-Jack.Of.Blades- Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) So just to show you how wrong you were about I compared both helmets from the front: Doesn't show much due to the lack of depth so I decided to take a side by side comparison So the Red line indicates the end of the goggles, with the green line roughly estimating where the eyes could be. I know my MS Paint skills are top notch, but disagree if you like, or better yet try it for yourself Well to counter argue to a degree even though I think you're spot on with the users eyes location as a control.The goggles could reroute vision to the owners eyes further up in the helm. Edited March 7, 2015 by -Jack.Of.Blades- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknow99 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 You'll all play him if his powers are top tier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otaiken Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) It's a frame pretending to be a dragon. Not a frame that is a dragon. Chroma as a bad cosplayer... my sides! Omg I can imagine it... Chroma in a flamboyant voice going "You guyyz I'm a draaagon! Roaaar, so fierce!". And then the dumbfounded stares of the playerbase. This whole thing is so hilarious... I'm laughing hard here xD Dat reveal... jesus christ xD and now the turn into discussion about statistics... statistics! Lmao Edited March 7, 2015 by LocoWithGun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achromos Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 In my opinion, "meh" is a bit skewed toward the negative side. "No opinion" would definitely have been better. I'll have to disagree... Meh in my opinion is neither black or white, it's just not caring enough to support a subject at hand positively or negatively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmilingMad Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) Chroma as a bad cosplayer... my sides! Omg I can imagine it... Chroma in a flamboyant voice going "You guyyz I'm a draaagon! Roaaar, so fierce!". And then the dumbfounded stares of the playerbase. This whole thing is so hilarious... I'm laughing hard here xD Yep, this is pretty much going to be the headcanon. I'll have to disagree... Meh in my opinion is neither black or white, it's just not caring enough to support a subject at hand positively or negatively. I'd say its more negative because I associate it with boredom. Meh. See? Bored! Obviously! Of course it depends, but the fact that it CAN be taken negatively like that is enough reason to change it to a more neutral word. Edited March 7, 2015 by SmilingMad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ionus Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 "Meh" is basically the same as no opinion. If that were true, then why was it an option alongside "No Opinion?" Adding redundancy and ambguity to options in a poll can do a lot to skew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 "Meh" is basically the same as no opinion. "Meh" isn't the same as saying "no opinion". "Meh" is basically saying it's not terrible, but it's boring, nothing special, nothing to spend time on. The people who vote "meh" might get the frame for mastery fodder, but they aren't anxious to get their hands on the frame. That is not the same as no opinion. No opinion literally means no opinion, good or bad. "Meh" is saying that it's not terrible, but it's not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eredoc Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) Well to counter argue to a degree even though I think you're spot on with the users eyes locations as a control.The goggles could reroute vision to the owners eyes further up in the helm. Which still doesn't help both Ionus and Sibarian's Case, as the discussion here as to whether or not Zephyr could see as Ionus believes at Zephyr could not see because oh her "Beak". Edited March 7, 2015 by Eredoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jack.Of.Blades- Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) Chroma as a bad cosplayer... my sides! Omg I can imagine it... Chroma in a flamboyant voice going "You guyyz I'm a draaagon! Roaaar, so fierce!". And then the dumbfounded stares of the playerbase. This whole thing is so hilarious... I'm laughing hard here xD Dat reveal... jesus christ xD and now the turn into discussion about statistics... statistics! Lmao Nothing wrong with statistics :D @eredoc Oh I see I thought they were arguing on whether their eyes were properly placed ahah my bad. Edited March 7, 2015 by -Jack.Of.Blades- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ionus Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 So just to show you how wrong you were about I compared both helmets from the front: Doesn't show much due to the lack of depth so I decided to take a side by side comparison So the Red line indicates the end of the goggles, with the green line roughly estimating where the eyes could be. I know my MS Paint skills are top notch, but disagree if you like, or better yet try it for yourself Your positioning of the eyes is off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invalid_Infinity Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 You'll all play him if his powers are top tier... No, I wont because I could care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eredoc Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Your positioning of the eyes is off. May I ask why on earth Zephyr's anatomy changed, also I use Noble stance, which Zephyr can clearly be looking at a Downward angle, rather than side on so no, My eye placement is not off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ionus Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 May I ask why on earth Zephyr's anatomy changed, also I use Noble stance, which Zephyr can clearly be looking at a Downward angle, rather than side on so no, My eye placement is not off You put the eyes near the top of the forehead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achromos Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) Your positioning of the eyes is off. Yea... because peoples eyes usually go UNDER the goggles. You put the eyes near the top of the forehead. Pretty... but, this is assuming that Tenno have 100% accurate human physiology Edited March 7, 2015 by Sibarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ionus Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Yea... because peoples eyes usually go UNDER the goggles. As opposed to being sunk a few inches into their head? It was a fast drawing, I'll admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmilingMad Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 You put the eyes near the top of the forehead. I think that's the issue with the Cierzo helmet, the goggles are positioned in a way that requires Zephyr's forehead to not exist should she wish to look through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknow99 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 No, I wont because I could care less. You wooooonnn't? Are you suuure? :3 Ok. Let's wait until U16 ships then, and I will kindly ask you after we get to know his powers. If he's average/a little weak and you don't use him, you win. If he's doing great & you're still not interested, you win too! If he's full of OPness & you use him : you lose bro. I'd like you & the other people who share your opinion to win, because I appreciate honest people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Drakiza Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 I like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockscl Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 can we just use excalibur´s helmet on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmilingMad Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 can we just use excalibur´s helmet on him? Look, it's dumb, but it's a kind of dumb that I like, and you will not defile it by giving him a better hat. Shoo. Let me keep my flamethrower horn helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryjeon Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 I like that it looks similar to Infested designs, like Lephantis flute head. So it might not look like a classical dragon but it does look like something that would exist in the warframe universe owing to the origins of Tenno and Infested.. It should be fairly easy to introduce interesting vanity alt-helmets while keeping the default helmet as the lore one. So I like this art-direction better than the generic dragon armor some people have been posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eredoc Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) You put the eyes near the top of the forehead. I'm aware of that, also you moved one of her eyes down, Also if you follow the goggles it indicates she's looking down if the eyes were where you proposed, she'd never be able to see, also may I add that your theory only holds up as long as warframes have a 1:1 for Human anatomy, for all we know the orokin could share similar traits but not be completely identical. EDIT: Also I didn't Burrow her eyes 5 inches into her skull, as I stated, the red line is literally and indication as to where the Goggles end, and the green line is where her eyes would be, not once did I imply her eyes are deep in her head. Edited March 8, 2015 by Eredoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invalid_Infinity Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 You wooooonnn't? Are you suuure? :3 Ok. Let's wait until U16 ships then, and I will kindly ask you after we get to know his powers. If he's average/a little weak and you don't use him, you win. If he's doing great & you're still not interested, you win too! If he's full of OPness & you use him : you lose bro. I'd like you & the other people who share your opinion to win, because I appreciate honest people... I don't care how OP something is. If it is OP then it is imbalanced. I don't like imbalance. Just like I don't like ugly frames. Dislike on both ends leads to me not using him. Mastery fodder? Maybe, assuming I cared about mastery after rank 14. So no, unless they change it I am not interested and I will not be using plat if I ever feel the need to master that frame. I dislike it highly and I believe it was a terrible representation of what a dragon theme frame would look like. Yes older frames don't look like their names but they at least look like their themes. (Stealth, sound, tank, swordsman, ect.) Chroma does not do that, he looks infested. He was supposed to be dragon themed. He is not currently dragon themed. That is an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Drakiza Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Oberon is still my favorite. I wonder how his ablilites will play out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holeypaladin Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Perhaps Chroma is supposed to be an infected frame? With the return of the J3 Golem, it might actually make sense to add in an infected-themed frame. I don't see how infected = dragon, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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