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Archon Continuity - Toxic Lash - Bug


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Archon Continuity states that abilities proccing Toxin Status will also apply a Corrosive Status

This isn't working on Saryn with Toxic Lash

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Current Behavior:  Archon Continuity has no effect on Toxic Lash other than the duration bonus

Expected Behavior: Toxic Lash should apply a Corrosive Proc when it applies a Toxin Proc

Repro: Use Toxic Lash while Archon Continuity is active

Additional Info: One hundred percent reproducible

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Hello Jedib1! This is not a bug, Archon Continuity states "Abilities that inflict a Toxin status effect will also apply a Corrosive status effect."

Toxic Lash adds Toxin Damage to your weapons, you are not dealing toxin damage with your abilities but your weapons.

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19 hours ago, [DE]Saske said:

Hello Jedib1! This is not a bug, Archon Continuity states "Abilities that inflict a Toxin status effect will also apply a Corrosive status effect."

Toxic Lash adds Toxin Damage to your weapons, you are not dealing toxin damage with your abilities but your weapons.

Thaaaaaat doesn't sound right. Toxic Lash adds toxin damage to your weapons, sure, but it also forces toxin status effects on every hit, regardless of your weapon's status chance, a behaviour that cannot be attributed to as anything less than the ability itself forcing the status effect.

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20 hours ago, [DE]Saske said:

Hello Jedib1! This is not a bug, Archon Continuity states "Abilities that inflict a Toxin status effect will also apply a Corrosive status effect."

Toxic Lash adds Toxin Damage to your weapons, you are not dealing toxin damage with your abilities but your weapons.

Does Contagion Cloud work with the mod though? I have yet to obtain it, so can anyone confirm, please?

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On 2022-09-16 at 2:23 AM, Ardhanarishvara said:

Thaaaaaat doesn't sound right. Toxic Lash adds toxin damage to your weapons, sure, but it also forces toxin status effects on every hit, regardless of your weapon's status chance, a behaviour that cannot be attributed to as anything less than the ability itself forcing the status effect.

Keep pressing Toxic Las instead of LMB or melee. See if that will hurt enemy xd

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On 2022-09-15 at 9:23 PM, Ardhanarishvara said:

Thaaaaaat doesn't sound right. Toxic Lash adds toxin damage to your weapons, sure, but it also forces toxin status effects on every hit, regardless of your weapon's status chance, a behaviour that cannot be attributed to as anything less than the ability itself forcing the status effect.

Mod's intended usage on Saryn can be boiled down to "Spam MOLT"

I'll be in the corner in case you need somebody to cry along with.

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On 2022-09-14 at 3:36 PM, [DE]Saske said:

Hello Jedib1! This is not a bug, Archon Continuity states "Abilities that inflict a Toxin status effect will also apply a Corrosive status effect."

Toxic Lash adds Toxin Damage to your weapons, you are not dealing toxin damage with your abilities but your weapons.

Archon Continuity have a picture of Saryn casting Miasma for the mod card.

Miasma doesn't inflict toxin damage so we move on the next ability that does which is Toxic Lash. 

While yes true it adds toxin damage to your weapons it is a special use case since it is just base toxin, it isn't modded or combining with the weapon so the toxin damage that gets applied still comes from the ability.  The 100% to apply status chance is also from the ability and not based on the weapon, you are merely using the weapon as a vessel to deliver the toxin damage yet all of its effects come from the ability and not from the weapon at all.

Is this just going to be another "too powerful to leave in so we removed it" situation a la scattered justice and kuva hek? Toxic Lash is a pretty unique ability in this way and one of reasons why she is a good frame for profit taker so it is strange to remove it for just this interaction. 

So I am confused as to why show Saryn on the picture? I think you can get it through some obscure way via molt explosion or weird helminth setup but like she is literally the poster child for the mod so shouldn't the most obvious synergy should have at least been considered?

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On 2022-09-14 at 3:36 PM, [DE]Saske said:

Hello Jedib1! This is not a bug, Archon Continuity states "Abilities that inflict a Toxin status effect will also apply a Corrosive status effect."

Toxic Lash adds Toxin Damage to your weapons, you are not dealing toxin damage with your abilities but your weapons.

Question: How is Toxic Lash even programmed? Toxic Lash is a pretty unique ability out there with its effect it has along with its interactions with various other elements of the game.

And with the Archon mods even working with residual arcanes makes me think it is very like that the toxic lash / contagion cloud interaction was specifically removed a la kuva hek and scattered justice interaction or just excluding it to avoid all of those off-hand synergies that would be able to break it or just not having to deal with the hassle it has. 

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On 2022-09-14 at 3:36 PM, [DE]Saske said:

Hello Jedib1! This is not a bug, Archon Continuity states "Abilities that inflict a Toxin status effect will also apply a Corrosive status effect."

Toxic Lash adds Toxin Damage to your weapons, you are not dealing toxin damage with your abilities but your weapons.

Which is funny because toxic lash damage is reduced by the aura ancient disruptors give, which only effects ability damage.
Why is saryn on the card art for the mod if she isn't intended to benefit from it?
@[DE]Saske

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On 2022-09-14 at 6:36 PM, [DE]Saske said:

Hello Jedib1! This is not a bug, Archon Continuity states "Abilities that inflict a Toxin status effect will also apply a Corrosive status effect."

Toxic Lash adds Toxin Damage to your weapons, you are not dealing toxin damage with your abilities but your weapons.

So the devs made a mistake and didn't fix it. Because this is a mistake. this mod is utterly useless.

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On 2022-09-19 at 4:42 AM, AcidHorse said:

Mod's intended usage on Saryn can be boiled down to "Spam MOLT"

If you use Spores all enemies will have 10 corrosive procs always, this mod does absolutely nothing for Saryn, and it wouldn't even if it worked with Toxic Lash.

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