The best allrounder sentinel

[Fallen_Echo]

Since the latest update i can now have vacuum on any sentinel i choose, so my questions is:

Which one of the sentinels are currently the best for general pruposes?

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13 minutes ago, Fallen_Echo said:

Since the latest update i can now have vacuum on any sentinel i choose, so my questions is:

Which one of the sentinels are currently the best for general pruposes?

 

I would say Wyrm, because his knockdown CC is nice, and CC is always great. I personally use Helios with the Augment from Simaris because the damage multiplier I prefer high damage precision weapons. 

[AandOE]

Carrier has the best stats for survivability, but Helios is great now for both Vacuum and scanning. They replaced Carrier's vacuum with an ammo mutation precept, if you use ammo-eating guns, so it might still be what you want to use, after scanning everything with Helios. (up to you. I mean, Shade's invis is nice, and Diriga's sniper I love, but... kavats!) :3

[Liljeman]

Djinn is very nice and Shade is underestimated in missions where there's no stealth, I use Wyrm(prime) though, reason? Look inside the parentheses, I'm much for fasion frame aswell as fasion sentinel. ;)

[Xzorn]

Thankfully because of the change there's only small differences between Sentinels.

The overall best in terms of dealing with scaling and endless missions is still Carrier due to it's eHP.

However outside of lvl 120+ content the differences aren't that big of a deal. I've been using Helios past 2 days for free scans. The mini sonar is cool though a bit small IMO.

It terms of CC Djinn has some value using a 24m CC but unfortunately it has a 30s cooldown which makes it very unreliable.

In terms of reliable CC, Blast / Electric Sweeper is still the most dependable IMO which again means you're choice in Sentinel isn't a big deal.

[pauli133]

Carrier Prime is still head and shoulders above the rest. Toughness is a huge factor - a dead sentinel is worthless.

Name	Max Health	Max Shields	Max Armor	Nominal Max Effective Health	Max Range	Polarities
Carrier Prime	1280	375	315	2624	10
Shade, Prisma	1120	375	157.5	1708	30
Diriga	1120	188	105	1512	70
Shade	1120	188	105	1512	30
Helios	640	375	105	864	10
Carrier	640	375	105	864	10
Djinn	640	375	105	864	60
Dethcube	640	375	105	864	30
Wyrm	640	375	105	864	30
Wyrm Prime	320	1125	315	656	30

Edited October 8, 2016 by pauli133
adding table

[Xzorn]

27 minutes ago, pauli133 said:

Carrier Prime is still head and shoulders above the rest. Toughness is a huge factor - a dead sentinel is worthless.

Name	Max Health	Max Shields	Max Armor	Nominal Max Effective Health	Max Range	Polarities
Carrier Prime	1280	375	315	2624	10
Shade, Prisma	1120	375	157.5	1708	30
Diriga	1120	188	105	1512	70
Shade	1120	188	105	1512	30
Helios	640	375	105	864	10
Carrier	640	375	105	864	10
Djinn	640	375	105	864	60
Dethcube	640	375	105	864	30
Wyrm	640	375	105	864	30
Wyrm Prime	320	1125	315	656	30

 

Where is this from? Cuz I didn't check all of them but Carrier Prime seems to be wrong.

DR = 315 / (315 + 300) =  0.4878 = 48.78%

eHP = 1280 / ( .1 -  .4878  ) = 2,499

2,499.+ 375  =  2,874 eHP

 

[pauli133]

1 hour ago, Xzorn said:

 

Where is this from? Cuz I didn't check all of them but Carrier Prime seems to be wrong.

DR = 315 / (315 + 300) =  0.4878 = 48.78%

eHP = 1280 / ( .1 -  .4878  ) = 2,499

2,499.+ 375  =  2,874 eHP

 

You've flipped some terms, I think. 315/(315+300)=0.5121951219512195

1280/(1-.5122)=2624

(the table is from the wiki, where I added it yesterday. The calculations are from me)

Edited October 8, 2016 by pauli133

[Xzorn]

15 minutes ago, pauli133 said:

You've flipped some terms, I think. 315/(315+300)=0.5121951219512195

1280/(1-.5122)=2624

(the table is from the wiki, where I added it yesterday. The calculations are from me)

Oh woops, I did 300 / 615 derp.

Still though you didn't add shields.+ 375 = 2,999

I guess it could be redundant since you listed shields but it's technically the eHP.

I'm just used to adding shields, no biggy.

Edited October 8, 2016 by Xzorn

[pauli133]

That's a fair way to look at it. Normally, I see EHP listed without shields. I suppose an EHP+shields column could be added (plenty of room).

[pauli133]

2 hours ago, Xzorn said:

Oh woops, I did 300 / 615 derp.

Still though you didn't add shields.+ 375 = 2,999

I guess it could be redundant since you listed shields but it's technically the eHP.

I'm just used to adding shields, no biggy.

Just FYI, I added a column:

Name	Max Health	Max Shields	Max Armor	Nominal Max EHP	EHP + Shields	Max Range	Polarities
Wyrm	640	375	105	864	1239	30
Helios	640	375	105	864	1239	10
Djinn	640	375	105	864	1239	60
Dethcube	640	375	105	864	1239	30
Carrier	640	375	105	864	1239	10
Diriga	1120	188	105	1512	1700	70
Shade	1120	188	105	1512	1700	30
Wyrm Prime	320	1125	315	656	1781	30
Shade, Prisma	1120	375	157.5	1708	2083	30
Carrier Prime	1280	375	315	2624	2999	10

[Xzorn]

31 minutes ago, pauli133 said:

Just FYI, I added a column:

Name	Max Health	Max Shields	Max Armor	Nominal Max EHP	EHP + Shields	Max Range	Polarities
Wyrm	640	375	105	864	1239	30
Helios	640	375	105	864	1239	10
Djinn	640	375	105	864	1239	60
Dethcube	640	375	105	864	1239	30
Carrier	640	375	105	864	1239	10
Diriga	1120	188	105	1512	1700	70
Shade	1120	188	105	1512	1700	30
Wyrm Prime	320	1125	315	656	1781	30
Shade, Prisma	1120	375	157.5	1708	2083	30
Carrier Prime	1280	375	315	2624	2999	10

Looks good,  I never noticed how standardized the old Sentinels were/

.....and then of course it just goes all over the place.

[ashrah]

carrier is best ..rest sentinels need buff... hp...

[(PSN)Onder6099]

12 hours ago, Xzorn said:

 

Where is this from? Cuz I didn't check all of them but Carrier Prime seems to be wrong.

DR = 315 / (315 + 300) =  0.4878 = 48.78%

eHP = 1280 / ( .1 -  .4878  ) = 2,499

2,499.+ 375  =  2,874 eHP

 

Max range is for Ability or Weapon? If for weapon is Reach/Primed for Helios counted? Not sure about, if they work, Sinister reach on Wyrm and Terminal velocity on Djinn, thx.

Edited October 9, 2016 by (PS4)Onder6099

[pauli133]

4 hours ago, (PS4)Onder6099 said:

Max range is for Ability or Weapon? If for weapon is Reach/Primed for Helios counted? Not sure about, if they work, Sinister reach on Wyrm and Terminal velocity on Djinn, thx.

The Range column refers to the range of that sentinel's targeting precept. Weapon zoom mods (Eagle Eye, Hawk Eye) will extend this.