Zarlockk Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Hi, I am just curious about your opinion. I hate Phobos and invasions because of them. As an example, today did invasion on Eris..yes i am corpus supporter, and I was frost with 1110 Shield and 300 HP. LVL 23 Eviscador makes 1 shot on me and I die from bleed in next 2 seconds. There was nobody else around us only we 2 and i killed him right after that 1 shot on me. So here is my question, is it just me or they are actually OP if you are not Rhino/Trinity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bejuizb Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Eviscerators. And yes, they are brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherIcarus Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Urm I believe you mean eviscerators and no I think they are a good example of a challenging enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonvision Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 it's not eviscerator's fault entirely, it's mostly because the bleeding proc needs some tweaking(eg, shouldnt bypass shields). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeryNinja Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Frost is terrible against them. Slow, and no health saving abilities. Best bet is to just run for your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamsinasoup Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I hate them so much. I'm not sure about others, but to me they are way too OP. It doesn't take much for them to kill you and besides, the damn blades they shoot bounce off from what they hit. Darn shield bypass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brynslustafir Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I think it's the bleeding damage that's OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTribute Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 For anyone that says they are challenging, tell me what's challenging about you bleeding to death with no cure because you got hit off guard ONCE. Eviscerators did massive damage with damage 1.0, and now it's even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caernarvon Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 They're fine, stop trying to make every enemy a weakling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroraSonicBoom Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 OP in regards to how weak other enemies are, yes. OP in regards to how OP players and their geare are, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord.Finster Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 They are dangerous in tight spaces. But that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnat6 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 right now the eviscerator's are a bit too strong but it is more a problem with the bleed proc and the health system then the eviscerator's themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serialkillerwhale Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 The best counter is to kill them first, if you have the right damage type, simple enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Lord_Gremlin Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 You've made a mistake of not being Rhino. However I don't remember them being that strong. Besides when you're going into invasion you can just take a weapon that will one-shot them with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimp77 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Eviscerators aren't any stronger than napalms or bombards imo. The enemy procs (especially bleed) are completely broken though. On Phobos I was bleeding for ~70 damage per tick after getting hit once by an eviscerator... it's a little unbalanced compared to the ~3 damage per tick from regular grineer troops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harazard Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Oh And if you use Frost... use Vitality mods to increase health atleast you won't die from one bleeding proc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General_Krull Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Why does bleed work trough shields? From what I understand, unless you're woman, you will only bleed if you're wounded. Generally speaking shields protect you from being wounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewens Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 No. The blades are easy to dodge if you keep moving and they can be dispatched quickly because they have low health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherIcarus Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I will admit the bleed proc needs changing but other than that they provide an actual threat one that you need to avoid or target fire down it is a refreshing change to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeePee Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Why does bleed work trough shields? From what I understand, unless you're woman, you will only bleed if you're wounded. Generally speaking shields protect you from being wounded. Tennos are soft on the inside, that's why. As for the eviscerators yes they're deadly, but they shoot a projectile which you can just dodge by moving a few steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I wouldn't say OP, but that bleeding damage needs some tweaking. They can be pretty brutal if they catch you off-guard, or in numbers. There was this one time I suddenly died with full shields because of bleeding proc. Then again, if you spot them from afar you can snipe them painlessly, and if you have to get through narrow corridors and suspect there is an Eviscerator nearby, that's why you got Tenno abilities. You have to go in prepared to counter them. Someone suggested above that bleeding shouldn't proc through shields, I think that's a good middle ground to fix the problem without having to actually nerf the Eviscerators themselves. After all, if bullets can't get through shields then why the hell am I bleeding with my shields up? As for the people who speak about dodging them, yeah, at several dozen meters it's possible, but not when you open a door and there are a couple of them right there waiting for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafarix Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) Like the others I agree that the proc needs to be changed. At least they aren't as bad as mid to high level scorchers from damage 1.0 especially in kiste. All it took was one coming from behind and if your in their fire for 1.5 - 2 seconds you're down even if you have 1k shields and 700 health. Edited February 2, 2014 by Rafarix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General_Krull Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Tennos are soft on the inside, that's why. As for the eviscerators yes they're deadly, but they shoot a projectile which you can just dodge by moving a few steps. It shouldn't matter how soft Tenno are as long as they are shielded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MandoKarla Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I like the Slash proc going through shields, and also, Snow Globe. Good for stationary assault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastSeraph Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I think they're fine. The more challenge, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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