Acidulant Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) Empowered Blade: Adds Edit: N% Additive Base Damage (Affected by Power Strength) to your current Melee Weapon Enables Automatic Frontal Parry Equivalent Energy Drain to Exalted Blade No Energy Waves I think it's a neat idea for those who want to use thier melee weapon on Excalibur. Thoughts? Edit: All those OP and power creep naggers, Care to elaborate? Of course it's just an idea, values are subject to balancing Edited July 29, 2015 by Acidulant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeetza Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) Thoughts? EXTREMELY OP EDIT: Originally had 250% boost, he edited the "N" in. Edited July 29, 2015 by Jeetza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasRayya Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Madkiller2580 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Power creep much.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acidulant Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) Thoughts? EXTREMELY OP All those OP and power creep naggers, Care to elaborate? Of course it's just an idea, values are subject to balancing Edited July 29, 2015 by Acidulant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)jFresh215 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 The OP is strong with this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)jFresh215 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) All those OP and power creep naggers, Care to elaborate? Of course it's just an idea, values are subject to balancing if you just throw on +200% power strength you are looking at a +750% to base damage. that is absolutely broken with stuff like scindo p drakana and dakra p to name a few. Edited July 29, 2015 by (PS4)jFresh215 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeetza Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 if you just throw on 200% power strength you are looking at a +750% to base damage. that is absolutely broken with stuff like scindo p drakana and dakra p to name a few. ^ I would of said this myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborg-Rox Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 How about we make an augment for Loki which makes him invisible for an hour while we're at it. Oh, and he gets x100 melee damage multiplier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acos Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 All those OP and power creep naggers, Care to elaborate? Of course it's just an idea, values are subject to balancing I like your idea, but your numbers are way off into the 'absurd' stratosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acidulant Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 ^ I would of said this myself. You guys seems to have forgotten that Exalted Blade itself already has 250 base dmg subject to power STR that's modified with all melee mods. Like I said, numbers are subject to balancing. Should've known better, would've left out the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOKIME Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Exalted blade is strong enough already, maybe if instead of damage it gives extra-proc chance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeetza Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 How about we make an augment for Loki which makes him invisible for an hour while we're at it. Oh, and he gets x100 melee damage multiplier. Why not add another zero while we're at it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)jFresh215 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) You guys seems to have forgotten that Exalted Blade itself already has 250 base dmg subject to power STR that's modified with all melee mods. Like I said, numbers are subject to balancing. Should've known better, would've left out the numbers. but it doesn't take a melee's base damage into account. it scales with melee mods but the 250 isn't a percentage it's just flat damage. Edited July 29, 2015 by (PS4)jFresh215 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acidulant Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) but it doesn't take a melee's base damage into account. it scales with melee mods but the 250 isn't a percentage it's just flat damage. 155% Power STR = 387.5 Base Damage Presssure Point 120% Base Damage = 387.5+(387.5*1.2) = 852.5 base damage on Blade and Wave Pressure Point + Bright Purity = 220% Base Damage = 1240 Base Damage on Blade and Wave Edited July 29, 2015 by Acidulant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)jFresh215 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) 155% Power STR = 387.5 Base Damage Presssure Point 120% Base Damage = 387.5+(387.5*1.2) = 852.5 base damage on Blade and Wave Pressure Point + Bright Purity = 220% Base Damage = 1240 Base Damage on Blade and Wave yea but if you give drakana a +750% base damage you are looking at roughly 831 damage unmodded that's 1828 damage with just PP. more than the damage of EB with those two mods. Edited July 29, 2015 by (PS4)jFresh215 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acidulant Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) yea but if you give drakana a +750% base damage you are looking at roughly 831 damage unmodded that's 2661 damage with just those 2 mods. more than double the damage of EB. You have to take into account that EB hits both with its blade and wave, so, no it's not double dmg of EB Anyway, numbers are not important. It was just an idea, of course numbers are subject to balancing. Seems to have the entire thread derailed since the beginning by numbers on a idea-not-even-born Edited July 29, 2015 by Acidulant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)jFresh215 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 You have to take into account that EB hits both with its blade and wave, so, no it's not double dmg of EB Anyway, numbers are not important. It was just an idea, of course numbers are subject to balancing. Seems to have the entire thread derailed since the beginning by numbers on a idea-not-even-born but the numbers are very important when looking at a mod and the effects it has on an ability/weapon. you asked for thoughts. The consensus was that with those numbers, it would be something that would be way too powerful. We all understand it's a concept but you asked for clarity on our answers and you see that the damage you can get with the mod is power creep at the max. and it isn't double I went and changed my post because it dawned on me that BP won't go onto the drakana but it is still more damage by alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Amaterasu- Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 This isn't even an augment it's just a melee mod that changes it to be exalted blade an augment requires that the power be used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acidulant Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 This isn't even an augment it's just a melee mod that changes it to be exalted blade an augment requires that the power be used Pretty sure it requires that the Exalted Blade ability to be used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Amaterasu- Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Pretty sure it requires that the Exalted Blade ability to be used Guess I misunderstood then sorry for that, seems weird when you say thing like "enables auto parry" ect. when exalted blade already has that if it is an augment why not just say what it changes, removes waves, Increased Melee Damage, changes blade visual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneu Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Augments should change how an ability works, or make it work in more interesting ways, not just straight up buff, soooo no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBorris Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) No Energy Waves What makes Exalted Blade so powerful is the waves, if the % is not too high I see no problem. Edited July 29, 2015 by DrBorris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatersail Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 So.... you simply add auto parry to your melee weapon and gain some base damage..... No amazing glowing energy blade? No Energy waves rolling down the map? um...Why not use Valkyr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wargasm_v2.X Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Exalted Blade is already over the top OP and has turned Excalibur to a 1 trick spam E to win pony. Most of the defenders cite that at least it doesn't blow up the whole map like some spammable ultimates do. So clearly the Augment should, "When an Exalted Blade wave hits an enemy...blow up the entire map." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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