TopSpeed Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Hello Tenno I love the Supra the look the sound and the mechanic But i dont love the Reload time Recoil Aiming and Low damage how come Weapons in the Dojo that need Forma + rank should be so bad ! ? i think end game weapons in the Dojo need to be buff, i cant stand the soma Boltor run any more, we have so many Weapons nice looking and fun to use but they are so bad ! they only in the inventory for Collectors or for later if they needed to build Oder bad weapon that need them (what up with that !?) HERE ARE THE LIST (is my list you can feel free to not agree with me) Need A bad Buff to be some thing: Energy: Dera,Flux,Lanka,Prova,Serro,Spectra,Spectra,Supra,Dual Cestra Bio: Mutalist Quanta,Paracyst Chem: Buzlok,Ignis(so bad now) _______________________________________________________________________ Need A Rebalance : Embolist,Grinlok,Jat Kittag,Dual Raza Thx for Reading and Commenting Edited June 10, 2015 by TopSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr33hn Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 DE balance is not for mortal men to understand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urlan Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I don't think its fair to judge the clantech gear by the Supra but I would have to agree that some of them are unwhelming considering the cost and time required to research and construct them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopSpeed Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 I don't think its fair to judge the clantech gear by the Supra but I would have to agree that some of them are unwhelming considering the cost and time required to research and construct them. you right not all weapons in the Dojo are bad, Acrid is very good one and Opticore and we some more .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashingGudTime Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 you right not all weapons in the Dojo are bad, Acrid is very good one and Opticore and we some more .... i stopped trusting you at "Acrid is VERY good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gale47 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I dunno, I'm playing T4 survival just fine with my Braton Prime/Tiberon/Amprex/Prisma Gorgon/Sybaris/Attica... should I continue?The thing is, most weapons will carry you just fine for the first 30 minutes when modded properly. The Soma Prime and Boltor Prime only become necessary for later tiers, and honestly, I don't see the point in playing that long anyway unless you're trying to break a record of some sort. That said, a rebalance IS necessary, and I'm of opinion that DE are working on that matter beneath the hood all along, preparing a proper balancing patch for its eventual release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsterwithin Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 i stopped trusting you at "Acrid is VERY good" Acrid is decent with the augment mod. I say Opticor and Dual ichor is the best weapons in the whole dojo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatzeputt Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Go to the buff supra thread, express your support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentcheese Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 if i remember right the prova was almost as bad as the ones prodmen would use against you. great for being realistic,terrible for a gameplay discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognj Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Torid is also one of the better weapons IF used properly, dual ichors and Opticor and Nikana ( since you need regular to upgrade to the D ) are good weapons.However I do agree that clantech weapons should have been better, atleast they could give some of the less impressive weapons 2 polarities or something, It is a bit strange that some of the weapons cost a lot of resources and even some of them demands a decently high mastery rank compared to other non clan weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grom-84 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Not all of them i must say but for the most part i like only 2-3 per each available research lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K0bra Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Guys you forgot the Amprex and Synapse.I think alot of the Clan tech weapons are bad and not worth the farming effords of the ressources but there are some pearls like this two. Edited June 9, 2015 by K0bra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalenath Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Four words. Phage Amphrex Torid Ogris Also- Nikana (required to make Dragon Nikana) Jat Kittag Opticor Serro Some of the most powerful weapons in game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnstrider Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Opticor, Jat Kittag, Amprex, Dual Ichor, Quanta, Phage, Torid, Marelok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopSpeed Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 Go to the buff supra thread, express your support! I did, but is not just the supra it bad, :D we have some more Dojo Weapon that need a buff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance.Stubbs Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Opticor, Jat Kittag, Amprex, Dual Ichor, Quanta, Phage, Torid, Marelok Now let's list garbage research weapons... Dera, Dual Cestra,Supra, Glaxion (after nerf), Flux Rifle (after damage 2.0), Prova, Spectra, Mutalist Quanta (after nerf), Acrid (after damage 2.0), Paracyst, Pyrana, Silva and Aegis, Venka. Edited June 9, 2015 by Vance.Stubbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelialFallen Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I dunno. 8 really good weapons versus 12 kind of okay, but not really weapons isn't a terrible ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeSorcerer Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Most are S#&$, some are good. Honorable mentions: Quanta, Amprex, Synapse, Phage, Marelok, Grinlok(Dont know if these are clantech), Jat Kittag. This is pretty much everything. All of the others are trash. Weapons I like you might hate: Daikyu, opticor, Sybaris, Torid Edited June 9, 2015 by HandsomeSorcerer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)rengence Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 "Below lvl 30 it doesn't matter what you have, above lvl 70, it doesn't matter what you have." -words of a wise tenno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)MrNishi Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Now let's list garbage research weapons... Dera, Dual Cestra,Supra, Glaxion (after nerf), Flux Rifle (after damage 2.0), Prova, Spectra, Mutalist Quanta (after nerf), Acrid (after damage 2.0), Paracyst, Pyrana, Silva and Aegis, Venka. I disagree with Spectra...other than not having a Fountain of numbers... Spectra is better than it ever was. I assume Mutalist Quanta is referring to reload Nerf? Or was it nerfed in a different way? (Still works as an unorthodox Crit weapon or crit-setup for non-continous Secondary weapons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djangofett Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 " Why clan weapons are S#&$ " > Amprex > Synapse > Dual Ichor > Phage > Torid Just cause one weapon is weak, does not make the rest as weak as it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altey Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 " Why clan weapons are S#&$ " > Amprex > Synapse > Dual Ichor > Phage > Torid Just cause one weapon is weak, does not make the rest as weak as it. Don't forget Sybaris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelisImpurrator Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Also, Anku. Anku is great. Tonbo is also solid. Interestingly, they're also two of the cheapest clantech weapons, along with Serro which is also good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)MrNishi Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 " Why clan weapons are S#&$ " > Amprex > Synapse > Dual Ichor > Phage > Torid Just cause one weapon is weak, does not make the rest as weak as it. Don't forget Sybaris. Or Tonbo, Serro, Jat Kittag, Opticor, Atterax, Quanta, Itzal, Banshee, Volt, Zephyr [technically not weapons, but clan tech nonetheless] Marelok Some not the best in their class but worth honorable mentions: Grinlok, Daikyu, Nikana, Attica, Lanka, Nami Sklya Almost all the quirky unique Weapons are clan tech...they all have gameplay issues, but have some unique traits that allow them to shine under the right conditions. (Examples: Mutalist Quanta, Paracyst, Embolist, Flash Flood w/Prova works because of electric stun, Buzlok, Nukor, Pyrana...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naqel Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) DE balance is not for mortal men to understand... Steve said in one of the Devstreams, when asked about mods like: Constitution, Diamond Skin, or Ammo Conversion mods; that they like to give players "options" when it comes to fixing the issues. I like to call DE's approach to balance "optional". They won't fix the ammo system, they'll release an optional mod that removes the issue. They won't address the scaling issues, they'll release "primed" mods that let the players scale even harder. They won't address weapon balance issues, they'll just keep pumping newer, stronger, weapons until you like one of those better. Got a problem with a specific piece of gear? Have an exclusive, optional, syndicate mod that helps a bit. Etc, etc, you get the idea. Edited June 9, 2015 by Naqel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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