Great job on Scarlet Spear DE

[(XBOX)Papa Requiem]

On 2020-04-12 at 12:57 AM, MPonder said:

Your builds are probably pretty bad if you feel pushed by that.

Actually I'm always top squad in every flotilla I'm in so you can go ahead and keep thinking whatever makes you happy hun. This is a DE appreciation post. 

[(XBOX)Papa Requiem]

On 2020-04-12 at 1:13 AM, Savire510 said:

 

Will the consoles have higher scores for Scarlet Spear because they were delivered newest fixes at launch?

Will the pcs be forever tainted with the bad reception at launch of Scarlet Spear?

I do think this would be the case. Console had all that stuff quashed before we got it. I was honestly worried about how buggy it would be but I've not encountered a single bug. 

[(XBOX)Papa Requiem]

21 hours ago, (PS4)Viveeeh said:

Okay, let's go all the way back, and let me rephrase.

You can criticise DE all the way you want. Why not? After all, Scarlet Spear is really not that creative, as someone else said about, it's basically a glorified mobile defence. But why telling people off because they are having fun? They're obviously more casual than yourself, but why is that a problem? Let me help, it's not. Don't try to ruin someone else's mood just because they're having fun with something you don't.

I thank you for your valiant defense but I think with my 4k hours I'm far from casual. When I say "push my builds" I'm talking speed running. My fastest time for a 17 run on ground is 30 minutes approximately. I want to see if I can shave that down more. 🤣

[(XBOX)Papa Requiem]

19 hours ago, IIAc3sII said:

Calling Scarlet Spear content, what a joke.

If this is the kind of "content" we can expect in the future, instead of some decent story or actual new missions, then I hold my heart.

SS is simply put a regurgitation of mobile defense, that you repeat endlessly to get your arcanes back to max rank, which DE slashed in half after players already maxed them to begin with, and you dare to call it content and even praise DE for doing a good job.

you can take your bad attitude to a new thread, thanks. 

[(XBOX)Papa Requiem]

18 hours ago, Swagernator22663 said:

I mean, at the end of the day youre a console player, so.

And? If you mean the fact that most bugs were quashed before I got it, then yes, that directly improves my experience. 

[(XBOX)Papa Requiem]

13 hours ago, (PS4)Viveeeh said:

People say it changed for the worse, but did it though?

It didn't. 

[(XBOX)Papa Requiem]

10 hours ago, (XB1)XG1anBl4derX said:

I just wish they removed the stupid cap from the bonus credits. Instead of rewarding you, all the cap does is make it more relevant to do 1 run per Flotilla and jump to another Flotilla immediatelly.

They could also nerf Sentients damage (they 1 shot pretty much anything that isn't a tank), and remove their damage caps. Then the event would be 100% perfect.

I agree about the cap. Wish it wasn't there. It would give more incentive to stay and make sure your relay achieves victory. 

[(NSW)Greybones]

59 minutes ago, IIAc3sII said:

You leave a thread on a public forum, if u cant handle my opinion that SS is kind of garbage, then maybe you shouldnt leave your opinion that calls SS "the best content everrr", or better yet, follow your own advice and dont respond to my post, you tell me to do one thing but you dont even do it yourself.

SS is just an endless mobile defense grind, not content at all, repeating something a thousand times doesnt make it content.

You clearly get satisfaction from getting rewards (grind), I'm glad DE is fooling you with this feeling into believing its somehow "content", but once that wears off you'll notice how empty and utterly meaningless it actually was.

ps: dont ever enter a casino, I can tell you'll get stuck in it.

Easy there. You’re entitled to your opinion, just ease up on the aggressive behavior.

As a fellow forum-goer, I can see you make valid points. Phrases like “you dare call it content” from your initial post skew my interpretation of them, and I’d much rather learn where you’re coming from in regards to your experiences than see someone attacked for voicing their perspective.

Edited April 13, 2020 by (NSW)Greybones

[Althaline]

Not sure how you can improve how fast you clear a glorified MDef, and in terms of builds the event is basically just Limbo Prime 2: Stasis Harder. I think that to make an enjoyable event, DE needs to release something that tests your skills, rather than testing how long you can babysit a suicidal chunk of metal that can't even be healed.

[(XBOX)Papa Requiem]

4 hours ago, IIAc3sII said:

You leave a thread on a public forum, if u cant handle my opinion that SS is kind of garbage, then maybe you shouldnt leave your opinion that calls SS "the best content everrr", or better yet, follow your own advice and dont respond to my post, you tell me to do one thing but you dont even do it yourself.

SS is just an endless mobile defense grind, not content at all, repeating something a thousand times doesnt make it content.

You clearly get satisfaction from getting rewards (grind), I'm glad DE is fooling you with this feeling into believing its somehow "content", but once that wears off you'll notice how empty and utterly meaningless it actually was.

ps: dont ever enter a casino, I can tell you'll get stuck in it.

I don't believe I said this is the best content ever. And it sounds like you're angry about some other things so go take it out on them and not me, thanks. You don't need to come in here with all your saltiness.

Also, I have been in casinos. I hate them. I fail to see how that is relevant to Warframe. lmao

Edited April 13, 2020 by (XB1)Papa Requiem

[(XBOX)radsaq]

I've also been having a lot of fun with Scarlet Spear on XB1. I've run everything from solo to "meta" (-ish? Does Khora instead of a Mesa count as meta?) groups and the best times were definitely running it with friends.

Feels weird, though, that saying so on the forums brings out a bunch of people complaining about how playing Warframe's latest event involves running Warframe missions and calling you out for being a console player. 🤔

[(XBOX)Papa Requiem]

3 hours ago, (XB1)radsaq said:

I've also been having a lot of fun with Scarlet Spear on XB1. I've run everything from solo to "meta" (-ish? Does Khora instead of a Mesa count as meta?) groups and the best times were definitely running it with friends.

Feels weird, though, that saying so on the forums brings out a bunch of people complaining about how playing Warframe's latest event involves running Warframe missions and calling you out for being a console player. 🤔

I know right? Its a shame so many people are eager to jump on DE for any slight mishap. 

[EmailSoup]

I also have really been enjoying the event, I am hoping it becomes recurring. Once the first week of horrific bugs passed, anyway.

I wouldn't say it pushes my builds to the limit per say. It is fairly doable/easy with any builds, but I really appreciate the foresight from DE to have a lot of assorted gameplay elements in it. I feel like there isn't a weapon or warframe or focus school (or etc) that feels useless in Scarlet Spear. I can boot up Warframe, pick whatever build/loadout I want to play with, and it just works with the event. (Obviously, some warframes' kits are better/more advantageous), but in general, every character has a role they can fill and I feel like they're all pretty useful in their own way. The event has moments asking for CC, DPS, defense, and speed, at least one of which can be accomplished by each and every warframe. For the record, I don't think it's a very well designed event, but for what it is I can at least enjoy the gameplay. Warframe has always been about the insane number of choices and I'm a sucker for when DE adds gamemodes that allow me to use all of those choices. 

Disruption is my other favorite "gamemode" in Warframe for the same reasons. I love how Disruption has a place for any warframe I choose. My only gripe with the event is how repetitive it is. It's the same objective, 17 times if you're on the ground. (I have opted to mostly ignore the railjack portion of the event after a few runs so I can't speak about it too much.) If there was a feeling of randomness or just different objectives in general to keep me on my toes, I might have liked it a little more.

And the earn rate seems pretty good, if you care about it. I try not to treat any gamemodes as "grinds." I know a lot of people play new content for the sole purpose of the loot, but I've always preferred when DE adds fun content over "good grinds." I liked the fact that DE added the Titania Prime relics into the rotations. I haven't gone and farmed for the new relics yet but I already have piles of them just from the event, and that it's nice that I didn't have to go out of my way to do that.

Edited April 14, 2020 by EmailSoup

[(NSW)Greybones]

17 minutes ago, IIAc3sII said:

Then please stop telling others to leave your thread if you disagree with what they are saying, thanks.

You literally said "has been some of the best content", just ask yourself this; once you level up all your arcanes to the max rank, will you still enjoy this so called content? I dont think so.

My experience is simple: First DE slashes all my max arcanes in half that I worked really hard for and even paid thousands of plat on, then they release new "content" where you once again have to grind yourself to death just to get back what DE slashed in half to begin with.

I'm basically re-doing what I already did before just to get back what DE took away for no reason.

And then DE and people like (XB1)Papa pretend its somehow content when all it is is just mobile defense over and over again, even if you do the SS space mission, what do you actually do with your railjack? Nothing at all. So this is why I grinded RJ missions for all this time, to get a very good railjack so it can be a...taxi...

And lets not forget all these bugs we had on PC, or the fact that if you go do the SS space mission you still encounter so many regular railjack bugs that have been in the game since the launch of railjack, DE still didnt fix those bugs but now they are releasing new "content" instead of fixing their previous "content" properly.

But lets just praise DE for doing such a good job shall we, a bug ridden massive grind where you earn back what DE took away from you.

 

Okay and now lets think about the actual content, how did the story progress, whats actually new, did we get some new areas to explore? That would be actual content, and that is exactly what we did not get.

Thanks for sharing your experiences and perspectives. I like building up an overall picture of how things are at the moment, and your willingness to share a little about yourself has been added to my impressions.

Hrmm. 🤔 It sounds like you’ve had a rough go of it, which is fair. Not everyone enjoys the changes, while others are thrilled. @(XB1)Papa Requiem seems to be enjoying themselves if their OP is anything to go by.

You seem to have a problem with them voicing their experiences. I’m picking up that you consider this topic “Blind Praise” for DE, but what I’m seeing in the OP is someone stating they’re having fun and are thankful for it. I very much doubt that @(XB1)Papa Requiem thinks that Warframe is perfect (could always ask what they find wrong), and instead this topic is an itty bitty fragment of their entire perspective, and it works poorly as a gauge of what their motivations and values are.

Is there perhaps an underlying concern of yours regarding your impression of this topic? 🤔 I’d love to have additional clarification; perhaps your issues could be resolved through discussion between all parties involved

[(NSW)Greybones]

1 hour ago, IIAc3sII said:

 

Them...not at all, but towards the OP I do now, just go look at my first reply, it was perfectly fine and I disagreed, then the OP said I had a bad attitude and I should leave the thread, well it seems like the OP has a problem with me voicing my opinion and felt attacking me over it was appropriate, so I just pushed back at him, but not at anyone else though.

I found the entire post that I quoted a part of worth a read for the insight into how you approached this topic, thanks for that. Technically I’m not involved in the conversation that was happening in the topic before I jumped in; just a bystander who saw the direction the conversation was heading and wanted to help ease it out of that path of people attacking each other by temporarily de-railing it. I hope your clarification on where you’re coming from will aid in the endeavour. I’ll take what you’ve said on board while I duck out and let the topic take over once more 👍

Regarding the quoted bit, I must apologize for phrasing it the way I did; when I said “Them” I was referring to @(XB1)Papa Requiem since I don’t know their gender or how they choose to represent themselves. I can see how you thought that I was referring to the others in this topic, and that’s on me for not assisting in clarifying who I was referring to (I could have done a parenthetical inset with the name of who I was referring to, as an example).

Edited April 14, 2020 by (NSW)Greybones

[LordLeraje]

Ok, the first few days of Scarlet Spear were pretty rough. Lots of bugs and seemingly totally random rewards.

The Basmu is certainly interesting......

But those rare and legendary arcanes. Yes please. As a filthy casual with a career and family, I can't generally do Eidolon hunts more than once or twice a day, if I remember. Before scarlet spear my only rank 5 arcanes were a few commons, and my best legendary was rank 2. Now I've got at least 8 full sets. Wow, this really is a great reward for this event. I imagine even most hardcore players will want to fill out the missing pieces of their collections.

I also enjoy the two different missions going on together thing (except for those first few buggy days). Next time I would be nice if they weren't both mobile defense. 

[(PSN)GEN-Son_17]

On 2020-04-11 at 11:50 PM, (XB1)Papa Requiem said:

I have been really enjoying scarlet spear! The thrill of pushing my builds to the limit to see how quickly I can get waves done, pushing hard on a relay with an hour and fifteen minutes from less than 10 Murex defeated to nearly getting all of them has been some of the best content I've played in a while. My buddies and I have been having a freaking blast! I know there were a lot of issues on PC at launch but I haven't encountered a single bug. The only thing I could suggest improving is matchmaking. Trying to go in and PUG a squad without using recruiting chat ends up with you in a solo squad most of the time but aside from that 9/10 event DE. Well done. 

Hell yeah! On PS4, Scarlet Spear is awesome!! Thank you PC guys and gals for dealing with the bugs because it's pretty clean on our end. I hate following the meta so I'm quite sure I could get things done faster but screw that, I'd rather learn on the fly, stress a bit over hiding my Railjack and get in and out of the murex ASAP. I also have way more arcanes than I thought I'd get based on the the complaints I've read. I love this update! Good look DE!

[(PSN)GEN-Son_17]

18 hours ago, IIAc3sII said:

You leave a thread on a public forum, if u cant handle my opinion that SS is kind of garbage, then maybe you shouldnt leave your opinion that calls SS "the best content everrr", or better yet, follow your own advice and dont respond to my post, you tell me to do one thing but you dont even do it yourself.

SS is just an endless mobile defense grind, not content at all, repeating something a thousand times doesnt make it content.

You clearly get satisfaction from getting rewards (grind), I'm glad DE is fooling you with this feeling into believing its somehow "content", but once that wears off you'll notice how empty and utterly meaningless it actually was.

ps: dont ever enter a casino, I can tell you'll get stuck in it.

This is the strangest argument and I don't get it. The game plays within its parameters. It's going to always, always, ALWAYS be a "kill all", "kill them", "defend that" or "discover this". Every single game has those exact same objectives. The difference is that Warframe has seven long years of this model and, if you're tired of Warframe and it's game modes, then just take time off. For others, SS is fast paced, fun and can be hectic as the levels increase. OP, myself and other players like SS and it's extremely far from "empty and utterly meaningless" as you described. Your opinion may have validations from others and it's 100% ok. I wish I knew where this overload of emotion comes from in modern gaming. 

[(XBOX)Papa Requiem]

On 2020-04-13 at 8:31 PM, (NSW)Greybones said:

 

Regarding the quoted bit, I must apologize for phrasing it the way I did; when I said “Them” I was referring to @(XB1)Papa Requiem since I don’t know their gender or how they choose to represent themselves. I can see how you thought that I was referring to the others in this topic, and that’s on me for not assisting in clarifying who I was referring to (I could have done a parenthetical inset with the name of who I was referring to, as an example).

Papa is in my freaking name mate

[(NSW)Greybones]

7 minutes ago, (XB1)Papa Requiem said:

Papa is in my freaking name mate

Didn’t know much about you, so I played it safe 😛 

Edited April 17, 2020 by (NSW)Greybones

[(XBOX)Papa Requiem]

On 2020-04-13 at 7:31 PM, IIAc3sII said:

Them...not at all, but towards the OP I do now, just go look at my first reply, it was perfectly fine and I disagreed, then the OP said I had a bad attitude and I should leave the thread, well it seems like the OP has a problem with me voicing my opinion and felt attacking me over it was appropriate, so I just pushed back at him, but not at anyone else though.

I just have a problem with people with bad attitudes, like yourself.

[Zebiko]

I'm enjoying the event now as well. The last gripe I had was getting into parties and not be stuck solo or empty instances. This seems to have been fixed or players are getting into the flow of the event more, idk. Either way, definitely a good event now.

Only thing now to do is to get those players, that tried the event at the beginning, back. Initial impressions are important and gave a bad taste. It can be hard to get them to try again.

[(PSN)ForNoPurpose]

On 2020-04-12 at 7:27 AM, Reifnir said:

With the amount of grind required to obtain at least one of each set of the more popular arcanes, it's a choice of either meta speedruns or getting burned out by the grind. 

Let's say you're running a meta team for Ground and doing 17 Condrix scans in 20 minutes, then hopping flotillas. That's roughly 12300 points assuming every flotilla you visited did reach their Murex quota. In that case, what you need/want at pretty much bare minimum is:

1) A set of Arcane Energize for all your channeled ability frames - 84,000

2) Grace for tanky frames - 84,000

3) Guardian for squishies - 31,500

4) Aegis for shield-based builds and that poor Mag - 42,000

5) Avenger for all those low-crit weapons - 42,000

6) Strike for some slower melees - 31,500

7) Velocity for any auto-trigger secondaries and of course, Mesa - 31,500

8] Healing for total Rad proc immunity - 31,500

9) Resistance for total Toxin immunity - 31,500

10) Nullifier for Magnetic procs - 21,000

 

Total: 430,500 or 35 Condrix runs at 20 minutes each. Almost 12 hours of non-stop speedruns - assuming a good meta team and the fact that you don't want any of the mastery fodder, cosmetics or stance formas or the non-essential arcanes. Dunno about you, but in a scenario where I did not have those arcanes already  I'd totally go meta here and MAYBE start doing casual runs after those 430k points. 

I mean my runs are literally me grabbing anyone who wants points and doing all the work with baruuk.

I am at 600k and 33+ t3 murex clears.. 

Oh and some jokingly commented about mag, dude mag with max radius bubbles is a hugely effective defense frame and would wreck ground. Meta is usually just the most POPULAR not the most EFFECTIVE.

[ShirakawaNaoya]

To be honest, I think SS is kinda meh. I have been avoiding Murex like plague as i have yet to reach Veil on my RJ content... try not to have any potential spoiler. But alas, I was like screw it i'm going in. and I was dumbfounded by how empty it feels, even worse once I boarded Murex ship. I was expecting endless wave of sentients but no, the spawn count is so low and their responds feels less aggressive compared to Ground?.

Edit: It makes me wonder why they make satellite invulnerable upon snapping it in place. It is a missed opportunities (Multi-defense-type-mission) for railjack engagement. Should've make it vulnerable in reasonable health scale proportionate to the mission. Imagine the situation where 1~3 gtfo to defend the Satellite after placing Oplink while 1~2 is inside murex to defend the Oplink.

So i think i'm gonna stick more to Ground.

Edited April 18, 2020 by ShirakawaNaoya
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