quxier Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 (edited) Melee has lot of basic issues: - no backward combo - it executes forward combos, probably most melee but I have not checked it - standing combo moves frame - most melees, it feels the worst when you have high attack speed (especially with team). - moving combos either slows you down or even stops you (gunblades), some standing combo are even faster than moving combo - missing combos Basics (for me is): - standing combo doesn't move you - moving combo moves at, more or less, constant speed - block+moving is (at least first attack(s)) either gap closer (e.g. quick jump to enemy & attack) or high range attack - backward combo exist (you can attack while moving backward) - especially good for gunblades - all 4 combos (standing, moving, block, block + moving) - attack doing damage/status (gunblade ground finisher issue) Here is list. It's mostly: missing combos, missmatched speed (standing/moving combo issues as above - most melees) and few specific. Quote blade & whip => defiled snapdragon - standing combo moves you claws => vermilion storm - standing combo moves you => malicous raptor - 2nd & 3rd standing combo moves you - first animation of block+move combo unneccessary stops frame, not having reach nor gap close like other "block+move" combos => four riders - standing combo moves you - block+move combo - same as malicious raptor stance Dagger => stinging torn - standing combo moves you => homing fang - no block combo - standing combo moves you => Pointed wind - no block combos - standing combo moves you Dual daggers => Gnashing payara - no block combo => Sinking talon - no standing & block combo - standing combo moves you (use moving combo) -- has "backwards combo" (good) => spinning needle - no block combo - standing combo moves you Dual swords => Carvning mantis - 2+ attack of standing combo moves you => Swirling tiger - no block combo - standing combo moves you => Crossing snake - standing combo moves you Fist => Seismic palm - standing combo moves you => Gaya tragedy - standing combo moves you => fracturing wind - standing combo moves you Glaive - no auto melee (some option, like turn of charge attack? or swap charge to heavy attacks (so no heavy/detonation)) => Astral twilight - standing combo moves you => gleaming talon - standing combo (3rd+ attack) moves you Gunblade - Ground combo sometimes have very small or 0 damage/status => High noon - standing combo moves you => Bullet dance - standing combo moves you - moving combo 2nd+ attack slow down attacks, it's 'blade slashing' instead of shooting all the time - COMPARISION: 35 meter travel: 27 second standing combo & 15 second moving combo Hammers => Crushing ruin - 1st attack of standing combo moves you - 2+ attacks of moving combo slows you down a lot Shattering storm - standing combo moves you - moving combo slows you down Heavy blade => tempo royale - standing combo moves you => Cleaving whirlwind - very small move of last attack of standing combo => Rending crane - standing combo moves you Heavy scythe => Galeforce down - standing combo moves you Machete => cyclone kraken - standing combo moves you => Surrending weave - standing combo moves you Nikana => Decisive judgement - standing combo moves you - moving combo slows you down - standing combo is faster than moving combo => Tranquil cleave - similar to Decisive judgement => Blind justice - similar to above Nunchaku => atlantis vulcan - standing (slowly) moves you Polearms => Shimmering blight - no block + block/move combos - standing moves you => Twirling spire - standing combo moves you - moving combos is just little bit faster than standing combo => Bleeding willow - no standing & block combo - standing combo moves you Rapier => Vulpine mask - standing combo moves you Tonfa => soverign - standing combo moves you => Gemini cross - standing combo moves you Two handed nikana => wize razor - standing combo moves you Scythes => Reaping spiral - no block combo - standing combo moves you => Stalking fan - no block combo - standing combo moves you Sparring => Brutal tide - no standing & block combo - standing combo moves you => Grim fury - no block combo - standing combo moves you Staves => Clashing forest - no block combo - standing combo moves you => flailing branch - no block combo - standing combo moves you Sword => Vengeful revenant - standing combo moves you => Crimson dervish - no block combo - standing combo moves you (almost like moving) => Swooping falcon - standing combo moves you => Iron Phoenix - no block combo - standing combo moves you Sword & shield => Final harbringer - standing combo moves you => Eleventh storm = standing combo moves you Warfan => slicing feather - standing combo moves you => Votivve onslaught - standing combo moves you Whips => burning wasp - no block combo - standing combo moves you => Coiling viper - no standing & block combo - standing combo moves you Dual nikanas => mountain's Edge - no block combo - standing combo moves you Assault saw: - standing combo moves you Edited July 31 by quxier assault saw - goodnight 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azamagon Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 On 2024-07-31 at 2:32 AM, quxier said: moving combos either slows you down or even stops you While I have a lot of issues with melee in this game, the quoted part is my biggest gripe with it. It's so AGGRAVATING. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojufueled Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 On 2024-08-03 at 6:23 PM, Azamagon said: While I have a lot of issues with melee in this game, the quoted part is my biggest gripe with it. It's so AGGRAVATING. Gunblade combos are hell on earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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