(PSN)JaysInc_ Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 As much as I would like to proclaim that I'm a tech-savvy individual, I'm not. The only thing I'm proficient at is knowing that having high RAM is good and managing to make every single computer I use for a long, extended time slow down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krc473 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, (PS4)JaysInc_ said: The only thing I'm proficient at is knowing that having high RAM is good and managing to make every single computer I use for a long, extended time slow down. Having high RAM is not inherently good. Just 16 GB is fine, you don't need 64 GB. I would say that 8 GB is also fine. These are not high numbers. Are you planning to build a PC? What is the purpose of it: do you want it for gaming or office work? It matters because a high end GPU is much more useful for gaming than office work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)JaysInc_ Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, krc473 said: Having high RAM is not inherently good. Just 16 GB is fine, you don't need 64 GB. I would say that 8 GB is also fine. These are not high numbers. Are you planning to build a PC? What is the purpose of it: do you want it for gaming or office work? It matters because a high end GPU is much more useful for gaming than office work. Gaming, but its gonna be for the far off future, I just want to have prior knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krc473 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, (PS4)JaysInc_ said: Gaming, but its gonna be for the far off future, I just want to have prior knowledge Here is a link that might help you. It explains how to build a PC. This is done fairly well. wikihow I suggest you have a look and come back with questions/concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3M1G0RG0N Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 My computer knowledge started to grow after placing a GTX 960 in a literal office computer back in 2015. Since then I have learned more by researching parts, reading articles, watching videos and comparing products as well as seeing other peoples' builds and what they use them for. I'd advise that you do the same. krc is correct about RAM. I am afraid of giving you incorrect information so I will leave that to others and give you some links to information that I used when buying parts for the PC I was planning to build (but ultimately didn't, another reason I refrain from giving too much of my own information). Guide to buying Graphics Cards (GPUs) - https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-buying-guide,5844.html An aside, I currently have a Nvidia GTX 1060, as do some of my friends. It plays Warframe wonderfully on any settings. The GTX 960 I had before also worked well but choked on Hydrolyst battle and when anybody brought an Amprex into ESO. Selecting a CPU - https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-buying-guide,5643.html The CPU you buy must be compatible with your motherboard, make sure it is first. Make sure you look online for good CPU and GPU combos, so as to avoid... (see below) Bottlenecking - https://www.wepc.com/tips/cpu-gpu-bottleneck/ This is information I didn't know at first. It told me that you can't always just put a great GPU into any computer with any old CPU and expect it to work well - such as putting a 960 in an old office computer 😁 All about RAM - https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/quick-dirty-guide-ram-need-know/ Not much to say about this. I have 16gb RAM but I haven't noticed any positive changes from my old computer, which has 12gb. Hard drives - https://www.techradar.com/news/ssd-vs-hdd-which-is-best-for-your-needs Two kinds, traditional hard disk ones are more finicky, slow, and more likely to get damaged but are cheaper and hold more. SSDs last a long time, don't get damaged as quickly, and run things quickly but are expensive and have less room. Installing Windows - https://www.howtogeek.com/197559/how-to-install-windows-10-on-your-pc/ Can't help too much with this as I haven't done a clean install of Windows before. Buying a power supply (PSU) - https://www.wikihow.com/Buy-a-Power-Supply Try matching the plugs from a power supply on another computer to guide you in plugging the PSU into the motherboard of your new computer - this is what I did when I replaced mine. Do not skimp on this part - if it fails it can ruin your entire system. Buying a motherboard - https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/motherboard-buying-guide,5682.html This is the "highway" that all the signals your computer sends to each component travels through. Finding a monitor - https://www.howtogeek.com/77194/hardware-upgrade-the-htg-guide-to-picking-the-right-pc-monitor/ Note your monitor's refresh rate - this should match your FPS limit. My monitor is really cruddy and has a refresh rate of 60hz - this means I limit my frame rate to 60 fps to avoid screen tearing. Picking a PC case - https://www.techspot.com/guides/1834-choosing-the-right-pc-case/ Pick a case that fits your components. My old computer did not fit the first GPU I bought for it and I had to get a smaller one that fit. Make sure it has fans in the front that are not obstructed. DO NOT be distracted by fancy lights and big fans! Check reviews and look for tests of the case's airflow. Keeping your PC cool - https://appuals.com/positive-airflow-in-a-pc-how-to-achieve-it/ Keeping your hardware cool is integral to making sure they work for a long time. Heat kills hardware. Ensure proper airflow by selecting a good case, and clean your PC's guts of dust using canned air regularly. Guide to PC fans and cooling - Air cooling and Liquid cooling - I am an extremely paranoid person and worry about coolant leaks with liquid cooling, therefore I choose to air cool my PC using fans. Coolant leaks are a thing that can happen but with quality parts there is a low chance of that happening. Liquid cooling is generally more effective at keeping your PC cool. Considering my old old computer lasted 10 years on air cooling, and my old one is 6 years old with the same (no hardware failure on either), you might not feel a need for liquid cooling unless you are noticing your components are running especially hot. You can check by... (see below) Monitoring your temps - https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner I needed to install Afterburner to start the fans on my GTX 960 as well as monitor temperatures. Now I use it to regulate my GPU's fan speed to keep its temperature low. This program is a must-have for controlling fan speed of your GPU, and built-in RTSS will limit your frame rate to avoid overheating. I limit mine at 60 but you can do 120 or higher if your monitor's refresh rate supports it. Speedfan - Good for monitoring CPU temp and changing fan speed How hot can it get? - https://www.wepc.com/tips/optimal-cpu-gpu-temperature-gaming/ Turn up fan speed or check if your fans need to be cleaned if things are running too hot. What is Overclocking/OC'ing? - https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-overclocking-832454 You may hear this or see it as OC. This is a way of pushing your hardware past its limits in order to eke out additional performance. I do not overclock as I don't have a need to and as mentioned before, I am paranoid that I will destroy my hardware. Not all parts are capable of being overclocked, so keep that in mind when buying. Overclocking may also void the warranty on the part you do it on. PC Building mistakes - https://techguided.com/pc-building-mistakes/ Using an anti-static wrist strap - https://www.wepc.com/how-to/properly-use-anti-static-wrist-strap/ Get yourself one of these, they are not expensive - mine was $5 and is a pretty blue! It ensures you don't discharge static and ruin your hardware. That's all I've got! Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DatDarkOne Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 10 hours ago, D3M1G0RG0N said: All about RAM - https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/quick-dirty-guide-ram-need-know/ Not much to say about this. I have 16gb RAM but I haven't noticed any positive changes from my old computer, which has 12gb. To get the most out of higher ram amounts you have to tweak the Windows Pagefile cache settings. This is fairly easy to do and I can post instructions later if anyone wants to know how. What this does is change how Windows (and CPU, hard drive, and ram usage) is handled when programs start heavily using system memory. If set correctly for you ram amount and personal usage needs, then the system will utilize the actual ram more instead of writing to the hard drive pagefile. Writing to the pagefile is much slower than using the ram. Having multiple Hard drives with OS on one and programs/pagefile on the other will also speed up the overall system. This one is mostly to avoid bottlenecks from reading/writing on the same drive. 6 hours ago, MagPrime said: Following for knowledge. Hehe, you know the you already have access to my data. 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatDarkOne Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, D3M1G0RG0N said: I am an extremely paranoid person and worry about coolant leaks with liquid cooling, therefore I choose to air cool my PC using fans. This is the very reason I don't use liquid cooling myself. All-in-one liquid coolers have a higher tendency to leak(fail) more so than custom loops. Only custom loops can get expensive really quick if you don't know how to shop for parts. That said, it generally better overall to completely avoid liquid cooling until you get very experienced in building PC's. 😀 Edited June 30, 2019 by DatDarkOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3M1G0RG0N Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) I actually just found this article about monitor refresh rate and fps capping. I have always been uncertain about this subject. I also read opinions on other forums and it seems that you can vary your fps per game without screen tearing, even higher than your refresh rate. This is consistent with my experience before I started capping my fps - a few games tore until I enabled VSync or set fps to 60, but others were fine. I'd suggest now that you experiment to find what works and feels best for you. https://www.techspot.com/article/1668-how-many-fps-do-you-need/ Edited July 1, 2019 by D3M1G0RG0N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticEdge Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 If you don't want to read all the $##t instruction papers because your looking for shortcut basically no there isn't one but if you want learn how install chips and stuff better use youtube for that. Also careful with your motherboard sometime the motherboard sometime is a b###!h about it for the motherboard may play the most major important role it doesn't mean she need to get replaced here and there once a while. So its better start with what you know about your computer and base on and how to improve it afterwards plus make sure you don't screw up doing all these stuff or other wise your computer will do funky $##! like the blue screen of death or error screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlusteredFerret Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) On 2019-06-30 at 5:00 AM, (PS4)JaysInc_ said: As much as I would like to proclaim that I'm a tech-savvy individual, I'm not. The only thing I'm proficient at is knowing that having high RAM is good and managing to make every single computer I use for a long, extended time slow down. First off, I would say, if you don't know what you're doing, invest some time in finding out how to build a PC. Watch some YouTube videos, read some articles...whatever. There's a fair bit of wiring involved and you can easily send a lot of money up in smoke if you get it wrong. The various components are pretty easy to assemble, as they tend to only fit in the right sockets. From my experience (been building my own computers for around 15 years), a good case is an important starting point. Its worth making sure its got enough room for all your components and good cooling (or at least space for extra fans). If you can stretch to one with "tool-less" mounting for stuff like the hard drive etc. that will make things easier. A decent motherboard is also a must. Going cheap will limit your upgrade options down the line and can throttle your RAM performance (check the maximum RAM speed it can handle). Also check what CPU its compatible with. Should have a socket for an Intel i5 or an AMD FX chip (or an i7 / Ryzen if you can stretch to that). Get the fastest RAM your motherboard can handle. Speed is at least as important as the amount of GB, in terms of performance. This should be in the mobo specs. As has been said 8GB is quite adequate for most things. 16GB is a sensible maximum...any more is just showing off really. HDDs - well even 1 Terabyte ones are pretty cheap now. Anything from Seagate or Western Digital should be pretty much bomb proof. Solid State Drives (essentially really big flash drives) are a lot more expensive, but worth considering as they speed up the boot time and load software much faster. GPU - well that comes down to personal choice whether you go GeForce or Radeon. Either way, its worth spending a fair bit on this. I would say 4GB is the minimum. PSU (power supply) - again don't go cheap on this. I like Corsair myself, but there are other good brands. 500W is probably the minimum you can get away with. I would recommend 600W just to make sure. This is one of the cheaper components, so pay for a decent branded one. Would also say its worth investing in a CPU cooler unit. Your CPU will come with a stock one, but they generally don't work too well under high loads. A high performance cooler unit is a lot bigger than a stock one and can be a bit fiddly to fit, but worth it. They're also not all that expensive. Hope this helps you get started. Edited July 1, 2019 by FlusteredFerret 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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