DemonSentinel Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Really getting sick of this. Been running survival and half my rewards from rotation C have been a Forma BP, yeah like I dont already have 100 of those... Now cant even get Ducats for when the trader comes back around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus106 Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 how do I hold all these forma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtZefar Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Forma BP have popped up quite a bit as of lately. It'd be nice if it was an actual Forma and nor a BP. But DE be like, we need them to grind MORE and MORE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyr-Umbra Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 stealth-nerf-gate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TheYetiMan22 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Link to the post in question, please? /e: Nevermind, found it. But please, take that minute to put a link in your post so others don't have to plow through all the forums where it might have been posted. Sorry. It is all over the forums though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Also Archwing is affected by this nerf! Remove keys/mods from Archwing rot C or add parts to raotation A & B!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus106 Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 DE, why wont you reply to this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOAP_Pmac Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 DE, why wont you reply to this thread? Not enough people have bought prime access yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateSpinDash Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Not enough people have bought prime access yet... Prime Access stuff can be rare, but everything beyond that is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus106 Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Prime Access stuff can be rare, but everything beyond that is stupid. This man gets it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOAP_Pmac Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Prime Access stuff can be rare, but everything beyond that is stupid. I don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateSpinDash Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) I don't understand. DE has to make money, so people will have to live with the fact that the newest primes will be difficult to get. That said, anything else doesn't have an excuse like this. Not even the keys needed to get Prime Access items. 1% chances, especially in difficult to get keys, are also not covered by this, at least not for me. This game should encourage you to spend money (general rule for F2Ps if you ask me), but not punish those who don't. Edited January 6, 2015 by UltimateSpinDash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filas312 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) I believe F2P games are such a hard business because get the screw too tight and you end up with players departing, don't screw it tight enough and you'll be starving because of lack of income. Encouraging players too hard ends up with them noticing and departing, leaving only the hardcore players and the bored crew, while not 'encouraging' enough (or not providing enough content to pay for, while it is worth to pay for it - the decoratives and stuff) ends up with players not noticing how nice you are to them. Which way has DE headed? Honestly, I think they've noticed the screw was too loose and they're trying to tighten it up. Edited January 6, 2015 by Filas312 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibliothekar Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Which way has DE headed? Honestly, I think they've noticed the screw was too loose and they're trying to tighten it up. I just think they tightened them a bit too quickly. You know, the frog in the boiling water thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filas312 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yes, that's for sure. Also I wonder what'll happen to these people who're running Sabotage keys right now - those who didn't know about Primes being removed @ third cache are totally screwed, may it be one key or a hundred, they're scammed, that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatrix7hearts Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I believe F2P games are such a hard business because get the screw too tight and you end up with players departing, don't screw it tight enough and you'll be starving because of lack of income. Encouraging players too hard ends up with them noticing and departing, leaving only the hardcore players and the bored crew, while not 'encouraging' enough (or not providing enough content to pay for, while it is worth to pay for it - the decoratives and stuff) ends up with players not noticing how nice you are to them. Which way has DE headed? Honestly, I think they've noticed the screw was too loose and they're trying to tighten it up. i dont think they had the screw too loose, why? Players spend thousands of plat daily, in trades and has to come from tpaying warframe for them, the discounts promote getting plat as well. And for those who dont want to wait again they have to pay to do so. Nope i think their screw was tight enough and want to tighten it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead_Rabbits Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 T4 survival, fusion cores for 30min straight, forma at 35min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyr-Umbra Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 DE has to make money, so people will have to live with the fact that the newest primes will be difficult to get. That said, anything else doesn't have an excuse like this. Not even the keys needed to get Prime Access items. 1% chances, especially in difficult to get keys, are also not covered by this, at least not for me. This game should encourage you to spend money (general rule for F2Ps if you ask me), but not punish those who don't. I agree completely, I'm fine with deciding to spend money on a game (and if you play warframe as much as I do, you kind of owe it to DE). However, when I feel like a game is forcing me to spend money on it with unreasonable grindwalls, I'm less likely to play the game (warframe isn't there yet, and I hope it never will be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPandemonium Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 T4 survival, fusion cores for 30min straight, forma at 35min. Not gonna lie, I wouldn't mind having some runs be like that, but not all. They should designate certain void missions to have this kind of drop table so that we can get formas and cores readily. I miss a year ago when you could enter a T1 Survival and just chill and get formas; those games had a great, laid back atmosphere and I made a lot of friends there and good memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus106 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 DE dont ignore this thread :0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TheYetiMan22 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 They still haven't commented? Boooooooooooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)j232000 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 i dont think they had the screw too loose, why? Players spend thousands of plat daily, in trades and has to come from tpaying warframe for them, the discounts promote getting plat as well. And for those who dont want to wait again they have to pay to do so. Nope i think their screw was tight enough and want to tighten it again. We know for a fact that the screw is tighter than they wanted it to be, at least in one case. The drops in Void Sabotage were set under the assumption that we'd be rolling twice per mission; thanks to the lazy anti-exploit update those keys are producing half as much as intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 T4 survival, fusion cores for 30min straight, forma at 35min. most players i know play for cores and credits anyway now. drops are so unbelievable bad. just image u will get 3-4 forma bps? :-)))) so cores are much better with current primed mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus106 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 guys I have an idea if they overlook this topic (somehow). Why not draw attention to it by linking it or just talking about it when today's update is rolled out? DE always reads the update topics so it's a good plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibliothekar Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Why not draw attention to it by linking it or just talking about it when today's update is rolled out? Don't think that's a good idea. Put it in the thread for Friday's devstream, it's much more fitting there and we might actually get an answer. And it'll even be on tape ... *whistles innocently* Edited January 7, 2015 by Bibliothekar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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