Balduron04 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Soma Prime with only 12 Total Damage ..? Soma > Soma Prime { Impact: 1.0 > 1.2 Puncture: 4.0 > 4.8 Slash: 5.0 > 6.0 Fire Rate: 15 > 15 Crit. Chance: 30.0% > 30.0% Crit. Multi.: 3.0x > 3.0x Status: 7% > 10% Magazine: 100 > 200 Capacity: 540 > 800 Reload: 3.0 > 3.0 } what do you think, is this enough for a prime weapon? edit: Reload: 3.0 to 2.0 edit to 3.0 I would rather have had 10 more critical chance than 20% more base damage. I've looked at the math, and 40 crit is 25% more damage than 30 crit once you throw it through all the mods. Even if you do both, that's a 50% increase in dps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric1738 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I would rather have had 10 more critical chance than 20% more base damage. I've looked at the math, and 40 crit is 25% more damage than 30 crit once you throw it through all the mods. Even if you do both, that's a 50% increase in dps. so u r basically asking for more dps or u want it be more OP. nah, we had boltor prime problem already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balduron04 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I'm asking to give the 2 damage back for 10% more crit so I can have more consistency in my damage. Is this something wrong to ask for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-SLX-J3tAc3 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Critical damage and critical chance increase seems to make more sense than base increase, since the weapon is obviously crit reliant. Increase the reload speed to 2.0 as well, and I'd call her fixed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fari Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 but now I'm forced to deal with comboing fire before I can pick up a second basic or advanced element. u wot, if you add two element mods to a gun it uses them instead of the base. http://i.imgur.com/YTGuq32.png proof. If you add a third mod, whichever's closest to bottom right would combo with it, but with only two it stays separate. You're right that you couldn't have another basic element though, you'd never be able to have a basic element on it for that matter, besides from fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocent_Flower Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 So much better than what I feared, Somewhat worse than what I'd hoped. -It's not morbidly more powerful than the original soma. -It's at boltor prime levels of power. Too powerful. Then again I'd say the original soma was too powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterUltimate Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Have you tried playing past 20mins t4 ? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrvei Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I for one am very unhappy that the crit is the same, other primes have better crit, so why not on the only prime gun that needs it??? total bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythblaze Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I for one am very unhappy that the crit is the same, other primes have better crit, so why not on the only prime gun that needs it??? total bs I feel the same way and then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocent_Flower Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Perhaps you only feel that way because A: you're not fantastic with numbers. B: You're expecting t5 Seriously. The soma Kills everything really fast. The Soma prime kills everything 20% faster, and you don't need to reload as much. You're already on the edge of the cliff of OP, going further would be bad. a 5% extra crit chance is nothing compared to that extra 2 damage. Edited December 17, 2014 by Innocent_Flower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZayTM Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Is everyone seriously upset that the best LMG in the game isn't the BESTEST LMG in the game?The Soma was already the best non-prime rifle in the game and rivaled the Boltor Prime in effectiveness in skilled hands. I'm pretty happy with Soma Prime if only because of its increased ammo pool, it now has a definitive reason to use it over the BP: longevity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zagrax Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 That 2 damage is actually fairly significant after crit multipliers/damage/elemental mods when factored into the weapons overall dps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EetNotErn Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I'm shaking my head at the community that thinks this rifle isn't "good enough". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorgal_Sina Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Tried a full damage build at Warframe Buider. Normal Soma would have a damage of around 1,500. Soma Prime with 2 more damage would have around 1,800 damage. That is of course if you count crit values by chance. If both bullets crit, the damages of both would be higher. To give a perspective, Boltor Prime deals around 2,000 damage with a full damage build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burq Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I'm confused by this thread, because, when rumors of a Soma Prime started, people were crying to high heaven about power creep, and now that the real thing has come out and it's a nice buff to an already powerful weapon, people are crying to high heaven that it's not power creeped enough? People on these forums confuse me so much all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviantis Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Heh, just you wait until Legendary point strike or vital sense. Then suddenly "Soma Prime OP pls Nerf" x100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duch99pl Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 SOMA is already top tier weapon, its only problem was low ammo efficiency, now that prime version has 800 round cap with 200 round mags, its quite perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duch99pl Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I'm shaking my head at the community that thinks this rifle isn't "good enough". poeple are just dissapointed as now they need to do things besides holding the trigger for 3 seconds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruser Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 You want another OP weapon? Seriously? We are supposed to be fixing the power creep, not making it worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttariel Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Its good that the prime is only a slight upgrade as Soma is already broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythblaze Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I'm confused by this thread, because, when rumors of a Soma Prime started, people were crying to high heaven about power creep, and now that the real thing has come out and it's a nice buff to an already powerful weapon, people are crying to high heaven that it's not power creeped enough? People on these forums confuse me so much all the time. Those people crying where the masses of... well, you know.... Here is what I have to say towards everyone. Do the arithmetic and understand what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPandemonium Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 20% damage increase on a weapon that's situationally (always headshot) already more powerful than Boltor Prime? Obviously @(*()$ sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enchillado Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 SOMA PRIME JOKE? NO, IT'S NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernetix Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 ITT: People unable to see that a buff to an already brilliant weapon make it even more formidable. A 200 round mag combined with a damage and stat chance increase makes for an incredible gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrazilianJoe Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I would have preferred to have teh Soma Prime doing 35% crit chance and 3.3x multiplier instead of +20% damage and same crit chance. Other changes are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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