(PSN)beastbread Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 When someone advertises on trade that they "WTB (item)" but then, when you pm them back saying "offer?" they just flat out don't pm you back. Words cannot describe how fricken rude this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiabolicalHamSandwich Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Some people don't like to do the whole offer thing, I myself included. How I see it is either say your price or don't be surprised when you don't get a response~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesiga Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Or when someone says WTB and they offer items. WTB = offering platWTT= offering itemspeople.pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)dursereg Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 How is that rude. They stated they wanted to buy and you refused to give a price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)beastbread Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 By saying "offer?" I imply that I want to see what they are willing to pay for said item. They might not know how much the item is they are buying and try to low ball me without realizing it. That way, I can rebuttal with what I want to sell it for RELATIVE to what they are willing to pay. NEVERTHELESS, Not answering back at all is worse than anything. if you don't want to offer first, at least say something like "IDK what would you sell it for" or something of that nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)garbohydr8 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I don't do that whole "Offer" bs. Gets on my nerves whenever I see it. I Also hate it when I say WTB and someone will PM me saying they will buy it. Same goes for WTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)thefndodge Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Think of it this way...most of the time when someone types WTB they get multiple pm's from sellers like you. Some sellers are smart enough to pm their price first. Remember you as a seller are competing with other sellers. Those that state an agreeable price up front will win the sale most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)beastbread Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 Some people don't like to do the whole offer thing, I myself included. How I see it is either say your price or don't be surprised when you don't get a response~ That's not how good business is conducted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)G R A V O C Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 When someone advertises on trade that they "WTB (item)" but then, when you pm them back saying "offer?" they just flat out don't pm you back. Words cannot describe how fricken rude this is. Reverse pet peeve. So when I AM on trade chat, I say something like "Buying Unranked Primed Continuity - PM me your price!" Then I have 8 people pm me with "offer". I always ignore these players, if they can't decipher a sentence correctly, how can I expect them to trade properly? Not saying that you are doing that, but sometimes players like me aren't looking to give an offer. We ask for your price because we don't know what price to offer. So it can be frustrating when looking for an item, and people only ever want you to cough up a price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)garbohydr8 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Reverse pet peeve. So when I AM on trade chat, I say something like "Buying Unranked Primed Continuity - PM me your price!" Then I have 8 people pm me with "offer". I always ignore these players, if they can't decipher a sentence correctly, how can I expect them to trade properly? Not saying that you are doing that, but sometimes players like me aren't looking to give an offer. We ask for your price because we don't know what price to offer. So it can be frustrating when looking for an item, and people only ever want you to cough up a price. This. So. Much. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ForEv3rYung Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Some people don't like to do the whole offer thing, I myself included. How I see it is either say your price or don't be surprised when you don't get a response~ If you are the buyer you can dictate that. You want something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiabolicalHamSandwich Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 That's not how good business is conducted Neither is blatantly going "offer" cause more often then not if it isn't something rare rare you will loose out on that trade~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Toycammander666 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Looks like to me they got a deal and you salty about it lol get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfhsanseiIII Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I often get flooded with responses and am unable to commit to writing a response to everyone. I don't think it's rude it's an unrealistic expectation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodKitten Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Or when someone says WTB and they offer items. WTB = offering plat WTT= offering items people. pls. they buying it with items, its a trade chat, not a marketplace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesiga Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) they buying it with items, its a trade chat, not a marketplace. It's better to be specific. Saves people who want only plat, and the buyers time with "oh.. okay" also; "buying with items" that's..trading.. item for item. buying is use of currency. Edited August 4, 2015 by Vesiga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiabolicalHamSandwich Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 they buying it with items, its a trade chat, not a marketplace. That's still technically trading. It's the reason why people actually do put WTB or WTT because there is a difference. Not sure where you were going with this~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acaelus Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) Personally I hate it when people ask for offers because 99% of the time in my experience at least, I'll offer average price and their first response will always be "No thanks."... To which I inwardly yell "THAT'S NOT A COUNTER-OFFER, THIS ISN'T HOW NEGOTIATIONS WORK!". Although realistically, the person making the sell/buy ad should have an initial price. It makes more sense to message someone, get their asking price, and negotiate from there, rather than message someone, have them say offer, and take a guess at how much they want. Because anyone that's trading to buy or sell something has a price in mind, nobody goes "Oh, this person offered less than how much I want for this item, but I'll take it anyway because no reason at all." Everyone has a price they want for something, and almost everyone will negotiate with it. Which is why it baffles me when you message someone and they want you to offer immediately with no baseline to start with, even auctions have a baseline price. It's literally just telling someone "Guess how much I want, and if you guess close enough I'll negotiate with you or if you don't assume you're a scammer/&#!-hat/idiot based on the price you give me." Edited August 4, 2015 by Acaelus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z3GR4M Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) Trade system is beyond broke at its current state... It is barely passable, people always and I mean ALWAYS try to screw you to get a better deal, this is why I can't wait for a auction house system and you have a median established on what something is worth... Guarantee you will never see selling this for 700p cuz it's soo rare. GTFO with that nonsense. Edited August 4, 2015 by Z3GR4M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoner Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 When i want to buy something, i just hate it when someone pm me "offer?". I dont know why exactly. If you're selling stuff you should know what's your price... Oh well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiabolicalHamSandwich Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Trade system is beyond broke at its current state... It is barely passable, people always and I mean ALWAYS try to screw you to get a better deal, this is why I can't wait for a auction house system and you have a median established on what something is worth... Guarantee you will never see selling this for 700p cuz it's soo rare. GTFO with that nonsense. I'm actually more bothered by the people wanting to low ball to hells lvl of low. I understand "buy cheap sell high" but I swear some peoples buying price are offensively bad. Even more so the fact that there will ALWAYS be that one desperate mofo that obliges those trades and starts that downward spiral~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 When i want to buy something, i just hate it when someone pm me "offer?". I dont know why exactly. If you're selling stuff you should know what's your price... Oh well.. This isn't Walmart. Prices are fluid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I'm actually more bothered by the people wanting to low ball to hells lvl of low. I understand "buy cheap sell high" but I swear some peoples buying price are offensively bad. Even more so the fact that there will ALWAYS be that one desperate mofo that obliges those trades and starts that downward spiral~ Learn to negotiate. Of course the initial price is going to be too high or too low. That's part of the market game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiabolicalHamSandwich Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 This isn't Walmart. Prices are fluid. This was a pointless response in all honesty. Does not change the fact people don't like the whole offer thing. Learn to negotiate. Of course the initial price is going to be too high or too low. That's part of the market game. As soon as you learn to read. This isn't about negotiations, this is about people dead set on low balling just to see how low they can go. Plus i'm sorry once again are we not playing the same game? There are plenty of people who don't want to negotiate. On top of this weren't you the one complaining in another post about the hassles of trade? Man your logic all over the place today isn't it~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 As soon as you learn to read. This isn't about negotiations, this is about people dead set on low balling just to see how low they can go. Plus i'm sorry once again are we not playing the same game? There are plenty of people who don't want to negotiate. On top of this weren't you the one complaining in another post about the hassles of trade? Man your logic all over the place today isn't it~ It's a buyer's job to low ball you. It's a seller's job to over-price things as much as they can. The point of the negotiation is to get the price to something you can both agree on, while still trying to get it to lean in your favor. If you don't want to negotiate then post how much you want to spend (e.g. WTB X for Y plat). My logic hasn't wavered at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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