So.. once more, about Plains of Eidolon.

[MulticolourkomodoDragon]

I know y'all are busy with other things. Though.. will we ever see PoE revisited? Because it still just.. isn't really that fun? Nor has it really benefitted from any of the other, better designs in the other open world areas. THe bounties are still.. kinda tedious and un-fun. Enemy spawns are still pretty bad and it's possible to lose a "take and hold" objective since enemies can spawn so far away or just spawn outside of the ring. Bolkor transports still just hover over you and perform strafing runs, sometimes ending up with three of them stacked on top of you and taking an /age/ to kill unless you bring whatever is considered meta at the time.

The bonus objectives are still.. pretttyyy awful. "Capture someone with no one dying" *this fails instantly because a sentinel or companion could easily kill someone*

"Keep target above 80% health" kinda not fair when you have a thumper following you around for the 10 minutes you're just blindly stumbling around with the escort drone.

Also, thumpers just really aren't fun to fight and are far too spongy for me to ever /want/ to fight.

 

What about the rewards, too? There's literally /one/ place you can get Eidolon lenses, and I'm personally tired of spending hours trying to get them only to instead get items that stopped mattering to me 20 Mastery Ranks ago. Focus conversion is awful without an Eidolon Lens or Lua Lens and you can't get Lua lenses without having an Eidolon Lens. Will we ever get a way to farm things like that and have it not mired in a bunch of items like "600 plastids!" or something?

 

Granted this is partly born of my frustrations with trying to farm focus and getting insanely bored with it. I don't personally care much for the Open World areas, but it'd at least be nice to see some improvements to them.

[TARINunit9]

17 minutes ago, MulticolourkomodoDragon said:

The bonus objectives are still.. pretttyyy awful. "Capture someone with no one dying" *this fails instantly because a sentinel or companion could easily kill someone*

This one is just flat-out broken. You know what else counts as dead enemies? Kuakas burrowing underground. Rollers latching onto you. Vomvalysts attacking Grineer for any reason

[MulticolourkomodoDragon]

Yeah it's kinda bullS#&$ how broken it is. Even #*!%ing LATCHERS count as "enemy killed" and these things have like 1HP and can be killed with a goddamn bullet jump.

[(PSN)Agent_CHAR]

1 hour ago, MulticolourkomodoDragon said:

There's literally /one/ place you can get Eidolon lenses, and I'm personally tired of spending hours trying to get them only to instead get items that stopped mattering to me 20 Mastery Ranks ago. Focus conversion is awful without an Eidolon Lens or Lua Lens and you can't get Lua lenses without having an Eidolon Lens.

I really think you need to re-evaluate your method of focus farming.  I did all of mine with one Eidolon lens on Banshee and four greater on different melee weapons paired with the affinity gains from naramon.  So why do you think you need more than 1 to 5 eidolon / lua lens? (I think you only need one, but I can see someone making a case for all 5)

It doesn't matter if you are using the Adaro stealth farm like I did or ESO.  The point is you have one loadout to do the farming.  Scattering lens all over the place for no reason is pointless and an insane grind if you think you are going to do that with lua's.

FWIW, I dusted off my Banshee for the nightwave level 30 exterminate challenge and not even caring about the convergence orbs I gained 175k focus in 4 minutes thanks to a personal booster and the 2x affinity running right now.  That was 75k on Banshee and 100k on the melee in spite of the fact Banshee had the better lens... but no naramon boost.

It really is that easy.  You just need to do it over and over and over to gain the bazillion total focus points required.

[MulticolourkomodoDragon]

The point is I really don't like farming Focus in the most boring #*!%ing way possible. Be it "instantly killing everything in a room" or "Spamming slide attacks to insta kill everything and get 500% XP modifiers"

 

I'd really just rather get that XP while just.. trying to play the game and have fun. It'd be a lot more fun if I could just get a decent amount of focus on the side while just playing the game and doing whatever I want 

[Zeddypanda]

On 2021-02-03 at 1:25 AM, MulticolourkomodoDragon said:

Enemy spawns are still pretty bad and it's possible to lose a "take and hold" objective since enemies can spawn so far away or just spawn outside of the ring.

I was playing Deimos earlier and the control just stayed at 100% whenever there weren't enemies around. Could we just bring this back to plains?

[Berzerkules]

All open worlds are trash. Bounties in every single open world get bugged. It has always been like that since I started this game yet DE decides to release more open worlds. 

2/3 bounties bugged for me today in PoE. First one enemies spawn in a cave when you have to keep control of a point. Go into cave to get to enemies and they are spawning up top or farther down the cave. Or the ones where the spawn in cave directly below you but the entrance to cave is outside the circle so you abandon objective trying to get to the enemies. 

Second one we had to do the suppl drop thing but they just stopped dropping them after the first one. This happened to me yesterday too. 

Of the 3 bounties I've ran today I'm at just about +3k standing because they bugged out. 

DE fix your damn game

EDIT:

It just happened again. Enemies spawn in a cave below me at the same time as they are spawning above ground. Can clear above ground and watch control% steadily drop. 3/4 bounties so far today.  

[(PSN)M00n_Slippers]

Honestly, open world doesn't even feel much like an open world when at most you can only have four players on it and as soon as host leaves everyone has to reload in. If you want to actually call it 'open world' you need dedicated servers and the ability to have more players on it. Otherwise it's just the same thing as tiles in normal missions, they are just flattened and connected instead of arranged in a serpentine pattern. I got max rank on all the open world factions and now avoid it like the plague unless forced by some reason or another to do more bounties it's not worth the bugs and loading times..