GSDAkatsuki Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 For a second i wanted to say " NANOMACHINES SON" but meh warframe's space magic is weird The fact you mentioned that line makes me wish I can +rep your comment more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celseus Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. True, even Trinity's cleric-like abilities are supposedly technological. It's the mindset I've been using when playing warframe. Edited January 30, 2014 by Celseus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Darkseider Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Smelting this thing and using in crafting must be a technological nightmare without some hardcore magnetic tools. And since we now have "thing" can float on its own in the atmosphere - can we now have reduculusly huge airships as enemies in open tiles? Huh? Is this even possible? Like teleport, switch teleport, controlling magnetism and gravity so much more believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celseus Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) Your video proves that helium is lighter than air and aerogel is not, unless it is filled with a substance that is lighter than air - such as helium. You basically just proved that any container for helium that is light enough to be below the delta of gravity between helium and air will not cause the construct of container and helium to float down, but float up or remain quasi-stationary. As an example, a baloon filled with helium is not lighter than air - the helium is, and the baloon's weight is not enough to hold the helium down. Substitute baloon with aerogel here and you have your video, in parts. Where it is not filled with helium, but air, it is heavier than air, as proven by being on the surface of things, attracted by more gravitational pull than air. What would your point be? He has a nice idea (I am refering to Anatoulius's video being nice, not you ced23ric, in case you misunderstand). Who knows, maybe the alloy is a combination of structural properties that enable it to house 'lighter than air' substances that are part of it that allow it to counterbalance the weight of the metal itself! I think, that's what his point is. Doesn't make it any less of an alloy. Real life applications (like the one in the video) already exist, why not brought to higher levels in the future? SCIENCE! Edited January 30, 2014 by Celseus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letter13 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Remember that Fringe episode where for some reason Osmium (the densest naturally occurring element) suddenly began to float? Let's stop trying to classify Oxium. It's clearly something that is currently beyond our understanding. And at this point it's time to quote Arthur C. Clarke... When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I already posted that! >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBones Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Transhumanist, Science-Fantasy seems to cover the game fairly well as far as setting goes. We also have to remember that we (as a species) are only just discovering the fundamental building blocks of the atom and how things like gravitons and quarks make up the smallest of constructs. A thousand years into the future seems like a long time to build on that science. Bring on that God-Particle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodArmoredApostle Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) See in planetside 2 everything that is nonexplainable has a explanation....... nanites. So, here is not the case on warframe....ps2 its just...... nanites it explained it all. here its...idk Edited January 30, 2014 by BloodArmoredApostle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celseus Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) Here, orokin explains it all. But nevermind, no point defending this game's lore. Edited January 30, 2014 by Celseus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxseedlexx Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Oxium = Ox = Bull = Redbull = Redbull gives you wings duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noneuklid Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) and anyway, folks are only looking at this one way. Okay, so it's a metal that's lighter than air. That doesn't mean it's a light metal. Maybe it just means it's a metal that makes the air around it really, really dense. Edited January 30, 2014 by noneuklid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brynslustafir Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Space science logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raigir Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) "Lighter than air" does not immediately imply something will just float away if left alone. It is simply less dense than air and thus far easier to make flyable. Which by the way you notice the oxium ospreys still have their lift jet things. It is quite clear they still need a means of flight. Being made of an ultralight material is not an instant recipe for flight. Edited January 30, 2014 by Raigir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derclaw Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 "Lighter than air" does not immediately imply something will just float away if left alone. It is simply less dense than air and thus far easier to make flyable. Which by the way you notice the oxium ospreys still have their lift jet things. It is quite clear they still need a means of flight. Being made of an ultralight material is not an instant recipe for flight. They are not 100% made of Oxium lol. But they are still much bigger then regualr and can fly faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueQuail Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 For a second i wanted to say " NANOMACHINES SON" but meh warframe's space magic is weird "TECHNOCYTE SON." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 "TECHNOCYTE SON." THAT FITS SON xD Nice one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhziDahaka Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Since oxium is an exotic Orokin material, I just figure it has something to do with most of its mass being phased as an intentional result of being manufactured in the Void or something. Alternatively, maybe part of oxium's makeup is some kind of exotic energy construct that isn't really matter in the sense that we know it. Just the fact matter is energy doesn't mean that energy can't be somehow structured to make something else, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak_Gohae Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shehriazad Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 It's not that unbelievable...even with todays tech things that would be closely related aren't that far off.... like someone posted "Aerographene" ...while that doesn't float in air on its own....those drones would likely have engines to control their flight...I mean...DUH...just look at them.Just because something is light, doesn't mean that it would control it's flight path by magic.Creating strong enough metal alloys that are lighter than air is not absolute nonsense.... once our nano development goes small and efficient enough making materials that have the strength of steel but the weight of air... would not be an impossible dream...you could even see such things happen before you die (unless youre already like 80).THERE....just attach 2 small jet engines to it and you got a super mobile drone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtus_Dei_Est Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 come on, DE needed an excuse for the new warframe to be able to fly. "is made of alloy lighter than air" there is your explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerlinMaster Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 This really deserves a facepalm. There are many substances in our own world that are lighter than air and literally float in our atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krystalmyth Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) This thing doesnt float in the air on its won lol. Also Lotus said that its alloy which means it should be something solid. As for aerographen - IT DOESNT FLOAT IN THE AIR LOL - Wiki also says that. While it seems like Oxium does. I am ok with ultra-light materials - but ALLOY that is lighter then AIR? (The cited density does not include the weight of the air incorporated in the structure: it does not float in air). Luv, the Oxium Osprey's are not a slab of Oxium floating in the air. It is an Osprey, made with Oxium within its frame to reduce its weight. The platform does indeed have engines and a system in which to manufacture enough lift to make flight possible. It also has weapons to go along with its propulsion mechanisms. It is not a slab of Oxium that just floats in the air. Aerogel is already currently a solid in our current timeline that is less dense than air. It is also as we speak being used within drones and other flight mechanisms in order to create lighter frames for propulsion. I don't know where you got the idea that anyone said Oxium 'floats'. lol Edited January 31, 2014 by Krystalmyth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loswaith Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) Oxium we dont actually know how prolific it actually is. Given the corpus can mine the very gasses of Juipter. The component materials for Oxium could very well be quite prolific in those gasses. I'd take the term "lighter than air" as an abstract termanology. Im sure the clever scientists of the corpus have much more accurate termanology for this material that the more common layman Corpus/human and even then Lotus and Tenno simply wouldn't understand. Also keep in mind, we are limited to substances only found on earth/near space. Who knows what kinds of materials that could potentially exist on other planets that dont conform to the statement "... as we know it." Edited January 31, 2014 by Loswaith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobafetthotmail Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Oxium we dont actually know how prolific it actually is. Given the corpus can mine the very gasses of Juipter. The component materials for Oxium could very well be quite prolific in those gasses. Because none sent probes to analyze what gases there are in Jupiter some decade ago, and none can do spectral analysis with telescopes. Also keep in mind, we are limited to substances only found on earth/near space. Who knows what kinds of materials that could potentially exist on other planets that dont conform to the statement "... as we know it." What? We stopped using stuff we find as-is some millenia ago when someone started making the first crappy bronze. The element table does not have holes, we know the properties of all elements in it and what elements are best suited for whatever. Chemistry and materials science are where new stuff happens, we are well past the level of complexity that can be found naturally around. That clichè existed only in fiction. For biochemistry though (drugs and stuff) it's another matter, but we are talking of material science here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion-Shields Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 and anyway, folks are only looking at this one way. Okay, so it's a metal that's lighter than air. That doesn't mean it's a light metal. Maybe it just means it's a metal that makes the air around it really, really dense. that's actually a really neat idea....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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