.Talia. Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 IF its gets HEADSHOTS. Oh great... so if the boltor headshots it still out DPS's it. Nope.Boltor Prime headshots deals x1.5 as all normal headshots.The beauty of the Soma/Prime is that the Headshots makes the x6.6 crits turn into x9.9 (6.6 x 1.5 = 9.9) AND THAT'S SOMETHING NO "WARFRAME-BUILDER" WILL TELL YA!! Basically the Headshot DPS of the Soma Prime is 3.3x higher than the body shots.While the Boltor Prime Headshot DPS is 0.5x higher than the body shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahrzerkire Posted December 24, 2014 Author Share Posted December 24, 2014 So, you're pointing out the difference between a single shot of the two crit weapons while completely ignoring their massive firerate differences and projectile types. Why? Okay doke: 1760 * 1.5 firerate = 2640 DPS ( Charged shots being fired off as fast as possible) ... oh S#&$ Soma Prime (Vile Accel) 4479 DPS... Whoops you guys were right. F*** me. Sorry XD. Its fine DPS wise. Guess I really wanted to see it red crit. And not be overshadowed by the Boltor Prime. A Weapon that at non prime status was S#&$ compared to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LythronaxPrime Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 QQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currystador Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I DIDNT SAY BUFF DAMAGE JESUS. JUST CRIT CHANCE. WHICH = BUFF DAMAGE JESUS. seriously no need to get so upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyv001 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 The Soma Prime is in a wonderful spot as is. It looks good, it sounds good, and in my builds at least, it out-damages the Boltor Prime. It's hit-scan even, so no need to "lead" your shots. Oh, and if I'm not mistaken, it picks up 50 ammo from rifle drops instead of 20 ammo. It spools up faster, that too. The Soma was my first "must have" weapon I worked towards when I first got into warframe. And now I own the primed variant. I love this gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityPrime Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) Nope. Boltor Prime headshots deals x1.5 as all normal headshots. The beauty of the Soma/Prime is that the Headshots makes the x6.6 crits turn into x9.9 (6.6 x 1.5 = 9.9) AND THAT'S SOMETHING NO "WARFRAME-BUILDER" WILL TELL YA!! Basically the Headshot DPS of the Soma Prime is 3.3x higher than the body shots. While the Boltor Prime Headshot DPS is 0.5x higher than the body shots. It actually looks like body crit shots do the normal x6.6 and the headshot crits do x6.6 x4 (x13.2) as host while normal shots do 2x headshot damage. I assume this becomes x6.6 x8 (x52.8) as clients. Edited December 24, 2014 by KnotOfMetal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Tzek4- Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) Okay doke: 1760 * 1.5 firerate = 2640 DPS ( Charged shots being fired off as fast as possible) ... oh S#&$ Soma Prime (Vile Accel) 4479 DPS... Whoops you guys were right. F*** me. Sorry XD. Its fine DPS wise. Guess I really wanted to see it red crit. And not be overshadowed by the Boltor Prime. A Weapon that at non prime status was S#&$ compared to it. much approve, now people should back off, and judging form the comments alot of people just replied to the first page... :/ sorry being a jerk Edited December 24, 2014 by -Ignis_Fatuus- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Talia. Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 It actually looks like body crit shots do the normal x6.6 and the headshot crits do x6.6 x4 (x13.2) as host. I assume this becomes x6.6 x8 (x52.8) as clients. Yes but let's not consider the client critical multiplier glitch, that's probably gonna get fixed. (At least it should) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hueminator Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 They should buff MR of Soma Prime to 12 :-" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkillo32 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 What I propose doesnt make it siginifcantly more or less OP. Just increases the crit chance. Thats all. which would make it have a 112.5% crit chance making it alot more op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currystador Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Arguing for a nerf is easy, same as arguing for something to stay the way it is. However arguing for a buff is a pain in the ! without a glaring issue that everyone sees. dude just stop. you wont win this. 99.9% of the people here think its in a perfect spot right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahrzerkire Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 much approve, now people should back off, and judging form the comments alot of people just replied to the first page... :/ sorry being a jerk Thanks. And yeah. Sokay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temmron Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Warframe is no longer in beta. It went out of beta after it was released on the Xbox. Furthermore do some people not understand that the soma outdpses the boltor prime. Increasing the crit chance Further increases the damage by a huge margin. All I seem to hear bububu soma p isnt op as duck and makes any other weapon UN-viable for end-game. Get over it the soma prime is a good weapon be happy with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruser Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 It already has twice the magazine size and increased ammo. It even has a shorter wind up time. I'm pretty sure it does not need anything else, maybe a reload speed increase, but other than that, IT'S FINE. There are tons of other weapons that require more attention, we don't need you guys to make the soma a world destroyer. Even the braton prime that just got buffed is still weaker than the soma prime, AND it had an ammo nerf. I'm still doing fine with the braton prime on T4 missions, the Soma Prime does not need to be stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashengrace Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Personally i also believe Soma Prime needs something more. Either it needs the 45% crit increase that OP suggested, or it needs 2 more base damage to be on par with Boltor Prime. As of now Boltor P still seems to retain the biggest heavy hitter title and sustainability in 35+ wave T4D's and 40 min + T4S. Up until that point Soma P is great, but then it has damage falloff. Maybe its just me, but i don't think an old prime should supersede a brand new one. Thusly, Soma P should get some kind of buff so its at least obviously a little bit better than Boltor P. That's my opinion on the subject anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltik0ne Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 It's actually quite good, a few forma in it and it's certainly a top tier weapon. Not quite Boltor Prime level, but its still fun and usable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirmyBurrito Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Warframe is no longer in beta. It went out of beta after it was released on the Xbox. False. Warframe is still in beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rydian Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Warframe is no longer in beta. It went out of beta after it was released on the Xbox. I'd love to see a source for that statement. 'Cause the Open Beta agreement is still in effect. Here's the location and a small screenshot of the file you agreed to when signing up for and installing the game, in case you forgot about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanicManic Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Everyone talking and comparing the soma p and boltor p :( ...and I'm just sitting here comforting and whispering to my paris p it'll always be my #1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePredicament Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 The current buffs: faster spool time, larger magazine, and larger reserve are buffs that pretty much have nothing to do with how the Soma should be used. You can drop all those and add the 100% chance on max Point Strike and it will still be a much better upgrade. 90 count magazine was perfectly fine, so was a 540 reserve, and even the snipe friendly spool up time, the buffs to those were just thrown in for the sake of making the Primed version "stand out". People that have reviewed it like Mogamu, or whatever his name is, have said that the weapon lacks the "Primed" feel, all this is just a Wraith version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortris Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Crit chance buff = DPS buff. Damage Buff = Physical Damage types (base damage type) increase. I DONT WANT A DAMAGE BUFF. I WANT A DPS BUFF. Proof that OP is trolling, everyone go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira_him Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 The Soma Prime is fine It deals mainly slash no red-crits a direct upgrade of the soma in all sense rewards the skilled player more (head-shots) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaveCricket48 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Its about getting justice for the gun! The gun deserves better, if I want to mow people down, I break out my braton prime, or my Amprex, or my boltor, hell my soma, but the soma prime. Just feels wrong right now, it doesnt crit enough. seeing 300 damage come out of your soma 25% of the time, its annoying, and very dissappointing. So Soma > Soma Prime? Damn, better shelve my newly acquired Soma Prime and dust off my Soma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 So Soma > Soma Prime? Damn, better shelve my newly acquired Soma Prime and dust off my Soma. Not at all. Here's the numbers, according to wfbuilder. I'm using the same build for both, Serration, Split Chamber, Heavy Caliber, Shred, Vital Sense, Point Strike, Stormbringer, and Infected Clip. The regular Soma does 23196.22 burst DPS, and 14634 sustained DPS. The Soma Prime does 27835.08 burst DPS, and 21535.85 sustained DPS. The OP is most likely forgetting how crit and mod damage calculations work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakshal Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Not at all. Here's the numbers, according to wfbuilder. I'm using the same build for both, Serration, Split Chamber, Heavy Caliber, Shred, Vital Sense, Point Strike, Stormbringer, and Infected Clip. The regular Soma does 23196.22 burst DPS, and 14634 sustained DPS. The Soma Prime does 27835.08 burst DPS, and 21535.85 sustained DPS. The OP is most likely forgetting how crit and mod damage calculations work. I think he/she was being sarcastic. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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