daveythedumb Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Change my mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misgenesis Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Defy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancelot185 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Misgenesis said: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Defy +1 wukong doesn't need void shenanigans. just hit 2 and afk in front of lvl 3000's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Mozzy_ Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Nah I agree, I mean he can literally become invincible. Although it's not as stylish as becoming an invincible cloud or puddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaeacus Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) I think we are muddying the definition of what a "Tank" is. Evading all damage =/= Tank. By that rationale, Ash can be considered a Tank with his Invisibility. Also, without Taunt mechanics, you can't really use the terminology of "Tank". Edited August 7, 2018 by AlMcFly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannen Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Being unhittable is not tanky, it's an avoidance mechanic. Being tanky means he can take hits and shrug them off or keep going against odds that may kill more fragile frames. This debate has been tried before and shut down before, because if you slip out of the void for just a moment and take one significant hit you go splat. By this logic my Ivara is the tankiest frame in the game because I can perma-Prowl and thus never get hit so I'm the best tank ever right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)BowlofTofu Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Inaros sighs very very deeply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrizzly Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) In a general gaming definition, tanking is about drawing aggro and being able to take hits for either for themselves or for their teammates who won't be able to survive them. Limbo has the lifespan of the fly without protection and just avoiding the hits by hiding from them doesn't define him as a tank. He does nothing a tank can do. I don't consider frames like Limbo or Wukong as tanks, and trying to conflate them as such as just a bad idea, in my opinion. Edited August 7, 2018 by PUR3K1LL3R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarmongerExtraordinare Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 mind easily changeable "tanking" means absorbing actual damage and not dying while limbo doesnt absorb jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Mozzy_ Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) Yeah you're right, this is actually a tank. By the talented MuscleVictor Edited August 7, 2018 by _Mozzy_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, AlMcFly said: Also, without Taunt mechanics, you can't really use the terminology of "Tank". Wukong can have Guardian Derision for free on his Unique weapon. I know it's only within 15m, but it fits the criteria. Wukong best tank confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrizzly Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, DeMonkey said: Wukong can have Guardian Derision for free on his Unique weapon. I know it's only within 15m, but it fits the criteria. Wukong best tank confirmed. BLASPHAMY! #RhinoMasterRace /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveythedumb Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, PUR3K1LL3R said: In a general gaming definition, tanking is about drawing aggro and being able to take hits for either for themselves or for their teammates who won't be able to survive them. Limbo has the lifespan of the fly without protection and just avoiding the hits by hiding from them doesn't define him as a tank. He does nothing a tank can do. I don't consider frames like Limbo or Wukong as tanks, and trying to conflate them as such as just a bad idea, in my opinion. Tanking is drawing aggro, yes So walk into a group of enemies, hit rift and watch your team slaughter them gg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angias Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) Nyx pre-nerf win by a long marge. Nevermind. Edited August 7, 2018 by angias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umquaptovis Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Evasion / dexterity tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrizzly Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, daveythedumb said: Tanking is drawing aggro, yes So walk into a group of enemies, hit rift and watch your team slaughter them gg You're only looking at one side of the coin. Others will draw aggro with their presence as they approach anyway, limbo can't keep aggro and doesn't have abilities to do so. Edited August 7, 2018 by PUR3K1LL3R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, PUR3K1LL3R said: BLASPHAMY! #RhinoMasterRace /s Someone call 999, someone's clearly gotten heatstroke and had their brain addled. I mean, you claim you're being sarcastic, but deep down you know you mean it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveythedumb Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, PUR3K1LL3R said: You're only looking at one side of the coin. Others will draw aggro with their presence as they approach anyway, limbo can't keep aggro. (Not many frames can tbh) Enemies in combat won't switch target if another person just walks up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrizzly Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, DeMonkey said: Someone call 999, someone's clearly gotten heatstroke and had their brain addled. I mean, you claim you're being sarcastic, but deep down you know you mean it. You're right... I do mean it! #RhinoMasterRace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, daveythedumb said: Enemies in combat won't switch target if another person just walks up Which is exactly why Limbo is a bad tank. If a teammate is being attacked then walking up to them with Limbo will do nothing. If an objective is under fire the same happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angias Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) il y a 9 minutes, daveythedumb a dit : Tanking is drawing aggro, yes So walk into a group of enemies, hit rift and watch your team slaughter them gg What if they are in the rift. Unless you say fighting on the same ground is like bieng proc by slash. Edited August 7, 2018 by angias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrizzly Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, DeMonkey said: Which is exactly why Limbo is a caster. If a teammate is being attacked then walking up to them with Limbo will do nothing. If an objective is under fire the same happens. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Tactless_Ninja Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 32 minutes ago, daveythedumb said: Change my mind *gets hit by Kuva Fortress flamethrower* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveythedumb Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, DeMonkey said: Which is exactly why Limbo is a bad tank. If a teammate is being attacked then walking up to them with Limbo will do nothing. If an objective is under fire the same happens. On the other side of the coin, if limbo is the one being attacked then the friendlies walking up won't do anything. If an objective is under fire... cataclysm+stasis. lul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angias Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 il y a 1 minute, daveythedumb a dit : cataclysm+stasis. lul We are talking about tanking. Not cc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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