vaugahn Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I dont think its worship like was said, its more recognizing your roots and paying homage. I say this because that statement sounds like youre talking to someone you consider a friend an colleague not someone you idolize/worship. Theres always a distinct difference in how you refer to people woship/idolize and people youre friendly/close with in any culture and that sounds far too friendly/buddy buddy for that I think there's definitely a hero worship aspect to it. The fact that they're writing it on their armor is strange. Even though the language is familiar, you wouldn't write something on your armor unless it was of great significance. Maybe they're invoking his name to give them strength in battle, or apologizing for the atrocities they committed while using his name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abenoki Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) I think there's definitely a hero worship aspect to it. The fact that they're writing it on their armor is strange. Even though the language is familiar, you wouldn't write something on your armor unless it was of great significance. Maybe they're invoking his name to give them strength in battle, or apologizing for the atrocities they committed while using his name? I guess I'm thinking too literally on the worship aspect (golden idol and prayer, etc.), but I suppose hero worship would be the idea, I'm not sure if any other warframe has Hayden mentioned on them though do they? Edited September 25, 2014 by Echoa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElHefe Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) - WE HAVE SOLVED THE CODE...sort of - The writing orientation changes wildly. Due to how the textures work (im assuming) the orientation of the symbols can be in many forms. However! I believe that it is still read when oriented from top left to bottom right. In this form, reading is typically left to right, however, again due to how textures work, some times reading right to left is necessary. This topic is up to debate. - VOWELS ARE THE SMALL FLOATING SYMBOLS ELEVATED ABOVE REGULAR RUNES. - A reminder on the various polarity names, as they seem to come into play: Madurai - - V Vazarin - - D Naramon - - Zenurik - - = Precept - - Y Fusion - - O Unairu - - R (or F) Very ingenious ... !+ The stylistic pattern that you lay out is straight from Arabic calligraphy and in particular pictograms where the letters are distorted and vary in orientation to make a larger design The figure above is the collective noun "Basmala" or "Bismillah", meaning in "In the name of God (Allah)" Notice the similarities of between Arabic lettering and the Tenno runes: 1. Both are cursive, consisting of graceful arcs 2. Individual letters can be very similar with respect to the "backbone" - rasm in Arabic - and are distinguished by diacritical marks (dots, dashes) - i'jam in Arabic 3. The orientation of the letter is not fixed - more like a patch design than writing on a page Here is a table of letters with the modern Abjadi sequence: Perhaps a bit of study of ideographic writing would provide additional insights to the Tenno "runes" On the other hand all this may be nothing more than ... Edited September 25, 2014 by ElHefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) I'm wonder what makes you think the writing on Excalibur is new when he woke up from cryo in full armor? :P we know they have no memory right now, who knows before. No, nononononononono, I'm not saying the writing was new when he woke up from cryo, I'm saying that there seems to be too much of a time gap between DS and WF - not to mention the seeming lack of knowledge about when ever the Proto-Armor comes from - to assume that the "I'm sorry" is just one bro saying to another "I'm taking your favorite shirt for the night" I guess I'm thinking too literally on the worship aspect (golden idol and prayer, etc.), but I suppose hero worship would be the idea, I'm not sure if any other warframe has Hayden mentioned on them though do they? Wasn't it said that Nyx had it on her as well? 'course, that's the similarities between the two talking. But his name also shows up on Loki's leg, and Loki's not all that similar to him. Edited September 25, 2014 by Morec0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValhaHazred Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Assuming that it's meant as a direct reference and not an easter egg, it could be more of a warning label than anything else. Hayden Tenno probably wasn't well liked (being a living metal monster man and all) and some of DEs statements and lore imply that "Tenno" means twisted or tainted to the Orokin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordMelvin Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I kinda figured the writing on Excal's shoulder meant something, but I can't believe this game has been out this long and we're only just discovering this. Genius world building. I don't think the English spoken in the game is so much broken as mutated. Warframe takes place at least a thousand years in the future. Language changes over time (just look at how we speak now compared to 20 years ago), so after the rise of an empire, a massive war, the rise of a warrior caste, the subsequent fall of an empire, and the rise of two more it's entirely reasonable that spelling and grammar would have changed. I only hope DE gives us a proper cypher so we can translate more, and down the line maybe even a pronunciation guide. They obviously have one considering how much dialogue is in the game and trailers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captwinchester Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Im going to just put this red veil text here >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shadow_Of_Hunhow Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Im going to just put this red veil text here >_> I got NETY_R(either C or K) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I got NETY_R(either C or K) It's been speculated that it's Network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shadow_Of_Hunhow Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Well the exact translation would be netyirc or netyirk cause the symbol that I couldn't tell looks like the possible I symbol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallordD Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 Well the exact translation would be netyirc or netyirk cause the symbol that I couldn't tell looks like the possible I symbol. That's correct. And with Y being pronounced WUH, it comes out to NETWIRK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abenoki Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) No, nononononononono, I'm not saying the writing was new when he woke up from cryo, I'm saying that there seems to be too much of a time gap between DS and WF - not to mention the seeming lack of knowledge about when ever the Proto-Armor comes from - to assume that the "I'm sorry" is just one bro saying to another "I'm taking your favorite shirt for the night" Wasn't it said that Nyx had it on her as well? 'course, that's the similarities between the two talking. But his name also shows up on Loki's leg, and Loki's not all that similar to him. well I was saying excluding the skin lol, I was saying that based on the information that they had on hayden, excalibur may have replicated his look as best he knew and took on the mantle of being the "hero" as he seems to be based on the warframe promo stuff. The writing would then be him paying homage to the hero he was emulating. Kind of like when bruce wayne "died" and Di ck grayson (i had to space the name >.<) took on the mantle of batman, excalibur is taking up the mantle of the hero using the image of hayden tenno. Edited September 26, 2014 by Echoa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallordD Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 Sorry if it's been mentioned but I haven't seen it sooooo.... Trin's mask is covered in runes. Jeez. I never noticed that on the ported models because the lighting was wonky. Luckily it looks like it's the same string repeated over and over again, so it shouldn't be too tough to translate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shadow_Of_Hunhow Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) Jeez. I never noticed that on the ported models because the lighting was wonky. Luckily it looks like it's the same string repeated over and over again, so it shouldn't be too tough to translate.This has a symbol we don't have placed yet, I'm trying to figure out what the rest says to see what would fit!Edit: I tried to translate it, and all I could get was either emyy ehyy emi or ehi. Turns out theres two symbols in this this one that I cant find a meanining for! Edited September 26, 2014 by (PS4)SCP-100912 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallordD Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 This has a symbol we don't have placed yet, I'm trying to figure out what the rest says to see what would fit! Edit: I tried to translate it, and all I could get was either emyy ehyy emi or ehi. Turns out theres two symbols in this this one that I cant find a meanining for! I don't see any new ones. The horizontal lines are word spacings, and the vertical lines are just squashed letters I think. The issue is that the text is very small and blurry, so distinguishing between letters is tough, not to mention that the text flips orientation A LOT in this instance. I was able to get "TENO MODEL" out in a couple spots, so it's probably not anything too interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shadow_Of_Hunhow Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I don't see any new ones. The horizontal lines are word spacings, and the vertical lines are just squashed letters I think. The issue is that the text is very small and blurry, so distinguishing between letters is tough, not to mention that the text flips orientation A LOT in this instance. I was able to get "TENO MODEL" out in a couple spots, so it's probably not anything too interesting. hmm, looking at the text the ones I couldn't make out were one that looked a - and the one that looks like the d polarity in the wrong orientation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)NearlyDedicated Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I love how I've been playing this game for a year and a half and players are still learning about the universe. I feel like this is what DE wants us to do. I wonder how many other things are hidden... Also: Have you ever noticed that in the void, a very stylistic (almost runic) set of patterns appear on the floor? They glow blue. Would it be at all possible that this is a hidden language, too? I'd like some fellow Tenno to aid in a deciphering of this potential fourth language. And oh my God, DE...if the Outer Terminus ever opens, and the Sentients return...please have a Sentient language ready... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValhaHazred Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Also: Have you ever noticed that in the void, a very stylistic (almost runic) set of patterns appear on the floor? They glow blue. Would it be at all possible that this is a hidden language, too? I'd like some fellow Tenno to aid in a deciphering of this potential fourth language. If that's the case, Tenno have that too. When you use a power it ripples across their "base" colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)NearlyDedicated Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 If that's the case, Tenno have that too. When you use a power it ripples across their "base" colour. Forgot I posted my theory here. I financed a search into the void, which found conclusive evidence of the appearance of only four different glyphs. Find more on the study here: (https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/316655-community-event-language-of-the-ancients/) However, the glyphs on the Tenno would be interesting to study, too. Perhaps when I have enough to finance another search, I'll look into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallordD Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 Forgot I posted my theory here. I financed a search into the void, which found conclusive evidence of the appearance of only four different glyphs. Find more on the study here: (https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/316655-community-event-language-of-the-ancients/) However, the glyphs on the Tenno would be interesting to study, too. Perhaps when I have enough to finance another search, I'll look into this. We've already deciphered the glyphs on the Tenno though. They aren't too varied or interesting, save for the HADEN TENO inscription. The search is pretty much over. All that's left now is checking for any remaining discrepancies or ironing out the chart I made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toppien Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 here latron has runes too, maybe vandal weapons as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shadow_Of_Hunhow Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 here latron has runes too, maybe vandal weapons as well.. I believe the boar has something too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallordD Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 re-titled to remove some confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmeliaK Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/319543-orokintenno-runic-language-writing-initiative/ I'm not quite sure if it's alright to have made this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)NIGHTELFMERC Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I was doing some fiddling and i think the lotus symbols writing simply says Warframe. Y can be used a W and it looks to me like. though it use the "O" symbol rather than "A", it could be the fact that their languange doesnt use "A" in the same way. then the Orokin banner looks like it reads "evo(L or N)(Y or W)sim." at first i thought evolution. but for obvious reasons i doubt it says that. i could be very very wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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