Agullimux Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Could accelerant add fire status chance or WoF has some minor 10-20%?Fireball has 50% Ring of fire have 100% I never seen World of Fire putting anyone under status effect? Is WoF explosion rate really under RNGJesus? "explosions occur at a rate of roughly 2 to 4.5 per second." source: warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Ember_(Warframe) ability section Is Ember now in perfect balanced position that no reason to twink her abilities? Edited September 12, 2014 by Agullimux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I'd say she's close. Ring of fire really needs a reworking. It's not fun to use, nor that effective. I don't like abilities that block my line of sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Ring of Fire's pretty crap. Replace it with Overheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sharp_Demonologist Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I use her most of the time, pretty safe to say shes my main and i love her like a piromaniac loves his matches. For me shes pretty close to be that pyromaniac goddess but what drives her back is World on Fire feeling a bit lackluster and her Ring of fire is crap. Maybe change Ring of fire to something that adds sustain, maybe something that heals her for each enemy on fire near her, like a real fire. And as you said give WoF 100% change to ablaze targets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nintega Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Ring of Fire's pretty crap. Replace it with Overheat. All of this. And giving WoF some kind of AoE or multi-hit potential would be good, having an ult limited to one target at a time isn't ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirmyBurrito Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Ring of Fire's pretty crap. Replace it with Overheat. Why would a non-tank get a tanking ability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybridon Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 All of this. And giving WoF some kind of AoE or multi-hit potential would be good, having an ult limited to one target at a time isn't ideal. If it dealt Blast status, it would be great, imho, that way you owuld have groups of enemies falling down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinKenshin Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 just press 2 then a lot of 1s....that's all you needand personally, she's way too far to be perfect (except for the hot bada$$ looks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Ring of Fire's pretty crap. Replace it with Overheat. gotta agree on that, so she can have a better survivability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Why would a non-tank get a tanking ability? because being alive is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulEchelon Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 because being alive is good. My Ember has survived without it. Not every warframe needs to stand in the middle of gunfire and spam a tanking ability to be good. Anyway, on topic-wise, Ember's one of my favorites. However she's sadly not on par with literally every other warframe. She could use another look - though simple tweaks would be enough. Maybe higher DoT damage for her abilities, or perhaps Fireblast being unpenetrable by enemies but penetrable by gunfire. And World on Fire hitting ALL enemies in its range, not just 2 or 3 at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agullimux Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 My Ember has survived without it. Not every warframe needs to stand in the middle of gunfire and spam a tanking ability to be good. Anyway, on topic-wise, Ember's one of my favorites. However she's sadly not on par with literally every other warframe. She could use another look - though simple tweaks would be enough. Maybe higher DoT damage for her abilities, or perhaps Fireblast being unpenetrable by enemies but penetrable by gunfire. And World on Fire hitting ALL enemies in its range, not just 2 or 3 at a time. I don't know why but i got impression that she is supposed to be class cannon. Yet i get a bit feeling she is not that much more damage than other frames when comparing tankyness and damage. I like that that she is not press one button and afk. Good to hear ideas. Small Aoe explosion to WoF might not be op. Pure aoe damage around her sounds so powerfull that it might be op. Fireball higher dot damage or fireball not stopping shooting/reloading (like volt's shock) or higher status chance would be nice. Ring of Fire... nobody likes it how it is now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirmyBurrito Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 because being alive is good. [Obligatory 'Git Gud'] If you need a tanking skill to stay alive, you're doing something wrong... or you should stick to playing tanky frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrackingBiscuit Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Why would a non-tank get a tanking ability? Ask Mirage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawGritz Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Would be great to target an area and have ring of fire ignite in that area. With 100% Fire proc. I also think Ember needs some sort of immunity toward fire...or significant dmg reduction from fire. Edited September 12, 2014 by RawGritz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirmyBurrito Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Ask Mirage. I'll let you do that as I never said/implied that I was in support of Mirage having a tanking skill (even one as wonky as her's). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agullimux Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Would be great to target an area and have ring of fire ignite in that area. With 100% Fire proc. I also think Ember needs some sort of immunity toward fire...or significant dmg reduction from fire. Ember bends power to fire. Ember could reverse incoming fire back to pure power? 100 fire dmg= 50 power and 50 damage? Ring of Fire aimable to any spot sounds best idea so far for that spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawGritz Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Ember bends power to fire. Ember could reverse incoming fire back to pure power? 100 fire dmg= 50 power and 50 damage? Ring of Fire aimable to any spot sounds best idea so far for that spell. Right back at you. Your idea of her converting fire dmg to special ability energy is fantastic. I would love to play her with these two abilities. Slap on a Rage mod and she could be quite awesome. Edited September 12, 2014 by RawGritz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasmir Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Why would a non-tank get a tanking ability? Mirage says hi ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril1204 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 2 gripes I have playing her after maining Rhino and Loki: She's crazily slow Her Fireblast is lackluster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agullimux Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) 2 gripes I have playing her after maining Rhino and Loki: She's crazily slow Her Fireblast is lackluster Because she is slow. One grazy idea for Ring of Fire (fire blast)What if we would get fire feet instead. Diablo 2 blaze ( http://diablo.gamepedia.com/Blaze_(Diablo_II) ) Some movement speed and we could draw fire lines. 100% fire status?It would help her being active running around doing fire stuff. I'm starting to be out of all ideas. Edited September 12, 2014 by Agullimux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril1204 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Because she is slow. One grazy idea for Ring of Fire (fire blast) What if we would get fire feet instead. Diablo 2 blaze ( http://diablo.gamepedia.com/Blaze_(Diablo_II) ) Some movement speed and we could draw fire lines. 100% fire status? It would help her being active running around doing fire stuff. I'm starting to be out of all ideas. Yes, because she's slow. If DE would increase her speed, I can feel more comfortable using her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPandemonium Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Make 4 a toggle. Replace 3 with something useful or add a useful effect to it. Increase sprint speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luditte Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 i they could make 3 something akin to flame dash with guaranteed fire proc(or a nonstackable armor debuff which would benefit her greatly) on entry and exit positions while leaving behind a 1-2 second flame zone. something that provides mobility and stun. fireball is lackluster and she has no solid response vs gun toting enemies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 My Ember has survived without it. Not every warframe needs to stand in the middle of gunfire and spam a tanking ability to be good. [Obligatory 'Git Gud'] If you need a tanking skill to stay alive, you're doing something wrong... or you should stick to playing tanky frames. >le huehueheuehue he must be bad I have no problem surviving with Ember, but Overheat was a fantastic ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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