arch111 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Noticed how Excalibur Umbra, Shadow Excalibur,(Umbra?), and Chroma without his pelt on, have very similar torsos? I did some comparing with shadow and Excalibur Umbra and they absolutely have the same design. I was never sure/cared untill now. Allso Teshin said: "Lotus led the Tenno astray, complacent like oxen." The Accolytes said: "You are still their servants. You have lost your way, I will help you find it." Coincidense or planned? That sound way to similar to be random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_R_A_B_U_S-v12 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 7 hours ago, Demoonic said: Don't ruin the surprise for everyone else guys. If you don't care about spoilers then more power to ya, just don't spill the beans for the people who wanna have a "Second Dream Moment" Reveal hidden contents I've already seen it, I still retain my hype cause I'm that kinda person lol. Also sorry if mentioning it like that is against the rules I don't wanna have people spoiled is all Totally agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_of_Psi Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 3 hours ago, B_R_A_B_U_S-v12 said: Totally agree with you I have to agree as well, I just saw it myself and I kinder regret it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_R_A_B_U_S-v12 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 1 hour ago, LegionCynex said: I have to agree as well, I just saw it myself and I kinder regret it now What did you see ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_of_Psi Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 1 hour ago, B_R_A_B_U_S-v12 said: What did you see ? Uh, well we can't discuss that here, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_R_A_B_U_S-v12 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, LegionCynex said: Uh, well we can't discuss that here, sadly. okay ^-^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I do have one wish regarding Umbra. If it really is a new add-on that give us more choices and more Lore, then I want: Aproximate release date. It's probably not a U19 thing. So if it is a U20 thing, they are better off just saying so. Spoilers I don't want for this. Second Dream was allready guessed at by many of us. Umbras are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 5 hours ago, arch111 said: Noticed how Excalibur Umbra, Shadow Excalibur,(Umbra?), and Chroma without his pelt on, have very similar torsos? I did some comparing with shadow and Excalibur Umbra and they absolutely have the same design. I was never sure/cared untill now. Allso Teshin said: "Lotus led the Tenno astray, complacent like oxen." The Accolytes said: "You are still their servants. You have lost your way, I will help you find it." Coincidense or planned? That sound way to similar to be random. not sure, we never really brought in teshin into any discussion that i can recall 12 hours ago, (PS4)Deviant1994 said: Why was my post taken down? And cool I didn't know Warframe had a reddit. Because ...? Spoiler A reminder to all that Datamining is not allowed on the forums, please refer to the forum code of conduct: "2a) LEAKED/DATA-MINED CONTENT- Please do not promote or share leaks or data-mined information in the forums. If you are concerned about leaks please PM the DE staff. Continued posting of leaks/rumors will result in a warning point if the action continues after initial contact. We want to assure all Tenno are able to share in the excitement of new content when it is released to public. Addressing speculation and rumors takes attention away from the crucial content, changes, and fixes that are prioritized to further improve the game."~NovusNova 1 hour ago, LegionCynex said: I have to agree as well, I just saw it myself and I kinder regret it now there are at quite a few "variations" of this leaked "info" out there, some are clear fabrications created from posted topics here. so id take it with a grain of salt .. but in all honesty what is or isnt true will be verified when excal umbra is revealed as steve said little surprises are a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)EnormeMostro Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 1 hour ago, LegionCynex said: ...... I really like the super sayan idea. I will happy to bring Atlas and BooM!!! Atlas Umbra. Sorry about the quote, I use phone and don't know how to delete it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Oh Teshin is something I have allways felt like connecting him with Stalker since this. Stalker said he was awake while we slept. "Others like me have wandered these desolate worlds while you slept." Teshin said he wandered looking for redemption, and found the Conclave. Two were there for the Fall. Both have returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, arch111 said: Oh Teshin is something I have allways felt like connecting him with Stalker since this. Stalker said he was awake while we slept. "Others like me have wandered these desolate worlds while you slept." Teshin said he wandered looking for redemption, and found the Conclave. Two were there for the Fall. Both have returned. well thats a good and teshin did get a new "look" but when reviewing it its not very similiar to umbras scarf. so we dismissed that. but i forget that teshin is one thats been around just as long (if not longer) then lotus 7 minutes ago, (PS4)EnormeMostro said: I really like the super sayan idea. I will happy to bring Atlas and BooM!!! Atlas Umbra. Sorry about the quote, I use phone and don't know how to delete it. np, and ya the super saiyian concept is a fun idea ..but reminds me of mega pokemon for some reason ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ToothlessApollo Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I hope we don't have to wait til after stupid tennocon to get another update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoonic Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 49 minutes ago, (XB1)ToothlessApollo said: I hope we don't have to wait til after stupid tennocon to get another update. Well specters is supposed to come out before it from what I can see, and they said War Within was coming after that so....yeah we kinda have to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Let's say Shadow is a Umbra, a tennoless warframe. When he froze up in the Liset, wondering who he really was; what if the Umbra need to be bonded to our tenno? What if that is what makes them different from the Primes used in the First Dream. So a new type of Operator needs to be born, the same way the Orokin once paired zariman child and warframe. Just trying to think of what will make them different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 12 minutes ago, arch111 said: Let's say Shadow is a Umbra, a tennoless warframe. When he froze up in the Liset, wondering who he really was; what if the Umbra need to be bonded to our tenno? What if that is what makes them different from the Primes used in the First Dream. So a new type of Operator needs to be born, the same way the Orokin once paired zariman child and warframe. Just trying to think of what will make them different. its a interesting idea, but then are the operators for the primes different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyrakav Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 31 minutes ago, arch111 said: Let's say Shadow is a Umbra, a tennoless warframe. When he froze up in the Liset, wondering who he really was; what if the Umbra need to be bonded to our tenno? What if that is what makes them different from the Primes used in the First Dream. So a new type of Operator needs to be born, the same way the Orokin once paired zariman child and warframe. Just trying to think of what will make them different. Perhaps they'll be controlled by some kind of direct influence, or maybe we some how force our frames into sentience making them Umbra, taking orders from our Operators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Deviant1994 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Since it seems stalker has no operator, I like the idea that we may be able to actually get into Umbra frames after we get them and control them directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Nyrakav said: Perhaps they'll be controlled by some kind of direct influence, or maybe we some how force our frames into sentience making them Umbra, taking orders from our Operators. 1 hour ago, (XB1)EternalDrk Mako said: its a interesting idea, but then are the operators for the primes different? This depends on whether or not you take Stalker at his word; that he was a Guardian and that that either meant that all Guardians were what we call Umbra, or that he and others became Umbra after the fall. If he went to that "dark place" and became Shadow, he is still not a tenno. But clearly he still uses a warframe - so the same rule must apply somewhere; a warframe is commanded. And if only a tenno:zariman-returnee, can use a Prime, hmm maby the tenno need to allso go to that place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 34 minutes ago, arch111 said: This depends on whether or not you take Stalker at his word; that he was a Guardian and that that either meant that all Guardians were what we call Umbra, or that he and others became Umbra after the fall. If he went to that "dark place" and became Shadow, he is still not a tenno. But clearly he still uses a warframe - so the same rule must apply somewhere; a warframe is commanded. And if only a tenno:zariman-returnee, can use a Prime, hmm maby the tenno need to allso go to that place? makes sense o. o we know that frames were made to reflect individual tenno originally so maybe those of the zariman incident were born of two different forces light void and dark void energies... or perhaps its not that simple.... if we take into account energy.. is both positive and negative maybe the children of the zariman are a neutral power conduit. when focused and tempered/trained they gain the powers of the light and can wield the primes better through focus. then by DE umbras are a twisted variation of primes. so maybe they are corrupted or altered to tap into the negative form of this power ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 18 minutes ago, (XB1)EternalDrk Mako said: makes sense o. o we know that frames were made to reflect individual tenno originally so maybe those of the zariman incident were born of two different forces light void and dark void energies... or perhaps its not that simple.... if we take into account energy.. is both positive and negative maybe the children of the zariman are a neutral power conduit. when focused and tempered/trained they gain the powers of the light and can wield the primes better through focus. then by DE umbras are a twisted variation of primes. so maybe they are corrupted or altered to tap into the negative form of this power ? Makes me think of Lovecraftian places where darkness comes from. Where the Infestation came from? Too out there :)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teshin_Dax Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 31 minutes ago, (XB1)EternalDrk Mako said: makes sense o. o we know that frames were made to reflect individual tenno originally so maybe those of the zariman incident were born of two different forces light void and dark void energies... or perhaps its not that simple.... if we take into account energy.. is both positive and negative maybe the children of the zariman are a neutral power conduit. when focused and tempered/trained they gain the powers of the light and can wield the primes better through focus. then by DE umbras are a twisted variation of primes. so maybe they are corrupted or altered to tap into the negative form of this power ? Umbra could be a reflection of the history of the "old Stalker" .. But there is one thing that i really want to see in this game .. more than Umbra ... The Stalker Helmet --- soooo badly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornWithTeeth Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Just now, WaRsHooTer666 said: Umbra could be a reflection of the history of the "old Stalker" .. But there is one thing that i really want to see in this game .. more than Umbra ... The Stalker Helmet --- soooo badly Why though? It's kind of an ugly helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teshin_Dax Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 1 minute ago, arch111 said: Makes me think of Lovecraftian places where darkness comes from. Where the Infestation came from? Too out there :)? Infested door in our ship -- that could be the dark place for us for control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teshin_Dax Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BornWithTeeth said: Why though? It's kind of an ugly helmet. Many warframe Player just love frightening presences ^^ And that smoke effect tho ... Edited June 30, 2016 by WaRsHooTer666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 i just want that negation ability..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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