(PSN)Noxmalik Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 I will have to say I'm very excited to play this warframe. The power creep may be a problem for other support frames. Which is why I don't understand removing the look to revive mechanic from her helminth. All support frames could benefit from this. Keeping it would help balance that power creep. Jade seems to have many unique qualities so it want take from her at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordDragoonis Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 because the ability can armour strip and slow enemies down as well as revive. on other frames thats too much to be considered balanced so something has to give. Do note theres an operator ability that can instant revive already 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drachnyn Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 It feels like they're just taking it off for the sake of taking atleast something off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waeleto Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 3 hours ago, (PSN)Noxmalik said: The power creep may be a problem for other support frames. This is gotta be a trend by now because there is no way you seriously believe Jade can powercreep WISP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raarsi Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 I'm going to laugh hysterically if Jade winds up getting the nerfbat within a week like Dante and Styanax did, because that's what it feels like. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaQz-DeVil Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Would be sweet if they made her fly like Titania 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Probably_Asleep Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) 7 hours ago, Drachnyn said: It feels like they're just taking it off for the sake of taking atleast something off. This was my thought as well. While I think it's cool I don't see it as being all that useful. Companions self-revive, solo has little use for it, and maintaining eyes on your fallen comrade is only slightly less inconvenient than having to stand next to them for a few seconds. (And going into Void-Mode Operator to revive someone is still better in my opinion because then you can't get downed while trying to save your friend) I don't actually play in squads though so I could be completely wrong about this, but I feel like it's a cherry on top that no one is going to miss. Edited June 4 by Probably_Asleep then vs than 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Magician_NG Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Jade's helminth looks good on paper, but will be probably be balanced with LoS (90 to 120 degrees in view). This ability will power creep Tharros Strike more than it does Gloom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal_Sign Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 On 2024-06-03 at 4:04 PM, Raarsi said: This except Dante is sipping lemonade while on an inflatable yacht. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quxier Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 On 2024-06-04 at 2:49 AM, Probably_Asleep said: On 2024-06-03 at 7:33 PM, Drachnyn said: It feels like they're just taking it off for the sake of taking atleast something off. This was my thought as well. While I think it's cool I don't see it as being all that useful. Companions self-revive, solo has little use for it, and maintaining eyes on your fallen comrade is only slightly less inconvenient than having to stand next to them for a few seconds. (And going into Void-Mode Operator to revive someone is still better in my opinion because then you can't get downed while trying to save your friend) I don't actually play in squads though so I could be completely wrong about this, but I feel like it's a cherry on top that no one is going to miss. If I were solo player then it would be almost useless. I cannot revive Carrier with "X". With team I revive all kind of foxes, cats, dogs & stuffs with name. I'm Vazarin so it's fast. If I were not Vazarin it would be nice thing, imho. It honestly depend how much you revive. Sometimes I have not great damage because I'm smie-constantly reviving something. On 2024-06-03 at 11:04 PM, Raarsi said: I'm going to laugh hysterically if Jade winds up getting the nerfbat within a week like Dante and Styanax did, because that's what it feels like. Oh, boy.... STyanax-type nerf?! Suggestions: - you can only revive person that is looking at you - turn of ranged revive - you can only revive once per jump... yeah sounds weird - revive takes time, you cannot move but you are immortal (not companion) - so you look at the pain of others... so good feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Probably_Asleep Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 13 minutes ago, quxier said: If I were solo player then it would be almost useless. I cannot revive Carrier with "X". With team I revive all kind of foxes, cats, dogs & stuffs with name. I'm Vazarin so it's fast. If I were not Vazarin it would be nice thing, imho. It honestly depend how much you revive. Sometimes I have not great damage because I'm smie-constantly reviving something. quxier! That's fair. As a solo player I don't see a lot of death because I simply can't afford to, so I was taking my average deaths per mission (maybe around once every five to ten missions) and assuming it would only be that times 4 (so like maybe 1 in a mission). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Noxmalik Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 (edited) On 2024-06-03 at 12:43 PM, Waeleto said: This is gotta be a trend by now because there is no way you seriously believe Jade can powercreep WISP I dont know. Your right the trend is Jade might. So if others believe in the powercreep, then to me there isn't reason to remove anything from her helminth. Edited June 14 by (PSN)Noxmalik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsiWarp Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Keeping revive at range a unique reason to play Jade is what the Helminth alter is trying to do. If Gloom were to only give Lifesteal and not the slow, we'd see more Sevagoths on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanitybit Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 On 2024-06-03 at 1:15 PM, LordDragoonis said: because the ability can armour strip and slow enemies down as well as revive. on other frames thats too much to be considered balanced so something has to give. Do note theres an operator ability that can instant revive already The weird thing is that, of all of the things to remove, they chose the one that no one was going to pick the Helminth for anyway. Feels odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now