasis Field: for the first several seconds enemy boarders enter the ship, movespeed and attackspeed are significantly slower Piloting Archwing Optimization: increased archwing speed/health/shields/ability efficiency Lavan Warp: vector maneuver and drift launch instantly teleports ship Lavan Drift: boosting cloaks the ship for reduced speed (higher levels increase cloaked speed); first few seconds after exiting cloak, either by stopping boost or firing pilot weapons, increases weapon status chance & critical chance Gunnery Fighter Doctrine: increases damage, critical chance and status chance of arch-gun and arch-melee Void Slingshot: increases slingshot effective range, bonus damage for point-of-impact and a duration afterwards, and direct slingshot into the room of a crewship/base with the objective nukes enemies on arrival Engineering Lavan Ingenuity: reduce resource cost for forging items, and chance to successfully forge items even without the resources to do so Lavan Resourcefulness: repair hazards without consuming Revolite, but at slower speed House Vidar: believes that victory is found in combined arms warfare, the perfect balance of ground support and space superiority to give the enemy no room to breathe in the theatre of war; bonuses for both archwing and railjack gameplay Tactical Rapid Deployment: can warp to a crewmember; first few seconds of warp-in grants user bonus to movespeed, attackspeed, and ability casting speed; consumes flux energy, and has cooldown (higher levels use less flux energy and reduced cooldown) Nightmare Field: for first few seconds enemy boarders enter the ship, chance each second for enemy boarders to be hit with radiation proc Piloting Vidar Maneuver: vector maneuver and drift launch briefly increases ship armor and barrier Spacial Radiator: boosting increases turret heat capacity, ordnance projectile speed and refire rate, artillery charge speed and refire rate, and overall weapon status chance and duration Gunnery Suppressive Fire: splash effect with increasing radius is applied to nearby enemies on ship weapons and arch-gun hits Glaive Slingshot: destroying an enemy ship through slingshot immediately bounces user to another enemy within range for a certain number of bounces, prioritizing lower health ones until boarding a crewship as last Engineering Forge Optimization: reduces cooldown of Forge and chance to forge items without using up resources What Doesn't Kill: repairing certain hazards will grant bonuses for the ship for a duration Critical Hull Breech = longer invincibility duration, railjack weapons have bonus damage Hull Breech = railjack weapons have bonus total damage Fire Hazard = railjack weapons deal bonus incendiary damage Electrical Hazard = railjack weapons deal bonus ionic damage Cold Hazard = railjack weapons deal bonus frost damage Toxin Hazard = railjack weapons deal bonus chemical damage House Zetki: believes that victory is achieved through utter space superiority by powerful weaponry and superior skill, followed by generous orbital bombardment from long-range artillery; bonuses for railjack-centered gameplay Tactical Immortal Insertion: can warp to a crewmember; first few seconds of warp-in makes user invincible; consumes flux energy, and has cooldown (higher levels use less flux energy and reduced cooldown) Damage Field: for first several seconds enemy boarders enter the ship, they deal less damage while taking more damage Piloting: Zetki Maneuver: ramming into enemies during a vector maneuver or drift launch will deal ionic and ballistic damage proportional to ship's total shields and health respectively. Zetki Momentum: boosting buffs turn rate and turret/ordnance/artillery damage Gunnery Void Sniper: increased turret/ordnance/artillery range; increased critical chance and critical damage while aiming Overheat Redistribution: higher turret heat increases turret damage and can still fire briefly during overheat Surgical Bombardment: firing artillery at certain objectives within range will bypass obstacles, kill assassination targets, or provide room-wide artillery damage to all enemies near the objective Engineering Power House: increases output of Forge for same cost of resources Quantum Payload: can output more Forge items above the usual storage limit Definitely something to look forward... Good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 They could do it with something else because the houses are really just manufacturers and contractors within the Orokin Empire. See them as Saab or Boeing, they make military hardware but they have nothing to do with any military organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphirya Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 7 hours ago, FabuloustheGardevoir said: Surgical Bombardment: firing artillery at certain objectives within range will bypass obstacles, kill assassination targets, or provide room-wide artillery damage to all enemies near the objective Yoooo, being able to fire into a galleon's flanks to blow out the bridge and do heavy damage to the ship's commander would be badass. I'm for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabuloustheGardevoir Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 7 hours ago, SneakyErvin said: They could do it with something else because the houses are really just manufacturers and contractors within the Orokin Empire. See them as Saab or Boeing, they make military hardware but they have nothing to do with any military organization. Why not both? What's stopping a 'house' be both manufacturer and an organization with focused academia and war discipline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Librus_107 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 This is actually a really interesting idea. Would be really nice to specialize and have the system... have way better customization and balancing. And the ideas you bring up for this are pretty good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabuloustheGardevoir Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) This thread is open for further add-on skills/abilities for each house! Others that've just come to mind are: House Lavan Tactical Emergency Recall: fatal damage on user in archwing mode will instead make them invincible for a second, then teleported back to the ship, with full health and energy; has cooldown Lavan Fluxjacking: Tactical Menu has additional options opened for user Flux Fighters: add a flat bonus to crews' archwings' health/shields/armor, and percentage bonus Void damage to crews' arch-guns and arch-melee, for a duration Flux Veil: for a duration, players who launch from the slingshot are automatically put into cloak for a few seconds after impact or end of launch cycle Piloting Acewing: Archwing Blink makes user invulnerable, and abilities won't use energy, for a few seconds; has cooldown Engineering (moved from Piloting) Archwing Optimization: increased archwing speed/health/shields/ability efficiency House Vidar Tactical Flux Augmentation: using Ability Kinesis grants crew within chosen ability's AoE with bonus armor and damage for a duration, proportional to flux energy cost of said ability Vidar Fluxjacking: Tactical Menu has additional options opened for user Flux Fountain: for a duration, crews' warframe abilities don't use energy, turrets have infinite heat capacity, and ordnances don't use ammo Flux Assault: for a duration, crews' warframe weapons have percentage bonus Void damage Gunnery Auxiliary Slingshots: going out of regular airlocks will put user in a slingshot interface, where they're invincible for a few seconds and can launch themselves at enemies like regular slingshot; doesn't activate Glaive Slingshot House Zetki Tactical Zetki Fluxjacking: Tactical Menu has additional options opened for user Flux Barrier: add a flat bonus to shield amount and shield resistance to all forms of damage for a duration, or until shields are depleted Flux Weaponry: add percentage bonus Void damage to all forms of ship weaponry for a duration Edited February 3, 2020 by FabuloustheGardevoir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 11 hours ago, FabuloustheGardevoir said: Why not both? What's stopping a 'house' be both manufacturer and an organization with focused academia and war discipline? The Orokin doesnt seem to work that way. While houses may be part of the military, they still all seem to just be Dax no matter where they originally come from. And since those are also ancient houses the connection to the tenno and the reason for why tenno should have house specific doctrines seems very odd. We arent from either house and even if we by some longshot were, no other from the house would be there to teach us their doctrines because the orokin are long dead and gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabuloustheGardevoir Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 moved to proper feedback thread: https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1151336-pc-empyrean-intrinsics-feedback-megathread/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-11358253 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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