immolator1001 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) Just started building it and saw that 50% status chance. + pistol pestilence. Maybe sure shot and stunning speed could be worth it for 92.5% proc chance? With multishot? :D Thanks DE for finally making proc based weapons! Edited January 15, 2014 by immolator1001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimeLVL1 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Then add magnetic and blast.. All the weaknesses!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonvision Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) it's good there's a proc weapon, but it's innate corrosive damage means you cant have procs for magnetic, gas, radiation or viral damage, because it's impossible to create those damage types when the innate damage is corrosive(electric+toxic). edit: i stand corrected, i dont play with double secondary elements alot. anyway, this sidearm will probably become to best weapon to knockdown enemies with 90% proc rate and blast proc. Edited January 15, 2014 by leonvision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigrex Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 i call powercreep till i get a proof that it wont out dmg acrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immolator1001 Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 i call powercreep till i get a proof that it wont out dmg acrid Well the acrid was nerfed so hard that it definitely can out damage it. As for damage type I'm a little annoyed its yet another corrosive/toxic pistol and while it does limit the use I think that helps to keeping it from being over powered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXCrusnik Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Thanks DE for finally making proc based weapons! Now make the Prowess and Savvy mods not terrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLife Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Stunning Speed, Sure Shot, Pistol Pestilence. +10%, +15%, +60% 85% increase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incurso Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 it's good there's a proc weapon, but it's innate corrosive damage means you cant have procs for magnetic, gas, radiation or viral damage, because it's impossible to create those damage types when the innate damage is corrosive(electric+toxic). anyway, this sidearm will probably become to best weapon to knockdown enemies with 90% proc rate and blast proc. Huh? I have radiation in my Stug which has innate corrosive dmg also.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immolator1001 Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Stunning Speed, Sure Shot, Pistol Pestilence. +10%, +15%, +60% 85% increase My bad misread the wiki for stunning speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davoodoo Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 it's good there's a proc weapon, but it's innate corrosive damage means you cant have procs for magnetic, gas, radiation or viral damage, because it's impossible to create those damage types when the innate damage is corrosive(electric+toxic). anyway, this sidearm will probably become to best weapon to knockdown enemies with 90% proc rate and blast proc. You can get any element + corrosive on this, thats why its so powerful. I fear that it will be as op as i fear but i will reserve that till i get it and test it for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makya Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 i call powercreep till i get a proof that it wont out dmg acrid Is this enough proof? Acrid: 20 toxin, Rof of 6.7, Reload of 1.2 making it DPS: 87 Tysis: 35 corrosive, Rof of 2.5, Reload of 1.2 making it DPS: 73 This seems a alternate Stug than a Acris replacer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aishi Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Is this enough proof? Acrid: 20 toxin, Rof of 6.7, Reload of 1.2 making it DPS: 87 Tysis: 35 corrosive, Rof of 2.5, Reload of 1.2 making it DPS: 73 This seems a alternate Stug than a Acris replacer. Acrid status chance: 10% Tysis status chance: 50% Remind me what the Acrid is supposed to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHKany Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Acrid status chance: 10% Tysis status chance: 50% Remind me what the Acrid is supposed to do? Acrid procs toxin almost 100% of the time from what i've played. Tysis is still up there tho.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makya Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Remind me what the Acrid is supposed to do? I don't know about in 1.0, but 'make things die' would be my guess. Which from even that quick glance, it does better than the Tysis. (Though the Acrid could use a modest buff to get it more inline for what its cost is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) yawn. i don't think we even really need to do extensive testing to see Tysis can delete an enemies' Health in a matter of two, or three shots - with another player to deal with the remaining 1% on every enemy i guess. forget even bothering with a lot of Elementals, Viral alone will do the job of wiping any enemy you find you have trouble with. this coupled with the fact that this thing is quite easy to construct - and seemingly no Mastery Requirement - heh. this is even worse than Soma on day one. heh. >.> edit: Steve, look at your spreadsheets again. this should've been caught inhouse. Edited January 16, 2014 by taiiat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockshuss Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Tysis -Hornet Strike -Barrel Diffusion -Lethal Torrent -Pathogen Rounds -Deep Freeze -Pistol Pestilence -Sure Shot -Gunslinger Raw Damage Per Second :: 11783.041 Raw Burst Damage Per Second :: 17250.372 Time to Kill a lvl 100 Heavy Gunner :: 0.518 secondsTime to Kill a lvl 100 Toxic Ancient :: 0.518 secondsTime to Kill a lvl 100 Corpus Tech :: 3.967 secondsTime to Kill a lvl 100 Fusion Moa :: 2.248 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensignvidiot Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) I like the high proc chance, Steve said that he started at 10% and then kept going higher because he saw that 10% was almost next to useless. hopefully this means that a widespread boost in proc chances will be had for weapons across the board. Tysis -Hornet Strike -Barrel Diffusion -Lethal Torrent -Pathogen Rounds -Deep Freeze -Pistol Pestilence -Sure Shot -Gunslinger Raw Damage Per Second :: 11783.041 Raw Burst Damage Per Second :: 17250.372 Time to Kill a lvl 100 Heavy Gunner :: 0.518 secondsTime to Kill a lvl 100 Toxic Ancient :: 0.518 secondsTime to Kill a lvl 100 Corpus Tech :: 3.967 secondsTime to Kill a lvl 100 Fusion Moa :: 2.248 seconds Oi, hide that Edited January 16, 2014 by ensignvidiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltik0ne Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Tysis -Hornet Strike -Barrel Diffusion -Lethal Torrent -Pathogen Rounds -Deep Freeze -Pistol Pestilence -Sure Shot -Gunslinger Raw Damage Per Second :: 11783.041 Raw Burst Damage Per Second :: 17250.372 Time to Kill a lvl 100 Heavy Gunner :: 0.518 seconds Time to Kill a lvl 100 Toxic Ancient :: 0.518 seconds Time to Kill a lvl 100 Corpus Tech :: 3.967 seconds Time to Kill a lvl 100 Fusion Moa :: 2.248 seconds Damn, looking forward to trying this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KazVN Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 ^fail.. heavy gunner lv 100 have atleast 20k hp +! And weapon with 17k dps can kill it with less than 1 sec. Lol math Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockshuss Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 ^fail.. heavy gunner lv 100 have atleast 20k hp +! And weapon with 17k dps can kill it with less than 1 sec. Lol math http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Viral Educate yourself. The viral proc stacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuLycan Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) So why do we need the Acrid again DE? It seems like they're just adding more weapons before they fix the others. Edited January 16, 2014 by NuLycan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePresident777 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 i call powercreep till i get a proof that it wont out dmg acrid Innocent until proven guilty. You're make the accusation therefore the burden of proof is on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makya Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Viral Educate yourself. The viral proc stacks. "In Multiple Viral debuffs, the subsequent procs after the first proc will reset the Viral debuff timer without changes to target's health and max health." Can you explain what you mean that they stack? Edited January 16, 2014 by Makya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePresident777 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 yawn. i don't think we even really need to do extensive testing to see Tysis can delete an enemies' Health in a matter of two, or three shots - with another player to deal with the remaining 1% on every enemy i guess. forget even bothering with a lot of Elementals, Viral alone will do the job of wiping any enemy you find you have trouble with. this coupled with the fact that this thing is quite easy to construct - and seemingly no Mastery Requirement - heh. this is even worse than Soma on day one. heh. >.> edit: Steve, look at your spreadsheets again. this should've been caught inhouse. It must be fun then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdei Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 so have fun with the weapon for 3 weeks with a bunch of formas then bam nerfbat hits, right DE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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