nitroz76 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I rather have EA than PWE because atleast they keep their F2P games in working order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I'll explain it in a nutshell, DE might be purchased by an Asian "F2P" Video Game Company. This is bad. It's very bad. Imagine if Warframe was run by a huge company that milks the game for all it's worth by making basically everything require payment, then after it's completely drained, they throw it away, fire everyone in charge of the game, and go on to another one. No more friendly developers that listen to their community, no more frequent updates, and a lot more greed. Chinese. Not just Asian. Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letter13 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Either the devs don't know anything yet or they've been told not to release anything yet. This could be not so bad or very bad, but I'm done for tonight. Let's hope they talk about it tomorrow or during the stream. Well considering that from what we know, nothing has actually happened yet. All we have is a "notice of intent" and that's it. The ensuing panic and complete overreaction by the players here has caused other websites like MMOBomb and Joystiq to put our articles that use rumors as facts--and people then take these articles as further proof when really they are 100% rumor mill and cannot be confirmed by anyone except DE. Here's an incredibly objective analysis of the information we have so far: What We Currently Know About the PWE Deal (Reddit). Basically, nothing has been sold yet as far as we know. DE has only agreed to review PWE's intent to purchase shares. The shares that PWE is looking to purchase may not be 100% because "outstanding shares" and "authorized[(unrestricted/floating)] shares" are not the same. To quote, "...even if DE sells all outstanding shares, they can hold the majority of authorised shares in their treasury to keep the controlling amount of shares." However, we don't know the how much DE has in authorized shares so it is uncertain whether it's possible for PWE to become the majority shareholder. tl;dr people overreacted, panicked and then other people took their panic as a sign or proof that bad things have happened, despite the fact that nothing has likely happened yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orange Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 wait... London, Canada? Is there another London in Canada or my Geography knoweledge suck... London Canada near Toronto, there's lots of Londons. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_(disambiguation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser_Suoh Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 270+ pages!!! The "community Warframe" is strong and loyal. Would be a shame if this community died only for a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorinar Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 wait... London, Canada? Is there another London in Canada or my Geography knoweledge suck... traffic is so bad in the real London it spilled over into Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)StoneRevolver Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I'm glad 13.7 hasn't come out yet on PS4. I was itching to buy that Loki Prime Access. Now it seems I should wait until this is over. Right there with ya, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escherionix Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 it is all a conspiracy,nothing is true,two more pages of replies begging DE to stop this PW mayhem,the thing is they don't understand,even if this thread hits up to 10,000 replies DE won't make a move,where they can simply checkmate and say "Go Screw Yourself." to these who ruin games and destroy fanbases,look at how your baby grew,and now you are killing him and you were found redhanded...honestly DE,you are despicable. you are still CONSIDERING?! IT'S A NO-NO ON INSTANT FOR GOD'S SAKE,LOOK AT HOW EVERYONE IS REACTING,LOOK AT HOW YOU ARE MAKING A MOCKERY OF YOURSELF AND MAKING THAT MOCKERY BE THERE FOR YEARS TO COME,MAKING YOURSELF ONE OF THE MANY MISTAKEN COMPANIES THAT SCREWS OVER THE PLAYERBASE AND THINK MONEY IS THE KEY TO A PERFECT GAME,SERIOUSLY,IF GAMING IS HOW THIS IS GOING TO TURN OUT IN THE FUTURE,THEN I DON'T WANT TO LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO EXPERIENCE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidathe Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Well considering that from what we know, nothing has actually happened yet. All we have is a "notice of intent" and that's it. Here's an incredibly objective analysis of the information we have so far: What We Currently Know About the PWE Deal (Reddit). Basically, nothing has been sold yet as far as we know. DE has only agreed to review PWE's intent to purchase shares. The shares that PWE is looking to purchase may not be 100% because "outstanding shares" and "authorized shares" are not the same. To quote, "...even if DE sells all outstanding shares, they can hold the majority of authorised shares in their treasury to keep the controlling amount of shares." However, we don't know the how much DE has in authorized shares so it is uncertain whether it's possible for PWE to become the majority shareholder. Probably gotta use huge letters so people will read it better. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korxysn Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 What is amazing to me, after everything we've been through, as players and even as collaborators, to (one of) the best free to play game(s) ever made; one that redefined the "FREE TO PLAY" model, is that suddenly, and, without any credence, we so certainly and unquestionably assume the worst of everyone and everything we had placed so much hope and trust in up to this very point. I mean seriously: do you have any faith at all in Digital Extremes? Because, I think they deserve a little credit here. Others have posted already about the various legalities and stipulations concerning not only digital property rights, but international law as well. There are so many lawyers in this thread I fear I might incriminate myself! Yikes. How about everybody just eases the fock back for a day or two. I believe we shall see, as things unfold, that DE has been strengthening their share of the market. If some S#&$ty marketer wants to dump tons of money into DE, then I say go for it! I, for one, do not think the powers that be at Digital Extremes are idiots. Nor do I think they would sell out their fanbase. So, let's just hang back from the edge of madness a bit and try not to become Infested.... i, and alot of others are waiting for the official announcement to actually do much of anything. we have stated our displeasure, we have stated our intent if our FEARS are confirmed. but right now, we only have enough information to be afraid. and so we are. those who trust DE are waiting. those who do not have already left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPeriMeNTsp5 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 This reminds me another strong community game. The Eve Online. When the devs there made an awfully unaccurate gameinnovation... The CEO of CCP himself made a public excuses... But. Don't think this will happen or help in our case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancars Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Looks like the thread is slowing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornskarr Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 It's been fun DE, it really has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicon112 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 WTF IS THIS https://twitter.com/BerkeryMandA/status/483715852039356416 That would be a badly worded tweet, basically announcing what we already know. Click on the link in the tweet and the resulting page just restates what we already know. synopsis: Sumpo Food Holdings Limited announced that Perfect World Co., Ltd. and it entered into a non-binding term sheet for the purchase of all the outstanding shares of Digital Extremes Ltd. one of the world's top development studios in the interactive entertainment industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nkomo-Sama Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 over 5k posts. Damn. I was sure we would be closer to 10k by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khawz Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 After 1 year i recently(~2 weeks ago) decided to buy platinum for the first time and now i see this, pls dont make me regret spending that money :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 WTF IS THIS https://twitter.com/BerkeryMandA/status/483715852039356416 This right here is why I'm concerned. Because of the wording. "will acquire". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaskadar Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 (edited) This would destroy the game, DE. Please don't do this. This is so wrong. I will abandon Warframe entirely if this deal goes through. You will also lose much traction and any trust you'd garnered with the community. Edited July 3, 2014 by Vaskadar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaresin Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 This is going to be ugly before its over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodec Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinehero Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 ugh this better not happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticMoss Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Ah good on you for letting me know! Appreciated. In any even, I choose to remain positive. Even the DEs big whigs can't ignore the amount of player upset in this thread. I'm sure they are well aware of the consequences if they have not yet done what cannot be undone. As much as they treat Warframe like their child, I wouldn't think they would so easily give it up. If anything the Devs will be as upset as we are. Edit; grammar Well they own the whole DE team so really they can ignore us as long as it gives them a good amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidathe Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 This would destroy the game, DE. Please don't do this. This is so wrong. I don't think DE would give PWE controlling amounts of shares. That'd be silly. PWE will get some shares, along with the chicken place, they'll be happy to be getting money for nothing, and DE getting money for a lot of nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancars Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 *shovels more coal into the Anti_PWE train engine* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 (edited) I don't think DE would give PWE controlling amounts of shares. That'd be silly. PWE will get some shares, along with the chicken place, they'll be happy to be getting money for nothing, and DE getting money for a lot of nothing. Well all outstanding shares isn't "some". Edited July 3, 2014 by AntoineFlemming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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