If Oberon was Good....

[paragasu]

3rd ability animation need to be faster(without quick thinking) and his 2nd should be easy to detect(as of now during a huge fight, I can't really tell where my brother spam his carpet =_=)...that will make oberon good

[(PSN)bddacres]

Just now, paragasu said:

3rd ability animation need to be faster(without quick thinking) and his 2nd should be easy to detect(as of now during a huge fight, I can't really tell where my brother spam his carpet =_=)...that will make oberon good

I would prefer his two be a circle or, a aura...

[Urlan]

18 minutes ago, (PS4)bddacres said:

I would prefer his two be a circle or, a aura...

I too could go for that for Hallowed Ground, a toggle on ability that increases friendly armor, removes status, and burns enemies with radiation damage would be a fine ability. It might be considered to step on Ice Chroma's toes but would make sense to me; benefiting Oberon's in the thick of it type playstyle.

[cookieknife]

Saying Oberon has a unique play style is just foolish though. You can damage cc and heal, but definitely not good enough. 

He needs quality of life tweaks like his base armor being higher, his hallowed ground needs to have better buffs to players 20% armor doesn't make a difference. Status immunity is nice but it is small and staying inside of it with no protection makes you a sitting duck. Also it needs to have synergy with his 1st and 4th, his fourth needs to do more than what it does, the only effect to an enemy it has after the slam is a tad proc, it's an ult and it seems lackluster because you have to spam it to get use out of it if they aren't dead in one slam. His third is okay but it needs to revert to it's original form and revive fallen players. Soul survivor exists, original renewal can too DE , except it needs to be a normal channel ability. 

[cookieknife]

4 hours ago, hooborg said:

What is the essential and valid purpose of Zephyr and Atlas? ...people just so obsessed to hate Oberon, but he is a FUN frame... like Zephyr and Atlas and thats all ...a generalist as you said and thats fine... dont make him "specialist" we have plenty of frames that do 1 thing... Ash for killin Hydroid Vauban and Nyx for crowd controll Trinity for heals... i think we dont need one more dps or one more CC ...one more healer will be great but somhow there Equinox and "Inaros" if you mind (sry for my bad english not my native language)

Atlas is a defensive warframe.... Seriously his 2nd 3rd and 4th are defensive what do you mean by that??

[Eminem2420]

Oberon isn't a "bad" frame. There is no such thing as a "bad" frame when put into the right hands. Is there even a point to this thread? All i see is this thread encouraging players to mock and belittle Oberon players because they don't like him. 

[(PSN)Oreic-Reynier]

Who is Oberon,  I only use Obi-Ron Tennobi. 

[SilvaDreams]

Click bait title is click bait.

Because Oberon isn't bad, he just suffers a bit from old age like all older frames.

[TheGodofWiFi]

38 minutes ago, Eminem2420 said:

Oberon isn't a "bad" frame. There is no such thing as a "bad" frame when put into the right hands. Is there even a point to this thread? All i see is this thread encouraging players to mock and belittle Oberon players because they don't like him. 

Even if Hydroid was in experienced hands, he wouldn't last very long without Shadow Step. There are some frames in this game that are worse than others. That's fact. Just like the Lato is worse than Lex Prime.

 

2 minutes ago, SilvaDreams said:

Click bait title is click bait.

Because Oberon isn't bad, he just suffers a bit from old age like all older frames.

Make him focus more on being unique from others, not trying to be others.

[Eminem2420]

20 minutes ago, LorianTheElderPrince said:

Even if Hydroid was in experienced hands, he wouldn't last very long without Shadow Step. There are some frames in this game that are worse than others. That's fact. Just like the Lato is worse than Lex Prime.

 

Make him focus more on being unique from others, not trying to be others.

Obviously you don't know how to play Hydroid. Not everyone needs Shadow Step as a crutch.

[Compassion]

Let's say this, he wasn't bad for his time, but he's bad now!

[TheGodofWiFi]

9 minutes ago, Eminem2420 said:

Obviously you don't know how to play Hydroid. Not everyone needs Shadow Step as a crutch.

I have played him thank you very much. He's awful. His panic abilities are a puddle and a water version of slash dash. The tentacle swarm is outclassed by every other CC ability in the game.

Edited August 14, 2016 by LorianTheElderPrince

[Eminem2420]

Just now, LorianTheElderPrince said:

I have played him thank you very much. He's awful. His panic abilities are a puddle and a water version of slash dash.

I didn't imply that you didn't play him at all. I am just saying that he is obviously not a frame for you. He is great in the right hands.

[TheGodofWiFi]

3 minutes ago, Eminem2420 said:

I didn't imply that you didn't play him at all. I am just saying that he is obviously not a frame for you. He is great in the right hands.

How so? As Tactical Potato once said, all he can do is 'slightly annoy' high level enemies. I've only seen one Hydroid in my entire time here and even then it was at Draco and all he did was sit there passively leeching points.

Edited August 14, 2016 by LorianTheElderPrince

[armedpoop]

11 hours ago, ChronoEclipse said:

Nezha and Amesha can as well. Just throwing that out there.

I dont consider archwing a frame, and thats true. Nehza's 1 does it right? 

[Eminem2420]

4 hours ago, LorianTheElderPrince said:

How so? As Tactical Potato once said, all he can do is 'slightly annoy' high level enemies. I've only seen one Hydroid in my entire time here and even then it was at Draco and all he did was sit there passively leeching points.

I don't care what a youtuber says. And just because you haven't seen people play Hydroid doesn't mean there are not good players. I have seen people able to do very well with him.

[ArcaneSnowdrop]

I would prefer that his augments were more useful, and more importantly, that his 1 was retouched a bit. It doesn't really fit, and while it can be helpful, it's not exactly great for more than getting everyone else to start attacking one target at higher levels.

However, built right, Oberon can survive great at higher levels. I need to get him a maxed Vitality to make him really great. And maybe a Steel Fiber.

[(PSN)robotwars7]

Oberon just needs minor tweaks, his main problem is that he doesn't fit anywhere. he's not a Damage dealer, he's not a Tank, he's not a CC Frame, he's not a defender, he's not a support Frame and he's not a caster. he tries to be all of these things, but ends up being Jack of all trades, master of none.

he needs specialization into a particular category. I say the community should hold a vote as to what direction Oberon should be reworked in, and choose from several concepts, and whichever gets the most votes should be submitted to DE.

[(XBOX)GeckoGenesis]

17 hours ago, (PS4)bddacres said:

What is oberon was actually a good frame.... what would come to mind when you think of him... a bamf paladin or the calm druid... post pics and vids of comparisons

I love Oberon.  He's my second favorite frame.  I do like the idea of him being a calm druid, especially because of his passive ability and the fact that his design is based off of a deer... although deer aren't really calm animals. 

[NativeKiller]

Oberon IS good.

 

You see, his parts drop so very frequently to give me 3500 credits per part.

 

Also he gave me 6000 MR points and didn't bother taking up an inventory slot after that.

 

10/10, would Oberon again!

 

P.S// ...Seriously, he needs a rework.

Edited August 15, 2016 by NativeKiller

[TheGodofWiFi]

10 hours ago, Eminem2420 said:

I don't care what a youtuber says. And just because you haven't seen people play Hydroid doesn't mean there are not good players. I have seen people able to do very well with him.

Well that's your experience. Obviously some people play him but from what I've seen, nobody wants to. Put a Hydroid next to a Chroma and who do you think people will go for.

[MegpoidBeetle]

54 minutes ago, LorianTheElderPrince said:

Well that's your experience. Obviously some people play him but from what I've seen, nobody wants to. Put a Hydroid next to a Chroma and who do you think people will go for.

There's like 2 millions players in the game, how sure are you that all of them shares the same mindset as you do?

Wouldn't exactly say that nobody wants to play Hydroid, but more of some players either have better options or different playstyles. I can put a Hydroid next to Chroma but I'll still see players going for Hydroid because they prefers his moveset. Besides, Chroma is a Mighty Glacier/Lightning Bruiser and Hydroid's a Master of None, can't really compare them can you now?

[TheGodofWiFi]

3 minutes ago, GiraffaYandereBeetle said:

There's like 2 millions players in the game, how sure are you that all of them shares the same mindset as you do?

Wouldn't exactly say that nobody wants to play Hydroid, but more of some players either have better options or different playstyles. I can put a Hydroid next to Chroma but I'll still see players going for Hydroid because they prefers his moveset. Besides, Chroma is a Mighty Glacier/Lightning Bruiser and Hydroid's a Master of None, can't really compare them can you now?

I'm not saying that everyone hates Hydroid. I'm sure there are people who like playing him. 

Its just a universal fact that he isn't a very good frame in terms of usefulness. I mean he would never be as useful to a squad as a Loki. The same way Oberon could never be as useful as Trinity in squad play.

As a solo frame, he would probably hold up. But then again you have Ash, Excalibur, Inaros, Chroma, Mesa etc.

[Madame_Werewolf]

Lol there's a Oberon discussion every week XD and I always enjoy them since Oberon is one of my favorite frames.

The small things he can do are quite nice. The only thing I would personally change are his stats, just make him a little tankier since he can't truly kill anything at high levels. 

And a better passive would help too. It's a pain when you need to kill enemies fast.

Edited August 15, 2016 by wolfsongcry
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[MegpoidBeetle]

1 hour ago, LorianTheElderPrince said:

Well that's your experience. Obviously some people play him but from what I've seen, nobody wants to. Put a Hydroid next to a Chroma and who do you think people will go for.

Oberon can't heal as good as Trinity does yes, but take note Obe can damage, buff via Smite Infusion, status removal, knockdown immunity and CC in a way Trinity can't. Just my two cents on Oberon vs Trinity.

Yes, other frames are better, but again he can be versatile too. All it takes is the right player who wishes to explore and bring the best out of him, of course that doesn't mean there ain't any room for improvements for him.