Why Are Corpus Bad?

[Sitchrea]

Okay, so I've done my research and I know all about how the Grineer enslave colonies via a National Socialist Police State; they are definitely the bad guys, and I take every oppurtunity to put them down. But what are Corpus? They are traders, merchants, and technology fanatics. But none of those things are bad, are they? They just want money, so why do we kill them?

 

Okay, so I get why we go at Alad V's assets all the time - he purposefully targets Tenno in order to kill us and use our Frames against us (Zanuka), and I assume that it is his troops that we constantly harrass. But two questions come to mind... If he is not representative of all the Corpus but only a fraction of the Organization, why in the name of the Lotus does he have so many ships?

 

I beg for an explanation why we constantly target Corpus installations and vessels. Leaving out Alad V, who I assume does not lead most of the millions of Corpus we slaughter, why do we massacre them for no foreseeable cause? They have made significant progress in delaying the advance of the Grineer across the system, and in fact have significantly better technology ala the Jackals, Hyenas, and Raptor drone they mass produce, presumably to fight the Grineer.

 

I implore the Lotus to give us intelligence on any deplorable actions being taken by the Corpus on the people of the Origin System; otherwise our quest to restore balance would indeed entail that out objective is the complete and utter destruction of the Grineer.

[Reliant213]

Warframe is really a morally grey area, as it constantly begs the question "Who are the baddies here?".

 

Nice observation though, + 1.

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Long story short.

 

We kill the Corpus because they are a threat to the balance of the Sol System..

 

And the Grineer are most definitely not a Socialist government, they are 100% Fascist.

[ra9una]

Because they aren't like us. (Ring any bells?)

[Sitchrea]

Long story short.

 

We kill the Corpus because they are a threat to the balance of the Sol System..

 

And the Grineer are most definitely not a Socialist government, they are 100% Fascist.

We say "Balance," but what balance would there not be if we only kill the Grineer? the Corpus run interplanetary trade, and the Grineer fight the Corpus due to their Entrepreneurial freedoms. Grineer fight the freedoms of innocents, and deserve death at the end of Reaper Prime blade, but Corpus regularly excercise the right of a Free Market, so... what's bad is the question I still propose.

[Senketsu_]

the Corpus are a Greedy and Corrupt, merchant cult, that worship the Orokin and money. They hate the Tenno and call them the Betrayers because the Tenno killed off the Orokin, but they are still willing to sell to them because Profit numbs the feeling. To my knowledge the Corpus indoctrinate people into the cult and brainwash them.  

Edited September 12, 2014 by Senketsu_

[vaugahn]

And the Grineer are most definitely not a Socialist government, they are 100% Fascist.

 

National Socialism is essentially fascism. 

 

And it's hard to say that any of the factions in warframe are truly good or bad. All of them have their good points and their bad points.

 

Though to be fair the Corpus are pretty nasty, the Grineer at least have (twisted) values, the Corpus will stab each other in the back if they think it'll cut them a profit.

Edited September 12, 2014 by vaugahn

[Sitchrea]

the Corpus are a merchant cult, that worship the Orokin and money. They hate the Tenno and call them the Betrayers because the Tenno killed off the Orokin, but they are still willing to sell to them because Profit numbs the feeling. To my knowledge the Corpus indoctrinate people into the cult and brainwash them.  

Careful that Kyouko doesn't see you with that name, Tenno. XD

 

They may talk bad about us, but as it stands they have yet to fully wage direct confrontation against our operations; Alad V did so, but he was excommunicated for doing so, leading me to believe that the Corpus do not truelly wish to be in conflict with us. Does this mean we are killing those who we should instead be using to fight our true enemy, the Grineer?

[Sitchrea]

National Socialism is essentially fascism. 

 

And it's hard to say that any of the factions in warframe are truly good or bad. All of them have their good points and their bad points.

 

Though to be fair the Corpus are pretty nasty, the Grineer at least have (twisted) values, the Corpus will stab each other in the back if they think it'll cut them a profit.

Is that no different than what many Tenno do on the Marketplace... ? lol if so, it would seem that it would be sufficient to call ourselves a Police of Subjective Morality, not a Force of Absolute Justice.

[Incrodon]

the Corpus are a Greedy and Corrupt, merchant cult, that worship the Orokin and money. They hate the Tenno and call them the Betrayers because the Tenno killed off the Orokin, but they are still willing to sell to them because Profit numbs the feeling. To my knowledge the Corpus indoctrinate people into the cult and brainwash them.  

Your right, but it isnt out of the question that some corpus are more morally correct than others, like in pluto, the corpus there are mostly focused on reconnecting origin system with the rest of humanity, so im sure tenno arnt realy informed about why there attacking most targets, and the only corpus we realy know are the worst of the worst to us [alad] or those directly helping us [darvo].

[locojuan]

did you know that all grineer mechanic enhacements are made and sold to them by the corpus? havent you heard about greedy milk?

 

corpus dont give a *insert fav bad word* about the system at all. if you ever find em fighting the grineer its only because of territory or the grineer got delayed with payment. coprus are as bad as the grineer, trust me. they might not be the slaving and conquering force that the grineer are, but the corpus certainly provide em with tools for such task. for the right price ofcourse.

[vaugahn]

Is that no different than what many Tenno do on the Marketplace... ? lol if so, it would seem that it would be sufficient to call ourselves a Police of Subjective Morality, not a Force of Absolute Justice.

 

That's essentially what we are. We're not enforcing absolute justice on the system, we're enforcing the lotus's idea of justice on the system.

 

Also, if we factor colonists in, it's possible the Corpus are no better than the Grineer. While the Grineer might directly take over your planet, is economic slavery really any different?

[Sitchrea]

Your right, but it isnt out of the question that some corpus are more morally correct than others, like in pluto, the corpus there are mostly focused on reconnecting origin system with the rest of humanity, so im sure tenno arnt realy informed about why there attacking most targets, and the only corpus we realy know are the worst of the worst to us [alad] or those directly helping us [darvo].

If we are not informed, I would implore the Lotus to tell or show us how corrupt they truelly are, and give a us as good a reason to fight them as we do the Grineer. ((New quest?))

 

 

did you know that all grineer mechanic enhacements are made and sold to them by the corpus? havent you heard about greedy milk?

 

corpus dont give a *insert fav bad word* about the system at all. if you ever find em fighting the grineer its only because of territory or the grineer got delayed with payment. coprus are as bad as the grineer, trust me. they might not be the slaving and conquering force that the grineer are, but the corpus certainly provide em with tools for such task. for the right price ofcourse.

Yet due to recent events in the Gradivus Sector with the Grineer making active encroachments and occupations of Corpus installations, I do not see the Corpus doing much successful bussiness with any Grineer at the moment. As far as we know, the schematics for Biomechanical Enhancements could have been sold to the Grineer before their relations began to degrade, leaving them in open conflict at the moment, the exact opposite of what a lucrative trade agreement would bring.

[locojuan]

Your right, but it isnt out of the question that some corpus are more morally correct than others, like in pluto, the corpus there are mostly focused on reconnecting origin system with the rest of humanity, so im sure tenno arnt realy informed about why there attacking most targets, and the only corpus we realy know are the worst of the worst to us [alad] or those directly helping us [darvo].

 

nope. what they are doing there is trying to open and hold more trade routes, and ofcourse make sure it belongs to them, and only to them. they want complete control of the economy. how far is that from what the grineer do? now, what SOME tenno do with the solar rails, while very similar, only affects other tenno. not the rest of the system.

[Sitchrea]

That's essentially what we are. We're not enforcing absolute justice on the system, we're enforcing the lotus's idea of justice on the system.

 

Also, if we factor colonists in, it's possible the Corpus are no better than the Grineer. While the Grineer might directly take over your planet, is economic slavery really any different?

Indeed... What is our exact objective here, and what are our ultimate goals? To subject the colonists of the Origin System to our rule, and none others... ?

[Agullimux]

We kill corpus because detron. 

Edited September 12, 2014 by Agullimux

[Sitchrea]

nope. what they are doing there is trying to open and hold more trade routes, and ofcourse make sure it belongs to them, and only to them. they want complete control of the economy. how far is that from what the grineer do? now, what SOME tenno do with the solar rails, while very similar, only affects other tenno. not the rest of the system.

If a Free Market system is what the Corpus hold amongst themselves, then it would be to the benefit of the colonists; they receive food, shelter, and entertainment. Under Grineer occupation, Colonists are subject to enslavement and harsh policing, as we can hear over our radio interceptions aboard our Lisets.

[Incrodon]

nope. what they are doing there is trying to open and hold more trade routes, and ofcourse make sure it belongs to them, and only to them. they want complete control of the economy. how far is that from what the grineer do? now, what SOME tenno do with the solar rails, while very similar, only affects other tenno. not the rest of the system.

Well, you are quick to get to the point, I think at this point, we can easily assume they want to make profit, [and hopefully reach a solar system that has alout death and chaos and war]. But yeah, you are mostly right, grineer bad, tenno getting more questionable, but I think most people would like to know why they need to butcher countless [possible indoctrinated/mentally numbed] security forces to press a button or disintegrate 2-4 random people or destroy an entire base, Why? [gets distracted by new stuff incoming, realizes that short on credits, proceeds to butcher everything in sight for few credits, the Tenno style]

[Althix]

they are not grineer.

[vaugahn]

If a Free Market system is what the Corpus hold amongst themselves, then it would be to the benefit of the colonists; they receive food, shelter, and entertainment. Under Grineer occupation, Colonists are subject to enslavement and harsh policing, as we can hear over our radio interceptions aboard our Lisets.

 

I'd imagine life in a Corpus-controlled area would feel more like a Chinese factory city than anything else. Food shelter and entertainment cut into profits after all.

[Renegade343]

The Corpus is not that bad, but they are very, very stingy (I mean, who in the world would equip their men [that may need to get into space and such every now and then] with helmets that can be shot off from a stray bullet?)

[locojuan]

Yet due to recent events in the Gradivus Sector with the Grineer making active encroachments and occupations of Corpus installations, I do not see the Corpus doing much successful bussiness with any Grineer at the moment. As far as we know, the schematics for Biomechanical Enhancements could have been sold to the Grineer before their relations began to degrade, leaving them in open conflict at the moment, the exact opposite of what a lucrative trade agreement would bring.

have you been to the shipyards? (ceres) yhe grineer dont have the technology to produce those enhacements. they depend on the corpus to provide those. how they managed to buld fomorians ships? i do not know, but is general knowledge that the grineer are far behind in the technology field. and dont forget the grineer are clones, and they need those parts all the time. i understand if you want to favor the corpus, but dont fool your self, they will stab you in the back if they can get profit out of it. the gineer and the corpus form a very sick kind of symbiosis, in which one needs the other to survive. but make no mistake, as soon as one of the two finds a way to get free from the other, its all over.

[vaugahn]

general knowledge that the grineer are far behind in the technology field. 

 

They're not that far behind. 

 

Their mechanical augments are not Corpus-made, we know that much, and they've even recently figured out how to make directed energy weapons. They also have artificial gravity, extensive engineering knowledge, and the ability to create extremely compact energy sources.

[Phatose]

Neptune.  Home of the corpus and their "indoctrination temples".  I think it's probably safe to say pure capitalists don't run indoctrination temples.

 

And remember the "The profit" trailer?  Alad V catches us and chops us up.  And then he sells our body parts.  To the other corpus, who are ever so happy to bid.
 

 

 

Oh, and if you ever want proof that the corpus are not nice, try this:  Go into one of their spaceships, stay stealthy, and shoot out a window with a corpus in the room.

 

The room vacuums out.  The doors lock immediately - which means the corpus internal systems can clearly detect there has been a breach and the section is exposed to hard vacuum.   And the safety shutters.....don't close.  You have to actually go over to a terminal, in hard vacuum, and hack it to get the room to drop it's sealing shutters, despite the fact that the ship has clearly detected the breach and locked the doors.

 

Consider that.  They don't know you're there, so it's not about you.  This is what happens if an industrial accident on a corpus ship blows out a window.  They lock the doors, and any poor bastard in there is only going to survive if they make it over to the security terminal and manually put down the safety shutters.

 

That's Darth Vader level non-OSHA compliance.  These are not pleasant, upstanding moral beacons we're talking about.

[Sitchrea]

have you been to the shipyards? (ceres) yhe grineer dont have the technology to produce those enhacements. they depend on the corpus to provide those. how they managed to buld fomorians ships? i do not know, but is general knowledge that the grineer are far behind in the technology field. and dont forget the grineer are clones, and they need those parts all the time. i understand if you want to favor the corpus, but dont fool your self, they will stab you in the back if they can get profit out of it. the gineer and the corpus form a very sick kind of symbiosis, in which one needs the other to survive. but make no mistake, as soon as one of the two finds a way to get free from the other, its all over.

((The skybox on Ceres shows Fomorian Ships under construction in massive mile-high drydocks, so they get that tech from somewhere))

 

Do not think I may favor the Corpus, they die as easily as Grineer; I merely wish to know why we do so. A definitive, irrefutable answer declaring and showing the Corpus to be completely evil and worthy of a campaign against.