NalkorRN Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Here's why it was nerfed: Enough people had spent platinum on the thing (inventory space, tater, formas maybe) that DE knew most people were more or less done building it. So they nerfed it in preparation for the next overpowered secondary. That's how Power Creep works. DE will keep repeating this cycle (and it's been going for a long time, namely since Formas were introduced). There will never be balance, because then people will stop spending money on whatever shiny new thing DE craps out and gives to you as 'content'. These are the same people who, shortly before data-mining was hindered via encryption, nerfed Forma drop-rate down to like, 0.67% or lower on one update back in U9 I think, claimed it was dilution, data-miners found out the truth and put it out on the forums and my god, the entire forums exploded with so much rage that within 3 hours, DE_Sheldon had to come onto the forums, apologize to everyone over the deception, and then to placate everyone after changing the drop-rate values back, gave every one 50 platinum. That's how DE does things, the stealth nerfs are nothing new, not at all, and as always, when caught, they offer up any kind of excuse to calm you guys down and never use full documented patch notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanctumDraconis Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I will start a petition for removing your petition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catastropherz Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 To OP, do you even know the ORIGINAL STATS of SG before the 15.5.5 buffed?? It's even worse than current SG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genzaio Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Yeaaaaaa-No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UseNet Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GildedTuna Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Edited March 24, 2015 by LuxLo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuyver Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) I hope they nerf the damage on it too just to be spiteful, because I'm sick of seeing thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread about it. Edited March 24, 2015 by TheGuyverOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgotten_Aeon Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Yup, sadly you're not going to get much sympathy here. Though I think the nerf went a bit too far (5x ammo consumtion would of been more workable) the weapon was insane and needed re-balancing. On a side note, ran the raid the other day and the entire raid (sans me) were all using the Vaykor Marelok... all hail the new reinstated king. This, so much. I would have been happy with a 30-50% base damage reduction, leaving the other stats as they were. Gammacor does 50? Make the Synoid Gammacor do 120. A flat, simple, easy upgrade from those going from one to the other if they enjoyed the weapon. Now vaykor erryday- until U17, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 This, so much. I would have been happy with a 30-50% base damage reduction, leaving the other stats as they were. Gammacor does 50? Make the Synoid Gammacor do 120. A flat, simple, easy upgrade from those going from one to the other if they enjoyed the weapon. Now vaykor erryday- until U17, of course. You uh... you realize that the damage was actually untouched, right? The math is just a little different now is all. The previous damage was 210. The current damage is 28, but the firerate was also increased 7.5x. 28 x 7.5 = 210. It's literally the same amount -- all that was lost was sustained damage. The sky is not falling. Your gun is still usable. You just have to actually swap weapons every now and then so you can build the ammo back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EversorMetus Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 ^Dat reading comprehension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyedRaven Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Your gun is still usable. Most guns in the game are usable and can kill. Some people just don't like to actually pick targets or to leave the trigger alone for a second or two. In fact, SG hasn't been nerfed, it's been *fixed*. It was plain broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spindle99 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 That weapon was a pain in the &#! in pvp. 1 shot everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CephalonShy Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Just give it a rest, op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 To OP, do you even know the ORIGINAL STATS of SG before the 15.5.5 buffed?? It's even worse than current SG. Do it anyways. See how long it takes before they beg for it to be changed back to how it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymerc Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 It's fine as it is. Do this thing called "adapt", or simply store it away forever. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker_mech Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Kish_Lat Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Steroid Gammacon needs another nerf in damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I would like to take this opportunity to thank DE for rebalancing weapons, if only it didn't take too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaikiss Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 to all thosle who are saying tha ammo mutation saves the problem well they have to add 7th slot for ammo mutation to fit in then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntpuffer Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 The amount of people that signed your pathetic petition says enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rd0se Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I never take any thread seriously that is titled with the word petition in it or starts with "Am I the only." Also this will do nothing to get DE to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosferagon Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I agree it needed a nerf, but they went a bit overboard with it. even with an ammo mutation you run out of ammo way too fast now mainly because it´s damage per second. if it was a normal gun you'd be spending 15 ammo per shot and that's without any mods (like lethal torrent, a staple in secondaries). It just doesn't seem like it because its a constant drain instead of an immediate drain on ammo. they need to reach a middle ground for it to really be balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoakinBlackforge Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Every weapon in the game needs to be balanced, there cant be a PERFECT weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyedRaven Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Every weapon in the game needs to be balanced, there cant be a PERFECT weapon. But don't you see? OP and his subscribers (okay there are none)... want the "one weapon to rule them all". Which is... not what reasonable players want, but according to the many whine-threads and -posts there's a good portion among the players who *do* want broken stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightly_Salted Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Simple work around well mostly workaround, did Syn Gam and Melee 30min T1 Surv no Primary (Solo): Catalyst ~ and Y Polarities (1 of each) My Current Fit after change: Hornet Strike R9 Lethal Torrent - Maxed Barrel Diffusion - Maxed Pistol Ammo Mutations - Maxed Pistol Gambit - Maxed Target Cracker - Maxed Trick Mag - Maxed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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