EmptyDevil Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 OP sounds like one of those people that think the Dragon Nikana has to be the strongest because it has dragon in it's name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble_One Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 eh, you could already one shot everything with your dragon nikana anyway. Not sure why this is such a big deal. one is given for free the other you have to build and put work into it to be on par with the other. though i think this is DEs second, i wanna say second or could be more, the gave a weapon that is best in that class (the first being the brakk i think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Blaze- Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 By the way, if i am not mistaken the Nikana is a Japanese styled Katana. A Katana is inferior in every respect to European Swords. Worse steel, only one cutting edge, inferior design, breaks often when hitting other swords... (Google it if you don't believe) and the Broken War is akin more to a European style with better steel, two cutting edges, armguard, more possible moves like hitting enemys with cross guard or grip... So in other words it is 'historical' correct' xD hahaha /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Don't you dare to touch my broken-war! If you want call a buff for nikana, but leave alone my sword ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble_One Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) By the way, if i am not mistaken the Nikana is a Japanese styled Katana. A Katana is inferior in every respect to European Swords. Worse steel, only one cutting edge, inferior design, breaks often when hitting other swords... (Google it if you don't believe) and the Broken War is akin more to a European style with better steel, two cutting edges, armguard, more possible moves like hitting enemys with cross guard or grip... So in other words it is 'historical' correct' xD hahaha /s you need to look at the broken war again very closely and the thing on katanas is still very debatable considering it depends on how the sword it built. Edited December 10, 2015 by Noble_One Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swailwort Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 And yet I don't see you crying for the EMBOLIST, a MR 8 weapon which is worse than most MR 0 Weapons. Sure buddy. Dragon Nikana was already overpowered by the Míos, the Scindo Prime, and even the Karyst deals more damage with Covert Lethality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)FunyFlyBoy Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Lol how about no? Take the free weapon and stop whining. D nikana is craftable, broken war is RNG LOCKED! R N G Locked! Not everyone has completed a certain quest called natah, because not everyone has the RNG luck to meet oculysts. Did DE change their appearance chance recently? Last I played actively (only a month ago, waiting on U18 to drop so on other games) Tyl Regor assassination had nearly 100% chance for an Oculyst to appear. I know when I was farming for Equinox I could count the number of times I didn't see one on my hands after five hours of farming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Blaze- Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 you need to look at the broken war again very closely and the thing on katanas is still very debatable considering it depends on how the sword it built. Minute 5:30 you see the cut a sword test: The dude that swings the swords is a smith for high quality Katanas (using imported original japanes steel) and he would only rely on an european sword in a matter of live or death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyDevil Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 By the way, if i am not mistaken the Nikana is a Japanese styled Katana. A Katana is inferior in every respect to European Swords. Worse steel, only one cutting edge, inferior design, breaks often when hitting other swords... (Google it if you don't believe) and the Broken War is akin more to a European style with better steel, two cutting edges, armguard, more possible moves like hitting enemys with cross guard or grip... So in other words it is 'historical' correct' xD hahaha /s Not sure about the steel but one edge isn't exactly a bad thing. Your comparison is very biased. They were made to perform calculated and decisive cuts. You should never bang any sword together either(only idiots do this), it will damage the cutting edge on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeiss17 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Don't you dare to touch my broken-war! If you want call a buff for nikana, but leave alone my sword ! This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyDevil Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Minute 5:30 you see the cut a sword test: The dude that swings the swords is a smith for high quality Katanas (using imported original japanes steel) and he would only rely on an european sword in a matter of live or death. Watched the video and you are NEVER suppose to use a sword to bash against another one. One sword is made to quickly cut/kill your opponent. One is made with the expectations of clashing or bashing against another sword when trying to kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulzscha Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Please be advised, we have specific subforums for feedback threads: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/318374-please-read-before-posting-threads-what-is-and-isnt-general-discussion/ Moved to the proper section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidaru. Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Buff other stances or nerf Crimson Dervish. Thats all there is to it. The weapons themselves are fine. Or you can just use what you want and stop complaining about other weapons. Like most people will do anyway. You like D. Nikana, use D. Nikana. No one is forcing you to use Broken-War. So they released a weapon thats stronger and can be gotten from a quest. Welcome to the world of online gaming. It happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gullim92 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 "They made something better/equal to my weapon and it requires less effort therefore I'm mad" I love this meme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnccs215 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) -ignore this. Repeated myself. Phone is stupid sometimes- Edited December 10, 2015 by tnccs215 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadyRoad Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Not sure about the steel but one edge isn't exactly a bad thing. Your comparison is very biased. They were made to perform calculated and decisive cuts. You should never bang any sword together either(only idiots do this), it will damage the cutting edge on them. pretty much this. katana's are made for cutting though flesh and cheap iron swords during an age when steel with a razer sharp edge was supreme, not to mention most "samurai" litrally were just high paid guard for the emporers and generals, meaning they barely if ever saw any real combat which would have demanded a sword of higher practicallity. Their decrative. if u want traditional "swordfighting" a european sword would be better suited for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnccs215 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 If you people get DE to nerf broken war, Ill be extremely pissed. Not because it is OP. But because melee, by itself, is lackluster compared to guns. Broken war is OP compared to other melee's, but balanced compared to other weapons. That is, its not broken war that needs to be nerfed. But every other melee weapon that needs a buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeiss17 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 If you people get DE to nerf broken war, Ill be extremely pissed. Not because it is OP. But because melee, by itself, is lackluster compared to guns. Broken war is OP compared to other melee's, but balanced compared to other weapons. That is, its not broken war that needs to be nerfed. But every other melee weapon that needs a buff. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epsik-kun Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Broken War is literally broken. Nevertheless, I still use Orthos Prime, because it's simply better than every other alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latiac Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Broken-War + Crimson Dervish and a Berserker Build makes it a fun weapon that i'll use as a main longsword, along with the Dakra Prime for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cidolfus Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'm going to be the one to point out that Broken War and Dragon Nikana are both slash based swords. So they do take basically the same set of mods. You're not getting what I'm saying. A newer player probably WON'T have that "set of mods". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashrah Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 dragon nikana is very bad if u dont have maxed primed reach considering blind justice is best stance for it who lack on range a lot with great speed....i think all wepons should be mastery rank locked... in 4th grade... grade one master rank 1-4 grade 2 mastery 4-7 grade 3 mastery rank 7-10 elite grade mastery rank 10+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epsik-kun Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 >reverse-gripping katanas smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmas71 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 The dragon nikana does need a buff in crit chance and status chance. Maybe even crit damage. That would give it a niche among the top-tier melees, all of which have higher ips damage (as it should be). As much as i love that sword, it has no business in a "swordfight" with something like WAR, broken or not. The game should highlight its value as a one-hit and finisher melee. Not for hack n slash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnccs215 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 The dragon nikana does need a buff in crit chance and status chance. Maybe even crit damage. That would give it a niche among the top-tier melees, all of which have higher ips damage (as it should be). As much as i love that sword, it has no business in a "swordfight" with something like WAR, broken or not. The game should highlight its value as a one-hit and finisher melee. Not for hack n slash. Leave the first thing for the nikana prime.The second: That would be interesting.though I would expect that from a dagger version if the nikana. Dont remember its name, but there are real life, smaller versions of katanas. Surely someone will mention its name. Everyone appears to have a phD on swordfighting around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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