Yual Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) seriously why? already, how is it possible that there are cat fight? Edited March 15, 2016 by yual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 CrazyCatLad Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 46 minutes ago, direcyphre said: Because cats; everybody hates em, ya know what I mean? I'm offended by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (PSN)Lord_Gremlin Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, Mastikator2 said: Cats and tigers are felines. Wolves and dogs are canines. None of this is relevant, really because kubrows and kavats are fictional sci-fi monsters, former some kind of mutant platypus going by eggs and "nose", latter some kind of reptile? Some alien creature. On topic because developer failed at balancing enemy scaling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Silvus-Sol Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Littlerift said: I'm afraid this isn't actually remotely true. The African Wild Dog is widely considered to be the most efficient vertebrate predator in the world, with around 80% of their hunts resulting in a kill. Sure, one on one they aren't a match for a Lion, but they don't need to be because they're vastly more intelligent than Lions and are much more social and so will quite happily use the size of their packs to drive lion prides off of kills. Not that any of this need be relevant to Warframe, although Kavats really don't have the build of a Lion or Tiger, they look more like Lynxes. Compared to Kubrow I would expect them to be more damaging but more fragile, and less focussed on utility. True enough, but I left pack stuff out of this as that isn't how they work in Warframe. So I was doing a 1 to 1 comparison. Plus, those African Wild Dogs (despite being dogs) probably work together much better than Warframe's enemy AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Sangoma Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Littlerift said: Not that any of this need be relevant to Warframe, although Kavats really don't have the build of a Lion or Tiger, they look more like Lynxes. Compared to Kubrow I would expect them to be more damaging but more fragile, and less focussed on utility. I do agree here, as I already as mentioned earlier, so far they are not even the size of a tiger, more like cheetah or so, and also not as masculine. Fast and deadly, yes, but not as tanky as they are now, that is quite ridiculous, even simply looking at the models themselves. Fat ugly, but muscular Drahk and skinny, yet also ugly Hyekkas. And please, people, do not turn this thread into "Dogs>Cats" or "Cats>Dogs". That it not the point of this thread. Edited March 15, 2016 by Sangoma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Demonfr34k Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I dont get it, DE said kavats were going to be less damage focuses and more utility then kubrows yet they have already failed to deliver this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 EmptyDevil Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, Littlerift said: I'm afraid this isn't actually remotely true. The African Wild Dog is widely considered to be the most efficient vertebrate predator in the world, with around 80% of their hunts resulting in a kill. Sure, one on one they aren't a match for a Lion, but they don't need to be because they're vastly more intelligent than Lions and are much more social and so will quite happily use the size of their packs to drive lion prides off of kills. Not that any of this need be relevant to Warframe, although Kavats really don't have the build of a Lion or Tiger, they look more like Lynxes. Compared to Kubrow I would expect them to be more damaging but more fragile, and less focussed on utility. Err, what they said is still true. A big cat is a more lethal killer than a dog. He was talking about individually, not packs. A pack/group of animals, especially with coordination, is obviously going to be more effective than an individual or an uncoordinated pack/group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 EmptyDevil Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, Demonfr34k said: I dont get it, DE said kavats were going to be less damage focuses and more utility then kubrows yet they have already failed to deliver this. Player Kavats will be more utility, they didn't say anything specific about the enemy version IIRC. Edited March 15, 2016 by EmptyDevil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Yual Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 1 minute ago, Demonfr34k said: I dont get it, DE said kavats were going to be less damage focuses and more utility then kubrows yet they have already failed to deliver this. yep... sad . DE is a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 p3z1 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Reason 1 - Broken scaling. They didn't fix the scaling of hyekkas, leading to better stats overall. Reason 2 - Drahk can do KDs, hyekkas can't IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 motorfirebox Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Because cats > dogs. I thought everyone mew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Yual Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 1 minute ago, motorfirebox said: Because cats > dogs. I thought everyone mew that. ok. now you can *clem*yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mastikator2 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 48 minutes ago, (PS4)Lord_Gremlin said: None of this is relevant, really because kubrows and kavats are fictional sci-fi monsters, former some kind of mutant platypus going by eggs and "nose", latter some kind of reptile? Some alien creature. On topic because developer failed at balancing enemy scaling. In game terms kavats are newer and therefore subject to power creep. If you don't like that newer enemies are stronger than older then you're gonna have to tell DE to nerf some of the more powerful weapons and warframe abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Firetempest Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Cats, glass cannons on meth. Dogs, Tanky. The simplest generalization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Shreiko Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 DE isnt good at balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kaotyke Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) Have you ever been scratched by a cat? The dog's claws are foward, large, wide and a bit blunted the danger is their bite. Cat claws are in a hook shape, are thin and that makes them sharp as f*ck! I have a few scars on my arms to prove it! Edited March 16, 2016 by Kao-Snake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 YasaiTsume Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Maybe Kavats are designed to be more vicious and offense oriented than Kubrows. Out of all the Kubrow breeds, only 1 is very violence oriented (The Sunika) while the others aid in Shielding, Guarding, Cloaking, Retrieving, Disarming. I speculate that when Kavats appear, they might aid in more offensive support like Jamming, Tracking or even Ambushing. I also speculate that Kavats will be Puncture based damage, seeing how these Molerat Kavats seem to do so much damage to us, it is possible their charging dive attack are actually Puncture based that deals bonus damage to Armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mak_Gohae Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Because they didnt want to hear rebecca continue to complain about some cat stuff at the office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Yual Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 On 3/16/2016 at 10:36 PM, Mak_Gohae said: Because they didnt want to hear rebecca continue to complain about some cat stuff at the office. so true. this is also why they didnt nerf valkyrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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seriously why?
already, how is it possible that there are cat fight?
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