[The Outdated Parkour Thread] It Finally Happened! (Voice Your Opinion In The Poll!)

[Tr1ples1xer]

I'm not going to watch your videos, so quit bringing it up. After the stuff you've said in the past, you've practically shown yourself as someone who'd dig warframe into its grave. 

Copter removes the need for parkour because of how quickly you can get to locations. Air melee also does this, I mean seriously, the Galatine has a aerial attack that launches the frame higher than excal will ever reach with super jump.

Blame DE for that, imo its all a matter of choice you can still parkour slowly running every wall, using stairs and all OR you can use copter and air melee to go fast and way high, all depends on your playstyle, more choices the better imo. Copter is not the answer to everything though thats just not true and like you people who don't like copter don't use it and do fine supposedly so that's that, everyone wins.

[TheErebus.]

Blame DE for that, imo its all a matter of choice you can still parkour slowly running every wall, using stairs and all OR you can use copter and air melee to go fast and way high, all depends on your playstyle, more choices the better imo. Copter is not the answer to everything though thats just not true and like you people who don't like copter don't use it and do fine supposedly so that's that, everyone wins.

No, it's you to blame. You're the one using it, it was your choice to do it. And when you chose to do it, you are to blame here. 

But arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall, you never accept any one else's viewpoint and think yours is the right one. I've seen this aplenty with your views on balancing.

 

 

That's only true in the case that you use only Blind Rage.

That being said, even that doesn't make a difference because no one should build Excal with that much power. It'd kill all of his other abilites.

That also being said, that height is enough to be stopped by the ceiling in the game.

Is it? From what I've seen, it out-jumps excal in almost every way. Hell, I'd go as far as to call it Gala-launching, because it can catapult you to a whole new world.

[Tr1ples1xer]

No, it's you to blame. You're the one using it, it was your choice to do it. And when you chose to do it, you are to blame here. 

But arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall, you never accept any one else's viewpoint and think yours is the right one. I've seen this aplenty with your views on balancing.

Blame me for using something DE created and advertised, you serious ?

 

I and many others have plenty of fun using it, you're the one that sounds like the anti-fun angry kid brick wall here. I'll leave you alone for today merry x-mas.

[TheErebus.]

Blame me for using something DE created and advertised, you serious ?

 

I and many others have plenty of fun using it, you're the one that sounds like the anti-fun angry kid brick wall here. I'll leave you alone for today merry x-mas.

The coptering was an exploit that DE (For whatever reason) said that they want this in. When you decide to use coptering to get by things, you are to blame for supporting it. 

 

I'm not anti fun, if you actually pay attention, then you'd see that I want it to be more refined than it already is. Add some restrictions, make it integral to the next parkour update DE said that they are working on, then I'd be happy with it.

[taiiat]

You know what almost all the new tilesets arent parkour friendly

i don't know what you're doing wrong, but i can bounce around Tilesets just fine. so what if i can't wallrun from Spawn to Extraction?

 

i can still get around the map okay, though SpinDashes must be used as connectors.

the Parkour features we have are in their infancy, there's certainly a lot of work to be done. the systems aren't reliable, nor are they flexible.

 

there's a severe lack of control with the systems we have, while we can get around it by SpinDashing and butt sliding constantly to make up for what Parkour does wrong, it doesn't change the issues with it. we shouldn't need to use both of those constantly in order to make up for the lack of flexibility and reliability in the movement systems.

 

 

but then again, i'm not sure why i'm bothering to write any of this, you're probably going to ignore every word and keep repeating unrelated things, pretending someone is trying to take away your candy.

[(PSN)theelix]

Is it? From what I've seen, it out-jumps excal in almost every way. Hell, I'd go as far as to call it Gala-launching, because it can catapult you to a whole new world.

105% Power (Arcane Pendragon and Rank 9 Blind Rage) Super Jump < Galatine

135% Power Super Jump ( + Intensity) < Galatine.

But I think the Transient Fortitude mod would allow for you to reach the galatine's level. Though, it would kill radial blind to about 8 or so seconds and if you want to actually use Super Jump often, you'll need Power efficiency Mods, effectively making Slash Dash a standstill move and Radial Blind a complete waste of energy.

 

 

Blame me for using something DE created and advertised, you serious ?

 

I and many others have plenty of fun using it, you're the one that sounds like the anti-fun angry kid brick wall here. I'll leave you alone for today merry x-mas.

Watched some of your videos. You're pretty good. Though, a lot of those jumps are limited to a select few choice of weapons and some even a select few choice of frames.

E.G Volt, Excalibur.

[Rakshal]

How about we all get back on topic here. Coptering and air melee isn't ruining parkour, poor map design and clunky movement is ruining it.

[ThePresident777]

It can't be said that one could just as easily sprint or slide instead of coptor if by "just as easily" it is meant that all three forms of movement are equally effective, because they are not.

 

Does anyone want to to claim that parkour, sprinting, sliding, and coptoring should be equally effective?

 

How about we all get back on topic here. Coptering and air melee isn't ruining parkour, poor map design and clunky movement is ruining it.

 

+10000000000000..............

Edited December 25, 2014 by ThePresident777

[Nkomo-Sama]

I hear u all but the truth is...this is too important to ignore any further...  https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/372191-helpourninjasdobackflips-2014-2015-diddydrake-editionthought-i-toldya/#entry4112558

 

 

HELPTHEM

Edited December 26, 2014 by Nkomo-Sama

[ThePresident777]

But, why should the back flips be slower and shorter?  That's just going to give the enemy an extra chance to shoot Tenno in the butt.

[geninrising]

Bump!

[Tr1ples1xer]

Watched some of your videos. You're pretty good. Though, a lot of those jumps are limited to a select few choice of weapons and some even a select few choice of frames.

E.G Volt, Excalibur.

Linking multiple wallruns can be done with any frame even vanilla frames without any mods, but for sure to get proper distance while coptering and wall attacking you will need a quick melee weapon. But now with the new air attacks every weapon can have some sort of distance but I haven't done a video with air melee yet.

[Aspari]

But, why should the back flips be slower and shorter?  That's just going to give the enemy an extra chance to shoot Tenno in the butt.

I think it'd be okay so long as they keep the current I-Frames and the movement looks right.

[FullSupport]

It would be great to see all of these ideas implemented. I'm guilty of abusing momentum gain from sliding, wall jump catapults, ridiculous copters, and now extremely useful directional melee attacks for reaching high places.

 

While I have learned to perform all these very well and have very good control of them, even when it gets the job done, it just doesn't feel right.

 

That doesn't mean these mechanics should be trashed but rather, they should be reworked, along with the addition of new movements and making current evasions and general parkour more viable.

 

I absolutely loved the idea of team maneuvers, and I'd love to perform them often with fellow tenno. After all, this is supposed to be a team game right?

[-SLX-J3tAc3]

But, why should the back flips be slower and shorter?  That's just going to give the enemy an extra chance to shoot Tenno in the butt.

And that's an asinine idea.

[unknow99]

But, why should the back flips be slower and shorter?  That's just going to give the enemy an extra chance to shoot Tenno in the butt.

 

Nah, handspring/side roll & other basic moves need attention.

[taiiat]

 

handspring

we're not talking about the Mod, right?

because Handspring the Mod is extremely good, far better than any of the other Mods that affect Knockdowns :|

[Zirion_Bk]

we're not talking about the Mod, right?

because Handspring the Mod is extremely good, far better than any of the other Mods that affect Knockdowns :|

I usually use Constitution along with Handspring on more melee focused builds, like my Oberon. Getting knocked down is barely an annoyance at this point.

[(PSN)theelix]

I usually use Constitution along with Handspring on more melee focused builds, like my Oberon. Getting knocked down is barely an annoyance at this point.

Constitution does not stack with Handspring BTW

[taiiat]

Constitution does not stack with Handspring BTW

QFT

 

 

and Handspring is borderline OP on it's own anyways. if you have Handspring, you don't need any of the other Mods related to Knockdowns. it's better than all of them combined.

[unknow99]

we're not talking about the Mod, right?

because Handspring the Mod is extremely good, far better than any of the other Mods that affect Knockdowns :|

Nope, not the mod. The move you do when you +aim+go backwards+"roll".

 

^{I even forgot about this mod existence....}

[Zirion_Bk]

Constitution does not stack with Handspring BTW

Just confirmed that as well. Well, that's embarrasing. I guess I should do some actual testing when i make builds like this.

[Ov3ramag3r]

+1 this is cool its magnificent :D . But guys lets keep the directional melee too.

[Lukap99]

Nope, not the mod. The move you do when you +aim+go backwards+"roll".

 

^{I even forgot about this mod existence....}

 

Speaking of the handspring, wasn't there a community hot topic where 90% voted for it to be a mechanic? I know the CHTs don't guarantee something happening but come on.

[unknow99]

Speaking of the handspring, wasn't there a community hot topic where 90% voted for it to be a mechanic? I know the CHTs don't guarantee something happening but come on.

Yup, it went in the lake of forgotten memories or something. :/

 

I'll never spend  frame slot with this mod, you can count on that!...