(PSN)EVILFLUFFMONSTER Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Honestly, I still think she is good. I havent a problem actually aiming her ult. Her main problem for me is her squishiness once shattersheild wears off. You can get one-shotted far too easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i.chit.you.not Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Mesa's new passive: if you leave her alone sitting in the ship long enough, she'll start making you coffee and automatically redecorate the ship interior every time you log-on. /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetos Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, vazerd68 said: everyone = vast majority remember when there were tons of EB excals the first weeks following the rework Everyone != majority. If a single person doesn't like it, not everyone likes it. And of course everyone was trying it out when it first came out. I did too. It was interesting and undoubtedly more powerful than super jump but after not much time with it it was obviously too easy to use and painful on the ears. It's boring and abrasive. I don't use Excal, I don't like being in the same mission with most excals. Which is sad because I feel like I should like a sword and Arthurian themed frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miszt Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 12 minutes ago, vazerd68 said: remember when there were tons of EB excals the first weeks following the rework apparently they all have been replaced by Mirages with Simulor D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetos Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 1 minute ago, g4yb4ll said: Mesa's new passive: if you leave her alone sitting in the ship long enough, she'll start making you coffee and automatically redecorate the ship interior every time you log-on. /s She already has passives, probably no new ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Grihaly Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Mesa is already a good frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pengu_Imperialus Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, (XB1)A Frikn Grizzly said: Mesa is already a good frame. I think a lot of people don't realize she works better using her 4 in bursts in stead of trying to post up somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Featherstone Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Mesa already is amazing, and you don't even need to use four to actually make her great :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)AllOrNothinDays Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) I hope they fix it. I adore the frame's look personally and after the change I didn't feel like the other abilities made up for it/weren't interesting and haven't touched it since. Edited May 25, 2016 by (PS4)AllOrNothinDays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God_is_a_Cat_Girl Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I never really used peacemaker that much (along with her 1, the added damage is rather limited and only truly useful in a very specific level range, any levels below or over that range make the ability useless or nearly useless), and I find her a good frame. Just mod scaling won't really make her that better, it just means she will one shot things at higher levels, damage isn't really much of a problem until later one, when it becomes a problem for just about anything, usually in missions where we are supposed to leave or die anyway. I have no issues with how it works now, compared with before, I do have issues with how moth worked, this is, aimbot and being static. I liked the "have to aim" change, until I noticed she was still static and had that silly aimbot which can't perform functions that even the Lato can. I still don't find it that terrible, it just doesn't entirely play for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B0N3M4N Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Well, not that many people will use her, maybe a bit more compared to now. This mainly because she doesn't fit the "Meta" of Warframe, because there are now way faster and easier/overall better ways to deal with enemies. For example, on a mission where Mesa is advantaged, a Defense, who did you think will do the most "work"? A Mesa protected on a pod or a Mirage/Excalibur/Valkyr with their Simulor/Tonkor/EB/Hysteria(which is basically god mode)? You also have to take in consideration that Mesa drains A LOT more energy while using Peacemaker compared to these ones, and she can't move, plus her reticule will get smaller, so you'll have to interact more and you'll have to stop in order to take Globes/Pads. These frames can just go in, randomly spam their attack button, kill everyone and get what they need WHEN they need it. Mesa will be better at scaling, yes, but she's too "hard" compared to the meta right now, so she won't get the place she deserves, especially after a week or so, like many other good frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B0N3M4N Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) <removed> Edited May 25, 2016 by Redskull94 Lag made the double post, removing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobermann92 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 No, not in any way. I didn't liked her even before the "nerf". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobermann92 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) No, not in any way. I didn't liked her even before the "nerf". Edited May 25, 2016 by Dobermann92 Double post because of lag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobermann92 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) Lag, please delete. Edited May 25, 2016 by Dobermann92 Or triple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misgenesis Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Ah yes, shes totally trash as it is. She doesnt have damage buffing, reliable CC and 95% damage ignore from projectiles. All she has is a trash 4th ability. Why am i still surprised by these kinds of threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandin3 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 ha. mesa is op frame har 2 and 3 abilty are sick,, and with good guns u have it., i dont use har 4skill any way.. dosnt add up.. but with a good buff it can make har even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misgenesis Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) forums pls Edited May 25, 2016 by Misgenesis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandin3 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 ha. mesa is op frame har 2 and 3 abilty are sick,, and with good guns u have it., i dont use har 4skill any way.. dosnt add up.. but with a good buff it can make har even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morty2989 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) (Forum hitch, double post?) Edited May 25, 2016 by Morty2989 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morty2989 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 To answer the topic title, no. Not if this keeps happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DxAdder Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Mesa was good for clearing the Star Chart but beyond that really wasn't useful. (Pre/Post nerf). Meas just isn't part of the Meta for end game missions/sorties. It would take a lot more than damage scaling to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DxAdder Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) Lag.. D. Post Edited May 25, 2016 by DxAdder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DxAdder Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) Triple Post! Edited May 25, 2016 by DxAdder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syln Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Any frame with a decent weapon is a better "peacemaker" mesa :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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