-N7-Leonhart Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Firstly, I advise Boltor P fans to not read this topic, it is better that way. AkSomati always had great amounts of DPS, but now since it has 2 primed crits mods....let's just say things have taken quite the unexpected turn. Now, I know Boltor P is quite a crappy weapon nowadays and would not make even Top 20, but I thought this was too funny, as to what some people were referring to as "God Tier" weapon. AkSomati And now, Boltor P xD As you can see, over 2x lower DPS. No matter how you try to change the build in unrealistic ways, AkSomati will be better in all the cases, not to mention that travel time on Boltor..... I thought I should also throw a Soma P as well, for scale Should I make a Lex Prime vs any other sniper too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)OMGITSNUKERXD Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Should I make a Lex Prime vs any other sniper too? YES ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your_Very_Best_Friend Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Holy sh*t dude! I have to get me one of those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badheroguy Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Should I make a Lex Prime vs any other sniper too? Definitly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arKRazor Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Where is your primed ammo mutation?Punch through?That said, this mod is certainly welcome on crit secondaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djego27 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 And it only takes 14s of shooting to run out of ammo. \o/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)FriendSharkey Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Hey, leveling one of those. Maybe I'll have to keep it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)TheMadCash Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Actually there's a YouTube channel that just made a video about how strong the Aksomati is. (I forgot the channel name) its just a the ammo reserves that's a problem. Strongest handgun (except for explosive secondaries) is the Lex p. It destroys if you connect those headshots. If you make a thread about lex & snipers. I'll be interested in reading it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-N7-Leonhart Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) And it only takes 14s of shooting to run out of ammo. \o/ Haha, true, I always run AkSomati with Primed Ammo mutation, but one mod would not compensate for over 2x DPS difference. With Primed Ammo Mutation though, you can never run out of ammo, which Boltor may need eventually as well. Edited November 7, 2015 by -BM-StormVanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazoor Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 you'll have to max those 3 primed mods first ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-BM-Mitz Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 You go for corrosive and heat, I go for viral and Hollow Point xd All the crit damage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-N7-Leonhart Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 you'll have to max those 3 primed mods first ;) Yeah, that is no feat for new players or casuals, but if you don't care about the means.... :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxbomb Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Is this taking into account critical headshot multipliers, or is this purely bodyshot calculations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-N7-Leonhart Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 And those are not even the crit headshots calculated. Imagine AkSomati hitting headshots for 4x more damage, in 50% of the cases.....that is ~2x the shown DPS..... Is this taking into account critical headshot multipliers, or is this purely bodyshot calculations? Nope, just body shots xD. AkSomati would be way way too far on the scale then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePredicament Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I actually have that built but with a seeker instead of another element. It's alright, ammo pool is really low and DPS doesn't mean much when shooting at heads, still one of the coolest and most action ready guns in the game. Also, Soma P does more damage because of how easy headshots are to pull off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--F--NerevarCM Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 AkBronco w/o Magnum Force/ 99% Status Build http://goo.gl/nh3tfl AkBronco w/ Magnum Force/ 95% Status Build http://goo.gl/fVpOSL Secondary Weapons and this ridiculous damage and multishot mods destroys many Primary Weapons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Twin Grakatas are ridiculous as well, save for how bugged Warframe-Builder is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBeeBrain Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 This is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-N7-Leonhart Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) Twin Grakatas are ridiculous as well, save for how bugged Warframe-Builder is now. The description for the Twin Grakatas is bugged in-game as well. They have half the shown damage per hit, but double the fire rate instead, so 40 bps fire rate, at base value. Quite the annoying number of mosquitoes.... This is amazing. Thank you, part II is out ;) Edited November 7, 2015 by -BM-StormVanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 The description for the Twin Grakatas is bugged in-game as well. They have half the shown damage per hit, but double the fire rate instead, so 40 bps fire rate, at base value. Quite the annoying number of mosquitoes... ...Grakatas fire two pellets at once, each dealing 10DMG at the rate of 20RPS while using 2 units of ammo per shot. Listed stats are completely valid and are an equivalent of 10DMG@40RPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-N7-Leonhart Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) ...Grakatas fire two pellets at once, each dealing 10DMG at the rate of 20RPS while using 2 units of ammo per shot. Listed stats are completely valid and are an equivalent of 10DMG@40RPS. Yeah, but the mag ends in 3 seconds of fire like that and takes another 3 to reload. Not my cup of tea, considering that AkSomati have half of that reload time, so a lot more sustained DPS. I even hesitate to put Lethal Torrent on Twin Grakatas, in order to not finish that huge mag in 2 seconds....not even Primed Ammo Mutation can hold then. Edited November 7, 2015 by -BM-StormVanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Yeah, but the mag ends in 3 seconds of fire like that and takes another 3 to reload. Not my cup of tea, considering that AkSomati have half of that reload time, so a lot more sustained DPS. I even hesitate to put Lethal Torrent on Twin Grakatas, in order to not finish that huge mag in 2 seconds....not even Primed Ammo Mutation can hold then. Well, not really. Using simplified version of Grakata, as 10DMG@40RPS, base stats result in: 12.5DMG per shot. 500DPS Burst 333.3DPS sustained While AkSomati, on the other hand: 25.2DMG per shot 315DMG burst 252DMG sustained Both weapons scale pretty much the same way, as they both benefit from crit-centric build. Twin Grakatas are pretty much superior to every other weapon in the game, talk about powercreep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePredicament Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Not sure how Supra long reload speed makes Twin Graks superior to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kthal Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 That's good and all but good luck aquiring and maxing 3 primed mods if you're a new player. Primed Pistol Gambit Primed Target Cracker Primed Heated Charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Not sure how Supra long reload speed makes Twin Graks superior to anything. It's more about uptime:downtime ratio and how much damage can you spew out during the uptime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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